Who is the bodyless and souless?

[Marluxia0090]

He sports long black hair and long sideburns, and wields six lances while controlling the element of wind. There is a screenshot where Xaldin says "Once we obtain Kingdom Hearts we will become complete beings!"

xaldin says that in a screenshot....

Bodyless -
Souless -
Heartless - Heartless

Nobodies....

Tetsuya Nomura stated these new heartless as "the third enemy behind the heartless and Disney villians", so you can expect to see a lot of them I'm expecting in Kingdom Hearts 2. Now I mentioned earlier that these white creates could be "nobodies", as various publications refered to them as that.

If you recall, in Deep Dive, it said "The third force = Nobody. Who are the nobodies? They are the non-existant ones". So these white creatures are the nobodies/non-existant ones (NEOs)?

Here is another popular piece of evidence referring back to Ansem Report 13.

When the heart casts off the flesh, where does the body go?
Heart and soul are separate, and the spirit remains in the body. But can we assume that the leftover body and soul perish?
Certainly when the heart changes into a Heartless the body disappears.
However, that is only this world's story; in another world, mightn't they change forms like the Heartless and exist there?
If we take that to be the case, there must be a you other than yourself existing somewhere.
An existence neither of darkness nor of light.
An in-between existence.
Cast off by the heart, a mere shell, one who begrudges both the darkness and the light.
This mystery cannot be easily resolved.
The relationship between the heart and the flesh is a complex one.
But since we exist here, they cannot be termed as existent.
Therefore I shall call them...
"The non-existent ones."

People are made up of a body, heart and soul. If they lost their heart, they becomes a heartless, and the soul & body stay together and make a nobody/NEO. This could possibly bash the "soulless" theory people have been saying.

Souless -
Bodyless - Non existent ones (NEOs/Nobodies)
Heartless - Heartless

the souless must be the order....they obtain their souls from kingdom hearts

[Box_ghost]

No they are nobodies too. Axel referred to them as nobodies. Which is why to avoid confusion, we call the white heartless NEO's. Or vice-versa, whichever you want. But your souless theory is right on the mark. I'd investigate further on that subject if I were you.

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There probably are soulless somewhere. My guess would be with the chasers

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[krazyaznsyco]

thats a good point, but then again, how sure are u really? so what if ansem report 13 mentioned that the soul and body stay together but he wasn't sure o it himself since his expertise was on the heartless so he just assumed that the soul and body are one and the same. also, this has already been posted in a different forum.

[Sorikku]

Hm... We already know that Ansem has a body and a soul (soul, right?) in two seperate beings. His... soul being Diz and his body being Ansem >_> If your theory is correct, or proposal that there is another force (which there is we know, from Deep Dive) then that would have to be the soulless. So, who is Ansem's soulless form? I don't think we know yet... However, we would have to assume that Sora has a third being as well. We can only ponder what the would mean at the moment... unless the third force they spoke of was the order. This may actually be the case. Even though Axel referred to the order as the nobodies, the white heartless could still be nobodies with a different part of their 'being' missing. The Order are missing their bodies, obviously, the Heartless are missing their hearts, and the white heartless are missing their souls.

[Xehsin]

that new symbol.. its probably the souless or what ever.

[Americo]

Originally Posted by Sorikku

Hm... We already know that Ansem has a body and a soul (soul, right?) in two seperate beings. His... soul being Diz and his body being Ansem >_> If your theory is correct, or proposal that there is another force (which there is we know, from Deep Dive) then that would have to be the soulless. So, who is Ansem's soulless form? I don't think we know yet... However, we would have to assume that Sora has a third being as well. We can only ponder what the would mean at the moment... unless the third force they spoke of was the order. This may actually be the case. Even though Axel referred to the order as the nobodies, the white heartless could still be nobodies with a different part of their 'being' missing. The Order are missing their bodies, obviously, the Heartless are missing their hearts, and the white heartless are missing their souls.

Woah! WAY to much of that is wrong...

[spoiler]DiZ = Ansem. He is a complete being, he has lost nothing.

Ansem from KH1 is a fake, his real name is Xehanort. He lost his Soul / Shell.

Xenmas, leader of the Org, is his Shell and Soul.

The Shell and Soul make a Nobody.

A Nobody is the white heartless-like things.

The Org Members are the exact same as the Nobodies we see.

The reason the Org Members have a human form is they had strong hearts.[/spoiler]

[Xehsin]

^ That pretty much hits the nail on the head. :D

[Americo]

Pretty much. XD

[Marluxia0090]

whoa....ok...myinnerfred can you tell me the storyline of KH COM cause i dont feel like buying the game system for it then the game and if its a nessecary storyline plot to help understanding kh2 better then i could sue the info

[Marluxia0090]

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