Love

[one wing angel]

sadly people in this world don't understand the meaning of the words they speak. all the time i hear ppl saying "i love you too babe" and stuff like that but they break up one week later get with someone else and do it all over again. i don't think many people in the world know the meaning of what it is like to love someone REALLY love them. but that is just an opinion

[Akans]

So he was just infatuated. Not love, though. He liked her, but now, not so much?

Yes, I guess he was. I feel sorry for him though. He took it hard.

You know, a lot of people's feelings can come from if something has happened to them when they were younger. Parents have a strong influence on you act. You may take onto them or rebel into something entirely different. But we all know that the past effects your judgment. And that also develops more in the problem of dwindling down the great questions that are about Love. A person's past is not general.

Um... how would the past affect who you love?
If your rebelling against your parents by marrying someone they don't like, then I don't think its true love. It'll affect your judgement, yes, but it still won't be love. It'll be lust/infatuation/rebellion. Its a different emotion that creates a fake love. I highly doubt that your parents can control who you really love.

Unfortunately that's not always the case when people become infatuated. Many tend to try harder. Don't ask me why; it's just exactly what we've been discussing.

I meant that comment as a joke... but I see your point. But then again, if you try harder, could that be love instead of infatuation? You truly believe that she is the one for you, and will overcome any obstacles in your way to win her hand XD. Cliche'd probably, but I don't think someone lusting after a person would dedicate themselves for another person.

But then again, the world is full of strange stalkers, so there goes my arguement XD.

When you reject that person, are the kind? Or are they aggressive.

Obviously, an aggresive response will only push the person away even more.

Or how about those people who are together "off and on", continuously breaking, if not just to get back together and break up all over again. Going through the same process many times over. Now I'm not saying people don't have the right to do this to themselves, but I am saying that it's pretty damn stupid. And yet, all too common.

Maybe its just certain people? Some people are just hardwired so that they cannot stay dedicated to one person, and just jump around. Maybe its all in their genetic makeup - some are dedicated and know true love, others are idiots and only lust.

i don't think many people in the world know the meaning of what it is like to love someone REALLY love them

What did I say?

Horny bastard.

You should question me. I'm stubborn and don't get attatched easily, and I'm good at evaluating situations. So go ahead. Try me.

Well, I can't think of any great questions, I'm waiting for Dan to finish his exams so we can interrogate you... but here's one to get you started.

How did your relationship begin?

[Prodigy]

Um... how would the past affect who you love?
If your rebelling against your parents by marrying someone they don't like, then I don't think its true love. It'll affect your judgement, yes, but it still won't be love. It'll be lust/infatuation/rebellion. Its a different emotion that creates a fake love. I highly doubt that your parents can control who you really love.

Well the past can affect how readily you're willing to get into another relationship. How willing you are to commit. To Love. It can change the way you think, and, ultimately, it can change the way you love. Now, I'm not saying it's always this serious, the past, but people interpret their past experiences in different ways. A person may change drastically over time. And, finally, the past can effect how much a person is willing to trust, and in that sense, love again.

Don't try and fight that, especially the last part. Too many cases to fight it.

And I'm not saying that parents can control who you really love. I'm saying that many times people love for the wrong reasons. Like you said: A fake love.

I meant that comment as a joke... but I see your point. But then again, if you try harder, could that be love instead of infatuation? You truly believe that she is the one for you, and will overcome any obstacles in your way to win her hand XD. Cliche'd probably, but I don't think someone lusting after a person would dedicate themselves for another person.

Yes, but when does your "infatuation" become an obsession. And quite possibly an obsession for wrong reasons. I understand, they could be so for the right reasons, but in that condition, how unhealthy is your love? And can you let them go?

But then again, the world is full of strange stalkers, so there goes my arguement XD.

Haha, yes it is.

Obviously, an aggresive response will only push the person away even more.

Yes, but how often do you think people realize how aggressive they're being? I'm not saying people are always aggressive on purpose.. though I suppose sometimes they are. But I'm not talking about those people. I mean the ones who get carried away.

Maybe its just certain people? Some people are just hardwired so that they cannot stay dedicated to one person, and just jump around. Maybe its all in their genetic makeup - some are dedicated and know true love, others are idiots and only lust.

I think some might become hardwired, but I don't think that people are born that way. I think everyone is born on the same level. It's just how you grow up and interpret things may affect your judgment. But of course, that's my own personal input. And that of course is why we have this thread.

How did your relationship begin?

