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Old 03/20/07, 06:15 PM   #16
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The keyblade chooses the strongest heart. I cannot seem to stress this enough
Then that means all the Keyblades would go to Sora and no one else. And I remember hearing that the Keyblade chooses someone with a strong heart, they never said the strongest heart.

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I'm saying that the only reason he lost his heart to darkness through self-sacrafice for another. Org. 13 probably all (except Roxas, of course) lost it through greed for power and welcoming darkness.
So what? Darkness sleeps within every heart, the point is Sora still became a Heartless.

I fail to see how all of this makes Sora's heart the strongest. Sora's heart is strong, but right now I doubt it's the strongest. This doesn't mean that it could eventually become the strongest. I'm just saying that right now there is no real proof that he has the strongest heart in all of KH.

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Old 03/20/07, 06:16 PM   #17
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Isn't it in FFVII if I remember correct Cloud was like a Sephiroth clone or something?
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Old 03/20/07, 06:17 PM   #18
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Cloud has Jenova cells in him like Seph does.

ZS, I'm going to quit the argument, I don't want to get into things like this.
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Old 03/20/07, 06:52 PM   #19
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because you lost the argument, i suppose?

Zero Sora is right, you know. And do you think Sora has a stronger heart then King Mickey? Or do you think he has a stronger heart than Riku who..well...do you even remember what he did through COM and KH2. i don't think Sora can survive something like that. He depends on luck most of the time..
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Old 03/20/07, 07:36 PM   #20
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Playcell it's stuff like that, that will start an arguement. Me an Ichi were merely stating our beliefs about Sora's heart, either one of us could be right. I think Sora's heart is strong but not the strongest, while Ichi believe Sora's heart is the strongest.

But back to being on topic. I don't believe Sephy is Cloud's Nobody purely because it clashes with the FF7 story, though I could be completely wrong, after all YuRiPa do appear as fairies in KH2, which I'm sure clashes with FF10-2's story.

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Old 03/21/07, 01:22 PM   #21
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because you lost the argument, i suppose?
Your ignorance is disturbing. I will walk you through this one more time. If you don't understand after this, then it's hopeless

The keyblade left Sora and went to Riku outside Hollow Bastion because at that point his heart was stronger.
The keyblade left Riku and went to Sora once they got into Hollow Bastion because at that point his heart was stronger.
Notice a pattern? The keyblade goes to the strongest heart. It is that simple.
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Old 03/22/07, 02:24 AM   #22
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Mmm yeah, but I wonder what woud of happen if Riku didn't take the Keyblade from Sora? He'd have a stronger heart but not the Keyblade. If the Keyblade actually went to the Riku without Riku trying to steal it, then that would prove the fact that Keyblade always went to the person with strongest heart.
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Old 03/22/07, 12:11 PM   #23
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His heart was stronger because he wanted the keyblade.
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Old 03/22/07, 12:56 PM   #24
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Sephres isn't Clouds nobody. their story is linked to the final fantasy 7 story. cloud is a clone of sephiroth. sephiroth was able to control him at one point. but he defeated him. but sephiroths genes live inside of cloud because he was inserted with them by hojo. the reason seph comes back is bcuz cloud doubts the strength of his heart, he blames himself for all the troubles thats happening. it's nothing to do with the kh story of heartlesses and nobodies. in advent children it says that cloud can one day even become sephiroth if he gives in to his strength.
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Old 03/22/07, 01:01 PM   #25
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cloud is a clone of sephiroth.
No, you later find this out to be false. Cloud existed normally, he joined Shinra in the hopes of becoming a member of SOLDIER and failed, so he was just a grunt, then went to Nibelheim with Seph and Zack and ended up killing Seph. Cloud was then taken away and experimented on using mako and Jenova Cells.
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sephiroth was able to control him at one point.
Because of the Jenova Cells.
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but sephiroths genes live inside of cloud because he was inserted with them by hojo.
More like Cloud and Seph share Jenova's genes.
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in advent children it says that cloud can one day even become sephiroth if he gives in to his strength.
When the hell do they say that?
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Old 03/22/07, 01:45 PM   #26
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on aboard the sierra whilst cloud is fightin sephres.
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Old 03/22/07, 01:53 PM   #27
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They were talking about Kadaj, dude =)
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Old 03/22/07, 04:03 PM   #28
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watch it again nd listen carefully.
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Old 03/22/07, 04:43 PM   #29
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Cloud didn't get turned into a heartless though........
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Old 03/22/07, 04:45 PM   #30
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no of course not. wot makes u think that. cloud and sephiroths story doesn't really follow the story of kh. they have their own side story, so they'll never b related to heartlesses or nobodies.
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