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Old June 29th, 2009, 08:26 AM   #16
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I guess I could agree with you on that but there's birth control pills and condoms.

It's a women's choice to remove a parasite from her stomach.'
You speak truth,however! How many would actually use them?? I can understand talking about it before hand then get those items,but most don't and just hastily go do it... The punishment is a kid... I think it's the teenagers who are doing this because most are giving into temptation. Well that's my opinion anyways...
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I would say to those people worried about overpopulation not to be worried, because one good old fashioned natural disaster will come along soon enough to fix that problem.
Lol December 21st 2012.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 08:30 AM   #18
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You speak truth,however! How many would actually use them?? I can understand talking about it before hand then get those items,but most don't and just hastily go do it... The punishment is a kid... I think it's the teenagers who are doing this because most are giving into temptation. Well that's my opinion anyways...
It's a natural temptation to want sex and have sex as a teenager and I'm pretty damn sure through my own personal experience that when are you having sex, your mind lays dormant while you give in to your animal instincts.

Women have abortions for various reasons and there is no justification to make it illegal since it has major repercussions for all women.

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I would say to those people worried about overpopulation not to be worried, because one good old fashioned natural disaster will come along soon enough to fix that problem.
More people are getting born than dying. A lot more people.

You're talking about either supervolanco or megatsunami right there.

Controlling population growth through regulation is best.

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I didn't come from one of the "good" families, but does that mean that I don't deserve to have a life? I am doing exceptionally well in school and unless something goes terribly wrong, I am going to make something out of myself. But what I've gathered from the above mentioned statement is that since I come from a so-called "Problem Family", I am a "problem" that needs to be "rooted out".
You're one of the few who managed to rise up out of your horrid condition and I commend you but this is just the minority.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 08:30 AM   #19
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Heart is in the right place, but not the head. Logically, this would be hard to control. You would basically have to make sure everyone is not fucking behind your back. It just can't be done. If anything, we could follow China and be that whole one child shit.

I agree that it is a waste to bring children into the world if the parents cannot care for them and leech from the rest of society to take care of them. But apparently people are still bitching about abortion and all. Overpopulation tastes bitter.
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Lol December 21st 2012.
Well, at least I'll have graduated high school by then
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Old June 29th, 2009, 08:33 AM   #21
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Heart is in the right place, but not the head. Logically, this would be hard to control. You would basically have to make sure everyone is not fucking behind your back. It just can't be done. If anything, we could follow China and be that whole one child shit.

I agree that it is a waste to bring children into the world if the parents cannot care for them and leech from the rest of society to take care of them. But apparently people are still bitching about abortion and all. Overpopulation tastes bitter.
To families who can handle being finanicially able to handle more than one child, they have every right for more if they choose to.

I don't know but abortion is better than allowing overpopulation to occur in the future.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 08:35 AM   #22
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Of course if you can take care of two kids, you should be allowed to have two kids. If you can't, then tie them up. You can't get any more.
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You're one of the few who managed to rise up out of your horrid condition and I commend you but this is just the minority.
Yeah, I see where you are coming from. I am a rarity in my community. It's hard to know what to do about issues such as global poverty and overpopulation, because usually the most logical solutions are the most morally challenging. Telling people they can't have kids is a hard thing to accomplish (especially since a lot of women try really hard to have kids). Plus, living in a nation that believes in the ideals of democracy, a lot of people would try to fight this if it does ever happen.
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It's a natural temptation to want sex and have sex as a teenager and I'm pretty damn sure through my own personal experience that when are you having sex, your mind lays dormant while you give in to your animal instincts.

Women have abortions for various reasons and there is no justification to make it illegal since it has major repercussions for all women.
It is natural,and you can't restrain anything natural like this by laws. We're just gonna have to hurry and build a space station to house all these extra souls...
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Old June 29th, 2009, 08:37 AM   #25
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I doubt the rest of the world gives a shit about democracy if they have nowhere to live and nothing to eat. In the case of overpopulation, no one gives two shits if you want to have a ton of kids. The Earth cannot handle this much.
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Of course if you can take care of two kids, you should be allowed to have two kids. If you can't, then tie them up. You can't get any more.
I agree with what you are saying.

Glad you understand my viewpoint.

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It is natural,and you can't restrain anything natural like this by laws. We're just gonna have to hurry and build a space station to house all these extra souls...
If there is no economic incentive to space colonization nor if it is easy, colonization will not occur.

Looks like we might have a population collapse in the Third World soon if we don't control their population growth.

I believe that no one has a right to a child since it is a responsibility and not something you can't take for granted.

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Yeah, I see where you are coming from. I am a rarity in my community. It's hard to know what to do about issues such as global poverty and overpopulation, because usually the most logical solutions are the most morally challenging. Telling people they can't have kids is a hard thing to accomplish (especially since a lot of women try really hard to have kids). Plus, living in a nation that believes in the ideals of democracy, a lot of people would try to fight this if it does ever happen.
No one has right to kids if they just want them for the heck of it. Kids are a responsibility.

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I doubt the rest of the world gives a shit about democracy if they have nowhere to live and nothing to eat. In the case of overpopulation, no one gives two shits if you want to have a ton of kids. The Earth cannot handle this much.
The third world has a poor understanding of democracy and it leads to bad things. Believe me, I'm from Ecuador and ignorance of how democracy should work has led to bad things for my country.
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I doubt the rest of the world gives a shit about democracy if they have nowhere to live and nothing to eat. In the case of overpopulation, no one gives two shits if you want to have a ton of kids. The Earth cannot handle this much.
Whoa, just breathe! Trust me, I know about having nowhere to live and nothing to eat. But I was under the impression that we were just talking about the United States. How in the hell could we enforce something like this in the entire world? Who would enforce it? The UN? Not every nation is a member of the United Nations... I just don't see this as happening.
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Vascetomies for all men!

To hell with that.
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America continues to grow. We eat up the resources of other countries. We affect the damn world, face it.

If this was an easy issue, we would lower the birth rates below death rates for a bit. When we reach an ok population level, we would raise it to match death rates so this would never happen again. Too bad life is complicated.

A space station huh? So instead of facing the problem, you want to delay it. Nice.
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No one has right to kids if they just want them for the heck of it. Kids are a responsibility.
Simple. Yet the most intelligent statement that's been said so far. I only wish certain people I knew would get that concept.


I just think, unless we get some good dictatorships around here, people are just going to continue to be coddled and told "you can do whatever you want". No one will step up and take control of the issue of overpopulation. Because the USA, for example, is too busy funneling all of its money into pointless wars than to try and fix a real problem.
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