Love

[kazukifafner]

Originally Posted by acein12

Friends don't love. Since when did FRIENDS love each other?

You "can" love your date? Then your saying relationships, don't have anything to do with love?

Anyone can love anyone else, basically. I think the problem is that you are ignoring my viewpoint and just applying all that I've said to your own viewpoint.

In my opinion, love itself has nothing to do with infatuation, lust, or any other emotion you prefer to use. Love is merely the desire for the well-being of the recipient (seriously, just look at my other posts and you should be able to pick up what I'm saying).

[acein12]

Originally Posted by Rhythm of Apathy

Please, you're 14, and at this point in time the extent of your brain capacity is limited to regurgitating information you probably picked up on wikipedia. Hell you're even taking my own insults now and spitting them back at me. Only, your versions aren't so hard to figure out as they are just plain sad.

The theory isn't reliable in the slightest. I'm not just saying it to make you feel stupid, you've done enough of that to yourself already. Go read up, please, and stop embarrassing yourself.

Who honestly believes everything they see one Wikipedia? Its a user made encyclopedia, not everythings true nor reliable. Yes I am insulting you; why would I sit around and let you mock me? Besides you're only 16, there is no major change between 14 and 16.

Stop embarrssing myself, how, in the slightist bit, am I embarrassing myself. I'm discussing what I know and giving reason to why I feel that way. And you're just disagreeing without without giving any reason to feel differently, not to mention the flaming. How about you read up, and come back when you have something intelligent to say.

I love threads like this. I've been watching this one for a bit and have to say that a lot of you have some great points, and others not so much. Hell I mean the mind can go in many directions........

However, what i want to know is what's up with acein12?? You seem to be responding and trying to rip people apart, yet when Prodigy simply blew what you had wide open though subtle as it appeared, you had nothing to say back.

This is of course not a fluke, because you later responded to other posts, yet ignored his. is there some reason you just skipped over that part, or are you merely afraid of his call out, knowing that he will blow you cocky ass away if you even try to dispute him......

Rather this is a mere observation from me, but hey maybe I am wrong. Maybe you can help me figure this all out acein12.

Oh I had to edit. Looks like the one of whom i speak has posted....this might get even more interesting.

I didn't read his post.

he will blow you cocky ass

That makes perfect sense.

Alright, kiddos. Enough. Or none of those cartoons or games or whatever you call them nowadays. >[

Look, you make an assumption that just because he had a dream that his friend was drowning he secretly wishes it? Many theories say many things. Some say it's a premonition. Some say it is in fact a nightmare of some of the things he would be scared to have happen. You cannot assume one thing when you yourself hardly know him or his relationship to his friend. It's not funny. And it's just rude. And don't try and speak anything of honesty, here. There was nothing honest in that answer other than a try at a blow. If not that, then only a try at appearing intelligent. Judging by Rhythm's response, he obviously cares a lot about his mate. And by that, I highly doubt your answer had any value to it.

Now, honestly, both your insults are pretty pathetic. I can only hope you two will have enough dignity to NOT try and have the last word and simply drop it. No more needs to be said. Not even an 'okay.' Damn, people.

Well if you want to be technical, friends could love each other and build a relationship. Sometimes without even knowing it. And as I've put, caring can mean love. Not always, but love does always mean caring. You could easily love a friend. Love doesn't have to be sexual. It can. But it doesn't have to be. Just like with a mother and child.

And to your second comment: You're just nitpicking like a fool, now. First off, you point out that he says you can love your date. You accept this. And then you act as if he said that the relationship has nothing to do with love? Dude. Pick a damn side and stick with it and stop trying to call people out on stuff they didn't even say. Just because you can alter some words does not mean that you're right. And it doesn't make them wrong- not after what I've read.

But I do love the irony. People calling each other out on the discussion aspect, and about maturity and being civilized, and then still wanting to have the last word, but claim their own maturity. 'Makes life worth living.

Dreams are dreams, they have to come from your mind. In that sense, your inner physic. Like I said before, a thought that you yourself may not of directly thought of. Having a dreams about someone drowning isn't a good thing. Either you don;t like them, or some inside your mind caused you to see what is a "nightmare" or a visualization of what you wouldn't want. But dreams seem more or less based on direct thoughts, rather than indirect ones. Hench what I said before.

My insults are pretty pathetic? Then you want to see more vulgar ones?

I never said love was always sexual, nor did I imply it. I just re-stated what he said. The inclusion of the word can love a date. Does make a difference.

Anyone can love anyone else, basically. I think the problem is that you are ignoring my viewpoint and just applying all that I've said to your own viewpoint.

In my opinion, love itself has nothing to do with infatuation, lust, or any other emotion you prefer to use. Love is merely the desire for the well-being of the recipient (seriously, just look at my other posts and you should be able to pick up what I'm saying).

I am seeing it from your viewpoint because the word can does make a difference. This would mean love could be or wouldn't be involved in anything.

[Shadalicious Reminisce]

*sigh* I knew it. You didn't read his post. How convenient. I love the typo quote. As if even a 7 year old couldn't see the apparency in that. "you" for "your" it's seriously whatever, because you knew damn well what I meant.

