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| In love with KOS-MOS | I don't really know... The voice could indeed be the keyblade, but like it has been pointed out, why since Riku was the true wielder originally? Hum... Also, during the 'awakening', Sora doesn't wield a Keyblade. He wields a sword... But Roxas from his side, on the same place, will wield a Keyblade... Also, during Sora's awakening, the voice always said to him "your heart is the strongest of the weapons", your heart, not the keyblade... That's kind of hard to tell... It could be the keyblade, but it becomes doubtful considering this very keyblade had to be Riku's one... It could be Ven... It would somehow implies Ven's heart is in Sora...? During Roxas's awakening, there is no voice like for Sora if my memories are good... So it could tend to go with the Ven theory or the heart theory, but in KH the heart is the person, so if Sora's heart speaks to Sora, it's... weird. There's too many hypothesis and not enough fact, I think we can just wait for that one... |
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| Ren's Owner <3 | gotegenks - That article was written by a chick, for I was the one who wrote it and I'm a chick XD;; Quote:
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But it's been said that the Keyblade is a direct function of the wielder's strength of Heart. The one with the strongest Heart will be chosen by the Keyblade. Seeing how Sora is the Keyblade Master and not just a wielder (a differentiation based by BBS) his Heart is one of the very strongest if not the strongest of all, since at least at that time he wielded the strongest Keyblade (we still don't know whether Mickey is a Master or just a wielder so I'll assume that Mickey isn't a Master at least until he got the Reversed Keyblade if not later, thus putting him in a ranking bellow Sora. Then he became the Master for the Keyblade of Darkness). Quote:
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| Gone until October Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Walking into a place called reality, leaving behind the memories of it all.
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Rep Power: 8 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Hmm...you bought an interesting theory there and all. I wonder so too. If it was Ven, that'd probably be pretty cool but I'm not sure. I always seem to think it was narrator or an omnious presence just talking to them out of thin--okay fine let's ex-out thin and just put air. XD Never mind that part but yeah, I wonder so too though I always thought it was more like an omnious presence (sp?) |
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Would appreciate a link to that scene either way since I missed it. Quote:
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So, if really the voice is a Keyblade, the voice should have changed during the game. But, it didn't. First time it should have been the keyblade Sora was destined to have, second time the KK since he got that one. But no, two time it's the same voice. Quote:
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Yen Sid also calls him "wielder" of the Keyblade, and I am thinking Yen Sid and Xigbar are more right than most others character... Quote:
No, apparently he seems rather... sure of him, sure he wonders a lot of things, but knows what he said on this I think. Quote:
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Also, the 'not him' part might just be that it's not Ven, but Sora, and while they are possibly related, are not the exact same person (wonder how he'd have reacted to Roxas). Aside from that, you're actually saying that Terra has the authority to choose the next Keyblade Master and I find that highly unlikely. The ones choosing are the Keyblades themselves, possibly the Realm those Keyblades came from (thus are Keyblades like the Way to Dawn which is affiliated with Dawn rather than Light or Darkness). Now, having watched up to the end of the scene (I was writing during, pausing every other minute when I saw something important XD) the ending actually shows he does in a way accept Sora's strength. By inwardly resembling Ven whom Terra had 'chosen', Terra is soothed and resumes kneeling by his Keyblade. It would mean he saw what he did choose inside despite Sora's appearance not matching Ven's completely. | ||||||
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The KK had to go to Riku, so it had no reason to speak to sora at the beginning. So, only solution would be to say the voice is not the keyblade. Quote:
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Also, I'll remind you the reason the KK didn't go to Riku, according to Jiminy, is that he was too deep into Darkness. Look at when he got the KK in HB and tell me what part of him wasn't Darkness Tainted that the KK suddenly said he was good enough for her again. Quote:
Aside from that the facts do show a small repeating motive to the Destatis - after Sora's Destati he received the KK. After Roxas's Destati he managed to freely summon his Keyblades. What else could the Destatis be related to? Quote:
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Points to contradict Terra getting the KK - The trailers imply Terra is Darkness-tainted in a way. If Darkness truly was the reason it didn't go to Riku, I doubt it'd have went to Ven. Also, he has the Keyblade he has in the Secret Endings for KH2 and KH2:FM+ and seems to still be "stuck" during that time mentally, so a change in Keyblades doesn't seem likely to me. | |||||
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Now, why would the KK speaks to Sora instead of Riku before? The KK had to go to Riku, so why isn't it Riku who would have heard the KK? Sora was not destined to get it, it's like if you have invite a friend to come at home, but phone to another one to ask if he'll come. Why? Better to call directly the one to who the message is destined and no reason to call the other. Same here, why would Sora need to hear the KK before it changes of wielder? Quote:
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And the KK could be Terra's Keyblade too. How? Well, in that scene he has his Keyblade, but it could be a "fake" or copy one, like those wielded by Roxas. Also there is possibility that the scene is not canon, a scene just for giving some information. Things is that, maybe the KK is Terra's Keyblade + Keychain for Riku/Sora can wield it. | |||||
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It seems to me the Keyblade had already switched owners with maybe hope for Riku, but seeing the Darkness and Heartless approaching decided it was better to "wake Sora up" before it lost him too - seeing how the KK was what kept Sora from disappearing along with Riku and ending up on Hollow Bastion. Quote:
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That would also raise the issue of how come Mickey's Blade is almost identical to the KK, almost like a Nobody of it (or vice versa seeing how the KK is silver while the other's Gold {though I like the KK design better}). It would mean there's another connection to Terra (Ven in the Darkness?) instead of those Keyblades being the "default" forms. | |||||||
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| Warrior of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a starry land, far far away...
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Rep Power: 4 ![]() | An interesting theory but I really don't know what to say. Oh wait I do. Other then, are you sure it was the keyblade really talking to Sora? |
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| Ren's Owner <3 | Nomura only knows, that's why us lesser mortals can only theorize, but so far it does seem the most logical explanation until possibly proven otherwise as we learn more about Ven and his relation to Sora. |
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What I mean is that, it is Ven and Terra who decided to who the KK would go, they knew both Sora and Riku so they are involved in why the KK ended up at Destiny Island and not to Mickey, for sample. Quote:
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I for sample doubt that the KK would look the same without Keychains. Also, the keychain are explained by Sora, Riku and Mickey's size : they couldn't possibly wield a Keyblade of Terra's size. | |||||
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![]() Mickey already had a Keyblade in BBS so I doubt he was ever an option. And if indeed both Terra and Ven chose successors, that would mean Sora and Riku were chosen at the same time. It would make sense then that Sora just had his Destati first before Riku, while Riku needed Maleficent's help at first to draw out his own powers. They awoke fully afterwards when he received the Way to Dawn, but that still means he was never meant to have Sora's Keyblade if indeed two Keyblades were handed out. Quote:
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So more than Terra's Keyblade being unfit for them, it was what he needed, the best weapon for him. | |||||
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