in-between existence - Page 2

biglipsxi · 07/13/05, 04:45 AM

the body does does not go away example the org.

RikuHeroOfDark · 07/13/05, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pwn3d to the max

i think that the heart and the soul are one therefore when the heart(soul) goes to the darkness and becomes the heartless there is no need for the body so that is why the body goes away

no da heart becomes a heartless and da soul and da body becomes a nobody its in da ansem report

Keyblade-Master- · 07/13/05, 04:49 AM

Exactly but again what are they seeking?

**pwn3d** · 07/13/05, 04:49 AM

hearts duh

biglipsxi · 07/13/05, 04:51 AM

yeah i think there motives in kh2 is to find a heart

RikuHeroOfDark · 07/13/05, 04:52 AM

i think da org. want 2 re-open KH 2 get bakk their hearts

Uchiha Itachi · 07/13/05, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RikuHeroOfDark

wat da f*** are u talkin about dey r twilight from da beginnin neitha light nor dark=twilight=inbetween existence

Damn Straight! Jeez! It Was In CoM! Just admit defeat dood!

Unseen_Path · 07/13/05, 04:57 AM

From what I'm guessing ..

When one loses their heart, that "heart" becomes what's known as a heartless. The body and soul, thusly, disappear from that realm. What happens to this body?

In the case of keyblade wielders, or others who are able to open/close the keyholes, I believe they become Nobody's. Sora and Riku both lost their hearts at one point in the game, however, they were able to retrieve it .. causing an almost paradox and unbalance throughout the world. This could be why the worlds become accessible once more.

The place in between may not even be a true world. It could be some kind of .. non-world. Ansem, in his reports, states that the only reason they are called "non-existant" is only because he believes their true forms are in the worlds we know.

It's possible that when one loses their heart, their bodies and soul do join the other world (Twilight Town), but I don't deem this with warrant. I believe there are currently three "universes", as stated in another Ansem Report. The light world, the dark world, and the world in-between. Sora's world may be dark or light, most likely dark, while BHK's is light, considering Sora's has already been invaded by the heartless, whereas BHK's has not. This leaves the world between their worlds to the unknown .. where the bodies and souls go when taken by the heartless. This leaves them drawn between two worlds, the heartless from both wishing to go to one .. making them begrudge both.

This theory would also support who the two heartless on the beach, the non-existant world in my mind, are. The one could be one who is being told, "He looks just like you." could in fact be Sora, or his "shell". The paradoxal form of his body and soul after being made a heartless and coming back.

BHK, as well as others in his universe, could be just the alternate universe forms of our heroes, who with the paradoxal happenings of Sora's world, sent all three into dis-harmony, causing them to be go-able between.

Unseen_Path · 07/13/05, 05:15 AM

Oh goodness. I do believe I rambled and didn't even directly answer the question.

Twilight could mean in-between, but it doesnt have to mean it. In-between could mean a neutral which has nothing to do with light, or dark. Whereas it could also mean it has a mixture of both.

By the way it is leading to, from CoM, Riku chooses neither the road to darkness, or light .. but the road "in-between."

biglipsxi · 07/13/05, 05:17 AM

ok so a mixture of light and dark is twilight in-between is twilight

Mastermind · 07/13/05, 06:25 AM

it means twilight dude

Ulti · 07/13/05, 06:28 AM

First of all..I suggest most people in this topic to use spell check more often than never

Twilight:The diffused light from the sky during the early evening or early morning when the sun is below the horizon and its light is refracted by the earth's atmosphere.
The time of the day when the sun is just below the horizon, especially the period between sunset and dark.
Dim or diffused illumination.
A period or condition of decline following growth, glory, or success: in the twilight of his life.
A state of ambiguity or obscurity.

If anyone took the time to find out what REALLY is twilight..We would have figured this out by now...Twilight is dark to light..night to morning..Just like Dusk is light to dark..day to night..So..my theory is the non existent ones are the white creatures(the Dusk)and the Twilight beings(unknowns maybe?)

afiorillo · 07/13/05, 07:23 AM

Though what if the body and soul seperate because the heart is what keeps them together which would explain why the heart has the power of both plus another layer of power...

Sora_aroS · 07/13/05, 10:36 AM

i think what pwn3d to the max is true and the body of the heartless just desinigrate

OmniKBM · 07/13/05, 12:57 PM

yeah in-between means twilight or dusk.

07/13/05, 04:45 AM	#16
biglipsxi WhO u ThAnK u DeAliN wIt Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: florida Posts: 1,089 Rep Power: 5	Re: in-between existence the body does does not go away example the org.

07/13/05, 04:49 AM	#18
Keyblade-Master- Keyblade Wielder Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 20 Posts: 285 Rep Power: 4	Re: in-between existence Exactly but again what are they seeking?

