Government Can Track us.

[Oriax]

Then they will catch the idiot crimminals. It is better than nothing.

But what about the people who are talking about a game they are going to play that involves bombs?

Plus, terrorists may have communicated by phones before and I now think it's stupid of the government to say "We are going to tap into your phones to identify you terrorists" because now they won't use phones anymore, they will use some other form of communication and the government will be back at square A again ...

I'm not sure if that made sense, hopefully y'all got my meaning ^_^;;

[Ultima Keyblade]

But what about the people who are talking about a game they are going to play that involves bombs?

Plus, terrorists may have communicated by phones before and I now think it's stupid of the government to say "We are going to tap into your phones to identify you terrorists" because now they won't use phones anymore, they will use some other form of communication and the government will be back at square A again ...

I'm not sure if that made sense, hopefully y'all got my meaning ^_^;;

so you think the government will mistake everyone who says the word bomb for a terrorist?

[Oriax]

No, I'm just saying what if they make mistakes? They will be tracking the wrong people whilst the real terrorists manage to do something.

[Ultima Keyblade]

No, I'm just saying what if they make mistakes? They will be tracking the wrong people whilst the real terrorists manage to do something.

And this would be better than if they just let terrorist do whatever the diddly they please...how?

[Oriax]

And this would be better than if they just let terrorist do whatever the diddly they please...how?

I'm not saying it is better, I'm saying that what if they make mistakes, go after the wrong people and then the terrorists manage to do something that could have easily been stopped.
I'm just thinking up scenarios that might happen. I'm not saying that it's good or bad.

I'm not on any side. I think that it's good because then they can track people, but bad because they may track the wrong people and it could be an invasion to our privacy.

[Wintertide]

And this is why I never carry my phone with me everywhere.
Only for the emergencies.

[Penance]

Eh as long as nobody catches me masturbating I don't give a fuuuuuck.

Honesty I'm sure the government has MANY more secrets. I'd rather not know them.

[αsiя]

I feel safe knowing they are tracking me

[NumberVIII]

Then they will catch the idiot crimminals. It is better than nothing.

I think you misread my post. That's what I said. >>;

And I'm pretty sure the government is going to look into anything that sounds suspicious and not just track down anyone who says the word "bomb". -.-

[Yuuki]

as long as they dont abuse it im cool with it...
but i have no cell phone so no biggie ^^

[Seraph]

the party was a bomb!
*insert anti-terrorist agency here* freeze!

[Dogenzaka]

That's okay, I can watch the government too.

[krexia]

The only reason to worry is if you're doing something illegal...

This is a terrible, terrible argument. First of all, would you be happy with the police installing CCTV in every room of your house? Is that okay, if you have nothing to hide? Is it okay for the government to videotape you having sex with your girlfriend? You're not doing anything wrong, so why does it matter if they see you?

The false premise hidden in your statement is that privacy's only purpose or benefit is to conceal wrongdoing. Infringement of privacy is an infringement of a person's rights, and the government must have just cause for such infringements.

But the real issue is that a surveillance system unfettered by the law is open to abuse by anyone who has access to it, and vulnerable to mission creep. No authority is infallible, and the government has the power to redefine what is 'wrong', making ubiquitous, unchallenged surveillance a very, very dangerous tool.

as long as they dont abuse it im cool with it...

Has there ever been a government, ever in history, anywhere in the world, that you could say you would trust one hundred percent never to abuse its authority? Governments need a certain amount of power, but there are countless examples in history of why that power should be limited only to what is absolutely necessary. I've yet to see proof that constant surveillance of the population is necessary for the continued functioning of the state.

[Random Queen]

This is a terrible, terrible argument. First of all, would you be happy with the police installing CCTV in every room of your house? Is that okay, if you have nothing to hide? Is it okay for the government to videotape you having sex with your girlfriend? You're not doing anything wrong, so why does it matter if they see you?

The false premise hidden in your statement is that privacy's only purpose or benefit is to conceal wrongdoing. Infringement of privacy is an infringement of a person's rights, and the government must have just cause for such infringements.

But the real issue is that a surveillance system unfettered by the law is open to abuse by anyone who has access to it, and vulnerable to mission creep. No authority is infallible, and the government has the power to redefine what is 'wrong', making ubiquitous, unchallenged surveillance a very, very dangerous tool.

Chill! Geez! It's just phones! It's not like they didn't do this before! And besides...if the government did that....I'd be out of the US. I'll pack up my shit and go on a plane out of here, even if I hand to smuggle myself into the plane!

Seriously, stop making a big deal out of this? Who really cares? Other then people who are about to be convicted?

[khlover7]

This has been known for many years now.