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Old November 8th, 2009, 02:03 AM   #1
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When Sora "dies" (you run out of health) in Kingdom Hearts I it shows him suspended in air with his heart leaving his body i.e. becoming a heartless I believe :P

When Sora "dies" in Kingdom Hearts II it again, shows him suspended in air. This time, without a heart. Since Sora fell into darkness willingly, his heart didn't go to darkness. So where is his heart? And I know throughout COM - End of KH2 Sora IS technically a heartless, but his heart wasn't supposed to go anywhere. So, where was it? Perhaps in Roxas? I don't know, I just reliased this when playing KHIIFM so it probably doesn't mean anything well, idk about that but it must have already been explained so....... I just don't know exactly why it's like that.
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Old November 8th, 2009, 02:08 AM   #2
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When Sora "dies" in Kingdom Hearts II it again, shows him suspended in air. This time, without a heart. Since Sora fell into darkness willingly, his heart didn't go to darkness. So where is his heart? And I know throughout COM - End of KH2 Sora IS technically a heartless, but his heart wasn't supposed to go anywhere.
It's until the beginning of KH2 when he became whole again.
His heart didn't go anywhere, he is the heart.
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So, where was it? Perhaps in Roxas? I don't know, I just reliased this when playing KHIIFM so it probably doesn't mean anything well, idk about that but it must have already been explained so....... I just don't know exactly why it's like that.
I always thought it didn't show the suspended heart because it would give away the fact that Roxas didn't have a heart, since you see him suspended in air, too. (yeah, I know the theories about Roxas having a heart, but..)
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Old November 8th, 2009, 02:43 AM   #3
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It's until the beginning of KH2 when he became whole again.
His heart didn't go anywhere, he is the heart.
I always thought it didn't show the suspended heart because it would give away the fact that Roxas didn't have a heart, since you see him suspended in air, too. (yeah, I know the theories about Roxas having a heart, but..)
Yeah, I always thought Sora became whole at the end of KH2 cause before Riku and Sora face Dragon Xemnas. Cause it shows Sora absorb Roxas. But yeah, I don't even get why it just showed Sora absorb Roxas for no real reason.
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Old November 8th, 2009, 02:57 AM   #4
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Yeah, I always thought Sora became whole at the end of KH2 cause before Riku and Sora face Dragon Xemnas.
Nope, After Roxas confronts Diz and the pod with Sora opens the two Fused. The two had to fuse back otherwise Sora wouldn't have been about to wake up.
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Cause it shows Sora absorb Roxas.
But yeah, I don't even get why it just showed Sora absorb Roxas for no real reason.
A final fusion? It's possible a part of Roxas remained awake after Sora and him fused at the start of KH2. And that action was the final sealing and joining of the two. Same with Namine and Kairi. Both the nobodies stayed awake inside their others in hopes of meeting someone again. Roxas wanted to see Namine and Namine wanted to see Sora (Or Roxas, but she seems to like Sora more than Roxas)
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A final fusion? It's possible a part of Roxas remained awake after Sora and him fused at the start of KH2. And that action was the final sealing and joining of the two. Same with Namine and Kairi. Both the nobodies stayed awake inside their others in hopes of meeting someone again. Roxas wanted to see Namine and Namine wanted to see Sora (Or Roxas, but she seems to like Sora more than Roxas)
This would make sense, since Axel's death awakened Roxas, and thus - Roxas vs Sora.
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This would make sense, since Axel's death awakened Roxas, and thus - Roxas vs Sora.
I would even go as far as to say, Roxas was never fully "alseep" inside of Sora. Like when Sora cried when he left Twilight Town. A part of Roxas deep down inside him was sadened by this event as Sora shoul;dn't have felt that emotionally attached to the Twilight gang like that so fast. Sora's "trust" in Axel, before his death, may have also been spurred on by Roxas.
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I would even go as far as to say, Roxas was never fully "alseep" inside of Sora. Like when Sora cried when he left Twilight Town. A part of Roxas deep down inside him was sadened by this event as Sora shoul;dn't have felt that emotionally attached to the Twilight gang like that so fast. Sora's "trust" in Axel, before his death, may have also been spurred on by Roxas.
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Well what if this is the case through KH2? What if Roxas is only partly asleep by fusing with Sora, but not gone yet. That's part of the reason why every Org. member refers to Sora as Roxas at the end of the game. Because they see him only as they remember his memories, or in better terms, Roxas.
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Yeah, I always thought Sora became whole at the end of KH2 cause before Riku and Sora face Dragon Xemnas. Cause it shows Sora absorb Roxas. But yeah, I don't even get why it just showed Sora absorb Roxas for no real reason.
Dramatic effect my friend. LOl

na but seriously, i am as clueles as you.
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Old November 8th, 2009, 08:57 AM   #9
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not sure but didnt it say somewhere that when a person falls into darkness they break up into 3 different beings. A heartless, A nobody, and something to do with memories or whatever those new theories are on?
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i think that if you are killed by a nobody or something non-heartless your heart is not seen when you die
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That was one of the things I noticed too. Never actually thought about it though.
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