07/13/05, 04:49 AM	#19
pwn3d peace sells Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chillin' in mid Age: 17 Posts: 6,446 Rep Power: 10	Re: in-between existence hearts duh

07/13/05, 04:51 AM	#20
biglipsxi WhO u ThAnK u DeAliN wIt Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: florida Posts: 1,089 Rep Power: 5	Re: in-between existence yeah i think there motives in kh2 is to find a heart

07/13/05, 04:52 AM	#21
RikuHeroOfDark Rebirth of Twilight Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: brooklyn Age: 17 Posts: 2,396 Rep Power: 6	Re: in-between existence i think da org. want 2 re-open KH 2 get bakk their hearts

07/13/05, 04:57 AM	#23
Unseen_Path Heartless Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Re: in-between existence From what I'm guessing .. When one loses their heart, that "heart" becomes what's known as a heartless. The body and soul, thusly, disappear from that realm. What happens to this body? In the case of keyblade wielders, or others who are able to open/close the keyholes, I believe they become Nobody's. Sora and Riku both lost their hearts at one point in the game, however, they were able to retrieve it .. causing an almost paradox and unbalance throughout the world. This could be why the worlds become accessible once more. The place in between may not even be a true world. It could be some kind of .. non-world. Ansem, in his reports, states that the only reason they are called "non-existant" is only because he believes their true forms are in the worlds we know. It's possible that when one loses their heart, their bodies and soul do join the other world (Twilight Town), but I don't deem this with warrant. I believe there are currently three "universes", as stated in another Ansem Report. The light world, the dark world, and the world in-between. Sora's world may be dark or light, most likely dark, while BHK's is light, considering Sora's has already been invaded by the heartless, whereas BHK's has not. This leaves the world between their worlds to the unknown .. where the bodies and souls go when taken by the heartless. This leaves them drawn between two worlds, the heartless from both wishing to go to one .. making them begrudge both. This theory would also support who the two heartless on the beach, the non-existant world in my mind, are. The one could be one who is being told, "He looks just like you." could in fact be Sora, or his "shell". The paradoxal form of his body and soul after being made a heartless and coming back. BHK, as well as others in his universe, could be just the alternate universe forms of our heroes, who with the paradoxal happenings of Sora's world, sent all three into dis-harmony, causing them to be go-able between.

07/13/05, 05:15 AM	#24
Unseen_Path Heartless Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Re: in-between existence Oh goodness. I do believe I rambled and didn't even directly answer the question. Twilight could mean in-between, but it doesnt have to mean it. In-between could mean a neutral which has nothing to do with light, or dark. Whereas it could also mean it has a mixture of both. By the way it is leading to, from CoM, Riku chooses neither the road to darkness, or light .. but the road "in-between."

07/13/05, 05:17 AM	#25
biglipsxi WhO u ThAnK u DeAliN wIt Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: florida Posts: 1,089 Rep Power: 5	Re: in-between existence ok so a mixture of light and dark is twilight in-between is twilight

07/13/05, 06:25 AM	#26
Mastermind Ad Hominem Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hidden in the clouds. Posts: 1,929 Rep Power: 6	Re: in-between existence it means twilight dude

07/13/05, 06:28 AM	#27
Ulti At your service Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In my castle, plotting your demise Age: 17 Posts: 4,897 Rep Power: 10	Re: in-between existence First of all..I suggest most people in this topic to use spell check more often than never Twilight:The diffused light from the sky during the early evening or early morning when the sun is below the horizon and its light is refracted by the earth's atmosphere. The time of the day when the sun is just below the horizon, especially the period between sunset and dark. Dim or diffused illumination. A period or condition of decline following growth, glory, or success: in the twilight of his life. A state of ambiguity or obscurity. If anyone took the time to find out what REALLY is twilight..We would have figured this out by now...Twilight is dark to light..night to morning..Just like Dusk is light to dark..day to night..So..my theory is the non existent ones are the white creatures(the Dusk)and the Twilight beings(unknowns maybe?)

07/13/05, 07:23 AM	#28
afiorillo Heartless Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 23 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Re: in-between existence Though what if the body and soul seperate because the heart is what keeps them together which would explain why the heart has the power of both plus another layer of power...

07/13/05, 10:36 AM	#29
Sora_aroS Warrior of Light Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Destiny Island Age: 18 Posts: 732 Rep Power: 0	Re: in-between existence i think what pwn3d to the max is true and the body of the heartless just desinigrate

07/13/05, 12:57 PM	#30
OmniKBM Organization Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Probobly doing somthing Heavy Metal related Age: 14 Posts: 434 Rep Power: 4	Re: in-between existence yeah in-between means twilight or dusk.

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