Well, she's always been in my first period. This past school year, at least. Whenever the teacher stopped teaching for the day, it'd always be the four of us or so who would talk together. I knew who she was, mostly because I was pretty good friends with her sister, but I never really met her until this year. Good-looking. Nice. Seemed quiet. I dunno, we sort of talked as the year went by. Then one day she was talking to us about possibly moving back to her home, and I asked for her number, you know, in case she ever did, so we could keep in touch. I mean, we were friends by this point. Then I lost it, the number. And she had lost mine. So I just come up to her and told her and she told me she lost mine, and when I got it again that day, we started texting. Went on through the night. I found out that I was pretty intrigued by her. I started liking on her. Well, I couldn't tell how much she liked me and I wasn't about to ruin it. I'm not one to get into relationships much, if I haven't said that already. That is unless I can actually see myself with that person. To where the relationship might actually stick around. But in any case, at one point she was asking me a question and I said I don't want this to get too sexual now, and she went "well what if I like sexual?" And I was like, oh snap. We began talking about stuff, haha, hot spots, lmao.. But I'll conclude on that topic. Next day was funny. Not awkward, just funny, between the two of us. And we kept talking, until it was almost Valentine's Day. (It was close to it when we started talking more.) And I could tell she liked me, and she asked if I had a Valentine or any one in particular. With my smooth talking I ended up getting her to say who she would have in mind, if any one. And that person was me. We ended up being Valentines and well, I asked her for an actual date in February. 23rd, just to prove my memory. ;] And I dunno. Felt right for both of us- if that's not weird to you. And somehow we're alike in just about every way, so I pretty much have to compromise shit.

But that's a quick run through. The date went fantastic. So have all of them. And we both have our family problems and well they're much enough to make just about anybody call it off. But even through all of this, we never would. If that means anything to you.

[Akans]

Everything Prodigy said.

Ah I see, what your trying to get across is that the past influences who we love, our perception of love, and how readily we commit ourselves... interesting stance.

Its actually a famous psychology arguement - Nature vs Nurture. Psychologists are constantly arguing over how much of a person's personality is determined by Nature (i.e. when they were born, genes, etc.), and how much of it is determined by Nurture (How you grew up, parents, peers, influence, etc.), and such.
I personally persist with the Nature arguement, which is why I have a hard time accepting your "past influence" idea XD.
I can present my arguement if you want, but I have to go to dinner right now, so I won't. And it'll save you a lot of reading if you don't want to read it.

But that's a quick run through. The date went fantastic. So have all of them. And we both have our family problems and well they're much enough to make just about anybody call it off. But even through all of this, we never would. If that means anything to you.

Aww that's sweet....

*Growls jealously*
XD jkin, how long have you been going out? That seems like a nice relationship. Do you have any similar interests? And what do you talk about?

Lol, I'm a freakin hypocrite, I say I don't know what to ask, but here I am shooting off questions. Idealy, we could be questioning her as well, but this is a really informal discussion, so.... no chance. Unless your gf just happens to be a KHI poster as well.

[JUSTICE]

But Prodigy, you're fifty D=

[Prodigy]

Her? A KHI poster? Haha, no, not quite. Similar interests? Well, uh, yea we do. Actually, just about everything. Turns out that's its down even to our favorite color. Favorite color, movies we watch, though of course, being male, I'm just 'slightly' more into the extremely scary shit. We both love do to Art, and yet only when we feel like it. We both have the same stance on religious faith, or, well, just faith in general. But it's not like somebody who has the same religion. See, I chose the word faith. There's a difference. Haha, just clarifying. Our 'level' of 'faith' is the same. And no, we are not at all die-hard anything on that subject, if that's what you're thinking. The same music, Uh.. i dunno. I mean pretty much everything. It's kind of scary/wierd, actually. ;P

And we talk about whatever we want to. What we're doing at the moment if it's texting or talking on the phone, though thank god she's not one of those girls who live on the phone. I would die. x_x Anyways- you know, how our parents are being asses, how we wish we could see each other when we can't, reading, drawing, whatever. Or if we're together, I mean we just have fun. You know, whatever. I don't have to try with her. And damn sh's gorgeous. That is one downfall- I have to keep my eye out for any guy trying to make a move. And not even for my sake as much as for hers. She normally doesn't like people all that much, and I'm the same. And people think that just because they see it they can have it.

..But I digress. I'll get carried away and I'd rather not. ;) Anywyas, that's to your questions just then. And to your nature/nurture thing, well, I don't rely just on the past or just nature. I'm caught somewhere inbetween, because like in every discussion I involve myself in, I look at both sides and analyze what I've seen, heard, and know.

