What is the proper role of the United States in the world?

a real ass · April 14th, 2009, 07:38 AM

Honestly, what does the world want us to do?

We do something on behalf of another country that didnt ask us to, and we get yelled at for being world police.

We support a dictator for our own interests and not the interests of other nations. People freak out and rant about us doing this.

We do nothing, and people complain we are greedy and unwilling to help.

Now i realize that people will always complain. But I think we need at least a majority consensus of wtf people think we should do. Not that that would influence our politics in America in anyway I hope, it is more just for my curiosity. Personally I think we need to just sit back and stop interfering, but this is mainly directed towards non-Americans.

Shamdeo · April 14th, 2009, 09:01 AM

There are more than seven billion other people in the world aside from our country, and you can't please everyone. The last century alone has proved that your ally at one juncture may be your enemy the next. However, any country that has a surplus of resources and has a stable post-industrial economy should invest itself in other economies and human welfare so that lesser-developed countries can graduate without something as drastic as ethnic cleansing or civil war. It hasn't always worked, but it is in the mutual interest of the world state to maintain basic human rights to set a precedent for the future.

Endgame · April 21st, 2009, 08:52 AM

Think of it this way. If you do something that one group appreciates, it will anger another group. Vice versa if you attempt to help the second group, resulting in the first group becoming angered at you.

How many innumerable groups are there in this world? Far too many. Any action is going to anger one at some stage. Even the lack of action is going to provoke certain groups.

Personally, I think America should look after itself and stop interfering in other countries unless it's requested to do so. But that's just me.

Johnny Stooge · April 21st, 2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sa'id

We do something on behalf of another country that didnt ask us to, and we get yelled at for being world police.

We support a dictator for our own interests and not the interests of other nations. People freak out and rant about us doing this.

We do nothing, and people complain we are greedy and unwilling to help.

All examples of selfishness. If you're trying to victimize America, you're doing a shit job.

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Originally Posted by Sa'id

Honestly, what does the world want us to do?

The opposite of what you've provided.

Angel · April 21st, 2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Misanthropy

Personally, I think America should look after itself and stop interfering in other countries unless it's requested to do so. But that's just me.

Post of the year.

America's foreign relations went down the fucking toilet when we became the world police.

Shamdeo · April 21st, 2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Misanthropy

Personally, I think America should look after itself and stop interfering in other countries unless it's requested to do so. But that's just me.

How To Fuck Up Your Standing In The World : Even Further!

By Misanthropy

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Grass · April 21st, 2009, 09:35 PM

Just pass on the title of World Super Power to China and let them run everyone into Armageddon.

a real ass · April 21st, 2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Misanthropy

Think of it this way. If you do something that one group appreciates, it will anger another group. Vice versa if you attempt to help the second group, resulting in the first group becoming angered at you.

How many innumerable groups are there in this world? Far too many. Any action is going to anger one at some stage. Even the lack of action is going to provoke certain groups.

Personally, I think America should look after itself and stop interfering in other countries unless it's requested to do so. But that's just me.

And I'm sure watching Europe and Asia get engulfed by World War II was nice for the first two years.

Noich · April 21st, 2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Misanthropy

Think of it this way. If you do something that one group appreciates, it will anger another group. Vice versa if you attempt to help the second group, resulting in the first group becoming angered at you.

How many innumerable groups are there in this world? Far too many. Any action is going to anger one at some stage. Even the lack of action is going to provoke certain groups.

Personally, I think America should look after itself and stop interfering in other countries unless it's requested to do so. But that's just me.

i agree with you, we shouldn't feel obligated to help all the other countries in the world. we're in far too much debt to just be helping everyone. we should take care of ourselves and if someone asks for help, we give it to them.

Shamdeo · April 22nd, 2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tight Like Amy

i agree with you, we shouldn't feel obligated to help all the other countries in the world. we're in far too much debt to just be helping everyone. we should take care of ourselves and if someone asks for help, we give it to them.

go to africa; define debt

a real ass · April 22nd, 2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Shamdeo

go to africa; define debt

Africa brought it upon themselves with their crappy native leadership, they need to be re-colonized.

Shamdeo · April 22nd, 2009, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sa'id

Africa brought it upon themselves with their crappy native leadership, they need to be re-colonized.

yeah, they brought it upon themselves and not the European imperialists that divided their nations for colonization in the first place

a real ass · April 22nd, 2009, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Shamdeo

yeah, they brought it upon themselves and not the European imperialists that divided their nations for colonization in the first place

Oh yeah, like they are much better being divided up into several thousand ethnic-based nations. Let's create a Masai and Zulu nation!

Shamdeo · April 22nd, 2009, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sa'id

Oh yeah, like they are much better being divided up into several thousand ethnic-based nations. Let's create a Masai and Zulu nation!

Why would we need to create anything?

Ulti · April 22nd, 2009, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sa'id

Oh yeah, like they are much better being divided up into several thousand ethnic-based nations. Let's create a Masai and Zulu nation!

Why not? Hundreds were killed because of European imperialism. Hundreds were enslaved. They were going fine on their own. Europeans fucked it up by treating it like cake. Everyone gets a piece. No one gave a shit about the Africans.

America needs to actual think before helping a country. We can't go in guns a blazing, thinking we know how to fix things we don't understand. We can't exactly start becoming isolationists either. Weaker countries need stronger countries to help it sometimes. The stronger countries just need to be careful when they help out. Think of it as a monster in a city. The slightest wrong movement can destroy a lot.