This is probably the most insulting thing I've heard in my 21yrs of life. Are you serious? How is rape "Willing Sex". Women who get raped DON'T have the choice. They didn't choose to have intercourse with the idiot who decided to stick their d#cks up them.Originally Posted by Ragnell37
Makes me think you don't even know what the definition of rape means.
Seriously Ragnell, watch what you say.
I'll answer these three for you:Holy crap, I did not intend to start such a shitstorm. I don't want to turn this into a hate-fueled debate (or Abortion Thread 2.0), since the whole point of this thread was to try and share thoughts in a civil manner. But since people asked questions, I'll answer. And I do genuinely want to see other people's logic on this topic since it is such an intensely debated area and I'm always looking to see new viewpoints.
1) This might've not been your intention but you basically just told all the woman who got raped that they choose to make that decision? Now I'm telling you from a first-person's point of view. I was a 16 yr old girl, sleeping in my bed, not knowing wtf was going to happen. In my innocence of my youth, and my weak body. How the f/ck was I supposed to endure the strength of a 06ft, 275 lb man. I was ALONE in my house when all of the disgrace had happened. I'm not asking for a pity party, but I'm lucky enough I didn't get pregnant. And I'm glad I didn't because If that were the case. I'm sorry but Abortion would be the way to go. And that goes for all the woman out there who experience such thing. After such event a woman has more of a chance to get Depression, PSTD, Alcohol & Drug abuse and even suicide. If a woman has a hard time loving herself after that, how is she going to have the love for the child? You start to feel a great amount of disgust after that, and I can only imagine how a woman would have a kid from the result of rape, the hatred and reminder of such event when she would look at the child's eyes. A Child deserves love from two loving parents that want to bring someone into this world. I don't believe in bringing them to a world of misery.
2) My thoughts on abortion aren't based on hate. I don't hate you (specially since I don't know you) but I completely disagree on what you said. So we are sharing thoughts on a civil manner. We're just merely responding to your opinions.
3) Did you know that 1 out of every 6 women have been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime? and if they're not now, they will? No one knows when such thing is gonna happen. About 15% of woman result in having a pregnancy because of rape. I can't stress how much a child deserves love & happiness. And this is one of the reasons why I strongly support Abortion.
What if the woman lives in poverty, what if the woman is a drug addict, what if the woman just doesn't have the means to support that child? Does the child deserve to suffer because of that?
A child never deserves anything of such sort. It wasn't their fault, so they shouldn't live through misery.I do think children should pay for parent's mistakes as little as possible
Every child should be a wanted child.How do you or anyone else have the right to decide before a child is born whether it will be happy enough for it to be worth living?
Theoretically speaking they should. However, I don't think it's very common a woman all of the sudden wakes up one day "Hey! I'm going to be irresponsible today, get pregnant and abort the child because I want to!?" or even "Hey! let me go get raped today and have a child as a result because none of it was wanted!" Have abortion for a reason, not just because. It is the woman's choice to go pro choice but it's also the babies' right for a life of happiness.Do they not even get a chance?
You just answered your own question.Even if the birth parents don't want him or her, there is always adoption. And yes, I'm aware that adoption does not always result in a happy sunshine ending.
You're not killing the child if it hasn't been born yet.Still, isn't it worth not killing the child to at least try to give them a good life?
Abortion may sound like a selfish choice from the face of it. But when pregnancy that occurs in the wrong place at the wrong time can have a lifelong/ negative impact on a woman's ability to raise a family and earn a living. A child needs a loving family and a happy household.