..Once again I digess because I will get carried away.

-Haha, fifty? That's funny. Sad thing is that people actually believe it much of the time. What's worse? Apparently my voice is so deep that I sound like I actually could be.

-Also, I'm doing this on my phone, so I won't bother with quotes... My post is long enough to read anyways.

[Akans]

Her? A KHI poster? Haha, no, not quite.

Lol... I thought u had the same interests?

Turns out that's its down even to our favorite color

O.o

-Also, I'm doing this on my phone, so I won't bother with quotes... My post is long enough to read anyways.

Damn, I wish my phone could do that T T

Once again I digess because I will get carried away.

Haha, I did also. Okay, back on topic --

Yeah, I guess interests play a big part in it, you feel like you can relate to them on some level, and they seem similar to you.
But what about that old quote "opposites attract"? Its obviously possible to like someone who has (extremely) different likes than you? So are interests relevant in love? On one hand, similar interests mean you can relate and understand the other person (to a point), but if they have different interests, they seem unique and exotic to you, cuz they think differently.......

Comments? And where'd Dan run off to?

[MosesMohs]

Originally Posted by Akans

So... I've been thinking. What is Love? Scientifically, its a chemical reaction between hormones in your body that does stuff.
But that's not what I mean.
What is love? Its the same thing as consciousness, it is invisible and intangible, but is all-important in humans.

love is what brings us to live each day.
love is the downfall of us all.

[Prodigy]

Haha, I said a Not every. ;) But as far as relationships showing actual effect on your Love- real love. Or even more, a TRUE love, if that idea is actually something that exists. Now, if you're interests involve making money and working every single day so you can make more, will you be compatible with an emotional and probably loney person? It probably won't last forever. Probably not. It could, but someone's going to have to sacrifice a lot, more than just about anyone is willing to give up. But in general, I don't see how personal interests will be the only way you can be in love with someone. Now, you're going to have to like to do something together at some point, and I don't mean 'just' sex. I mean something that's fun and enjoyable to both of you to bring you together somehow. But other than that, nah. I don't believe just because you're on the other end of the spectrum that it means you can't be in love with someone.

As far as my girlfriend and I go, it's just a nice coincidence. Things about her though jusy peak my interest. She's always ready to do whatever I'm doing- like gaming or a movie, etc, look after me, haha especially if I get sick, always laughs with me about sexual innuendos, sometimes ones i don't even say or think. And that's saying something. Haha, she's all into that's what she said stuff, Lmao. Plus, she loves my body and is very sexual. Doesn't matter who you are: i you're male, and she's like that, AND wouldn't think about doing stuff like that with anyone but you- that's pretty f*uckin' awesome. ;P

But in any case, there's always something, even if it's little, whether it's fun, funny, or more suprising or intriguing about her. Haha, I sound like a loser. But, considering she feels a lot the same about me, it's pretty cool. I don't more to say at the moment. And oh, we'e been together since February 23rd of this year. About 3 months and a week.

Once again, on phone.

[Akans]

Now, if you're interests involve making money and working every single day so you can make more, will you be compatible with an emotional and probably loney person?

...Maybe not that extreme.

But actually, that case sounds extremely similar to the few hundred smitten couples in my school. They have (more or less) the same interests, like each other extremely, joke around, and just crap like that. Maybe there's a relationship? Pun not intended XD.

*runs away and thinks*

(I'm feeling stupid today, so i can't contribute a lot...)

[Prodigy]

Haha, I feel stupid ever day, so it's fine. Lmao, okay, maybe that's a bit extreme, but I gotcha. ;P

The thing that sucks though is that we hardly get to have time to just be with each other and away from parents and all that. Hell, we hardly have time just to be with each other. I guess that makes it more meaningful when actually do get to see each other? I'm not sure, but it seems logical. In any case, all I can say is that neither of us is 100% normal, though it may appear so on the outside. And damn. That just makes it fun.

[Akans]

You've just proved one of my points!!

I said that love seems sweeter when you aren't always around each other... which kind of proves the theory of why old marriages kind of seem less intense than when your a newly wed couple.

[Prodigy]

Haha, glad to help you out there. Anything else you need to investigate on?

[Akans]

Other than making my brother disappear, nope. He's being an asshole, like all little bros are.

Geez, where's the others?

[Prodigy]

They fell in the toilet. Don't expect them anytime soon.