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Old 04/08/08, 03:11 AM   #1
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As for time... it doesn't exist. So how can it get shorter. Yes, I realize humans tend to always do things by time... but we did that to ourselves. After all, didn't humans invent time?
Alright, I need to say soemthing here.

Time doesn't exist because humans invented it. We invented the wheel, did we not? Oh wait. Other civilizations most likely invented the wheel on their planets, and others, and others, and others.

And honestly, time doesn't exist in the seconds, minutes, etc. That doesn't necessarily denote time truly. Yes, a second is a second, no matter what.

But think of time like breaking up our lives into moments. What is a moment? it's not the passing of an object, for you can stop everything in the universe and a moment will continue to go on. So, what is a moment, respectively. Surely, it must be a passing of time. For, the difference between my memories of when i was an infant and now is the time put between them, or, so I don't use the word time in defining time, the moments that passed between the memory and now.

Honestly, I can't seem to understand why people assume time does not exist.
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Old 04/08/08, 10:27 AM   #2
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Why, you're just messing around with codes now aren't you boy?

What is the word "moment" to you?

It dominates your life just as much as time itself. This is precisely why it does not exist. But if it dominates my life, doesn't it exist? What is existence? What is the word, "exist"? Can't I say anything and be right, in the end?
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Old 04/08/08, 11:02 AM   #3
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What is the word "moment" to you?

It dominates your life just as much as time itself. This is precisely why it does not exist. But if it dominates my life, doesn't it exist? What is existence? What is the word, "exist"? Can't I say anything and be right, in the end?
What is time? Time is a basic component of the measuring system used to sequence events. Our lives follow time, time doesn't follow us. It is a component of measure used in the laws of physics and what is the 'motion' of everything.

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Old 04/08/08, 11:07 AM   #4
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Haha, I rep you for missing the point entirely. ; )

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You state I missed the point entirely? I’m simply making a statement based on the topic at hand?

What is a moment? It’s a portion of what is ultimately “time”. It’s a part of your sequence of events in your life, which can be revised via the use of time.

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You state I missed the point entirely? I’m simply making a statement based on the topic at hand?

What is a moment? It’s a portion of what is ultimately “time”. It’s a part of your sequence of events in your life, which can be revised via the use of time.
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Are you suggesting time travel is possible?
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Old 04/08/08, 11:40 AM   #7
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Are you suggesting time travel is possible?
I'm saying we use the value of time to look at moments and our memories. Sorry if the way I said it didn't make sense mate.

Think of moments and memories as a chapter in a novel or film, and time is basically the duration of the movie. We use the concept of time to experience these.

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Old 04/08/08, 12:28 PM   #8
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I'm saying we use the value of time to look at moments and our memories. Sorry if the way I said it didn't make sense mate.

Think of moments and memories as a chapter in a novel or film, and time is basically the duration of the movie. We use the concept of time to experience these.
Sorry bout that. I just saw you use the word "revise", and somehow that got mangled and twisted into "time travel".

I think that time does play a role in our memories. Usually, when remembering something, someone can tell you when it happened. Depending on how strong the memory is, time makes us forget somethings.
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Old 04/08/08, 01:52 PM   #9
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I'm saying we use the value of time to look at moments and our memories. Sorry if the way I said it didn't make sense mate.

Think of moments and memories as a chapter in a novel or film, and time is basically the duration of the movie. We use the concept of time to experience these.
I like that idea xD and you're right, we use time to order our lives and remember our past.


Hmm Time as a human concept doesn't exist, afterall we could have decided that a day was 14 hours long an hour was actually 300 minutes long, that a minute was 45 seconds and so on. Yet we chose those values that we do have, and that is the point, we CHOSE the numerical values of time, so we created time in that respect.

However, time has always been there, we are always moving forwards, and the past is always behind us. If there was no "time" then nothing would move, for the pure reason that movement and any function needs time to be able to happen. A moment can be so fast you barely notice it, a moment can also be much longer. We decide on what defines a moment as it happens.

Time does exist, but not under the restrictions that humans placed on it. Time exists on it's own, we just tried to give it reasoning and order.
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Old 04/08/08, 02:35 PM   #10
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The problem with determining time is that we have no frame of reference to put it to.

Scientists (and most people) experiance and determine things with their 5 senses. What sense does Time stimulate? None, yet all of them at the same time.

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Time does exist, but not under the restrictions that humans placed on it. Time exists on it's own, we just tried to give it reasoning and order.
If time exists because it exists, not because of what we think of it as, then why bother trying to refute time? We are, right now, discussing our perception of time, of the word and contextual definition of time. Not time itself.
Even if we say time does not make sense, that does not make it disappear in a flash of smoke. That'll be kinda troublesome if it does.

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Old 04/08/08, 02:43 PM   #11
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...I wasn't refuting time o_O I was saying that in my opinion our perception of time isn't neccessarily what time is, not that time doesn't exist. The whole point is is that time makes sense because we made it make sense.
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Old 04/08/08, 02:44 PM   #12
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Scientists (and most people) experiance and determine things with their 5 senses. What sense does Time stimulate? None, yet all of them at the same time.
Exactly, just because you can't smell, see, taste time, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

It's not a physical attribute, but a component within what we have established as the process of life.
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Old 04/08/08, 02:48 PM   #13
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Time isn't invented by humans, time has been there since the big bang, when all laws of nature were formed. And for determining time, te decay of a cesium-atom at 0 K is used so there is a frame of reference.

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Old 04/08/08, 02:51 PM   #14
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Time isn't invented by humans, time has been there since the big bang, when all laws of nature were formed.
Last time I checked the "Big Bang" was only a theory?
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Last time I checked the "Big Bang" was only a theory?
A theory with enough proof and the most logical theory, at least if you can't come up with a theory that has lots of evidence. There is no point in arguing about this, there is no good alternative.
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