He blew your cocky ass away just as predicted, yet it was a given to happen from the start.

C WINS!!!!!! FATALITY. Go Prodigy

fin/

[acein12]

Originally Posted by Shattered Redemption

*sigh* I knew it. You didn't read his post. How convenient. I love the typo quote. As if even a 7 year old couldn't see the apparency in that. "you" for "your" it's seriously whatever, because you knew damn well what I meant.

He blew your cocky ass away just as predicted, yet it was a given to happen from the start.

C WINS!!!!!! FATALITY. Go Prodigy

fin/

WTF is your problem? Get off this thread if all you're going to do is spam.

[Shadalicious Reminisce]

Mentioning the idea of this thread and what I liked about it was not spam, nor was talking about how some of the points I have seen here were great and others were not.

The only I can see that you are considering spam is me talking about how Prodigy crushed you. is it bothering you that much?? Maybe seeing others talking about you urks you more than you try to show, but I am not bothered by the fact that I may, or may not be talked about, or have my ideas disputed and turned against me. Shit happens, its a discussion thread.

Calm yourself. There is really no reason to overstimulate yourself on the matter. If you don't feel like continuing this here, then don't. I could care a lot more, but I don't.......

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

so much hate in a thread about love

[acein12]

Originally Posted by Adamus

so much hate in a thread about love

If this was regular discussion there would probably be less hate but this is Intel. It was destined to be a debate.

Originally Posted by Shattered Redemption

Mentioning the idea of this thread and what I liked about it was not spam, nor was talking about how some of the points I have seen here were great and others were not.

The only I can see that you are considering spam is me talking about how Prodigy crushed you. is it bothering you that much?? Maybe seeing others talking about you urks you more than you try to show, but I am not bothered by the fact that I may, or may not be talked about, or have my ideas disputed and turned against me. Shit happens, its a discussion thread.

Calm yourself. There is really no reason to overstimulate yourself on the matter. If you don't feel like continuing this here, then don't. I could care a lot more, but I don't.......

Technically, it was spam, because you didn't have a thing to say about "love".

What did Prodigy say that "crused" me?

Know what, you're right, screw this retarded thread.

[JUSTICE]

Prodigy is right, I over-reacted. I took serious offense when you suggested that I wanted my friend to drown. I won't say any more on the matter, but there's one thing you definitely do not understand, and that's the relationships I share with my friends.

Friends certainly CAN love each other.

[Miss Murder]

Of course friends can "love" each other without being the common definition of "in love". You can easily love a person as a friend.

"Love" is a collection of intimate feelings for a person or any number of people, or any number of things for that matter. In my eyes, there are different levels of love. You can have a general love for a specific "kind" of people - i.e. Environmentalists, people who love animals, etc. Then you can love a person as a friend, where you trust them and really care for their well being. You can love someone as a crush, or as a spouse, or as a family member.

etc.

Love is a collection of emotions in the brain. Anyone can feel love. I just believe that it takes a certain sense of maturity to truly feel the higher "levels" of love, like in a really intimate relationship. But anyone can feel love for their family members, or friends, or pets, etc.

[Lycanthrope]

Love is basically getting attached to something or someone, but not like sexually or anything.

Being in love with someone would refer to sexuality, at least in my viewpoint.

[JUSTICE]

The topic of love was semantic to begin with. Everybody is going to have their own definition.

[kazukifafner]

Originally Posted by acein12

I am seeing it from your viewpoint because the word can does make a difference. This would mean love could be or wouldn't be involved in anything.

How so? I'm sorry but I honestly don't know what you are trying to say. It sounds like you think I'm saying love can be anything, which isn't true. I think love is a specific emotion (I won't define it again because I've done it about 3 times already). What I'm saying is that any person can ("is able to") love another.

[heartless person]

its emotion thats all i got

[Prodigy]

^lmao Adamus.

*Sigh*...

Who honestly believes everything they see one Wikipedia? Its a user made encyclopedia, not everythings true nor reliable. Yes I am insulting you; why would I sit around and let you mock me? Besides you're only 16, there is no major change between 14 and 16.

I generally don't make a habit of interceding on anyone else's behalf, but I guess you passed your hypocrisy class. Nearly every post you've made has had some kind of mocking or insulting tone. And this was before anyone started to insult you. But I'll go with you on the age thing. There isn't a lot of difference, but there still is a difference. However, that really doesn't have any standby on the intelligence of an individual. And that particular circumstance can go on either end of the spectrum.

Stop embarrssing myself, how, in the slightist bit, am I embarrassing myself. I'm discussing what I know and giving reason to why I feel that way. And you're just disagreeing without without giving any reason to feel differently, not to mention the flaming. How about you read up, and come back when you have something intelligent to say.

Well, if you weren't embarrassing yourself before, you sure are now. Look, I'm not trying to attack you here: I'm trying to help you keep yourself from looking like a moronic ass. Whether or not your follow suit is up to you. And much of your discussion is thought mixed with some theory. Given the circumstance of this thread, that is okay; to an extent. However, much of your posts deal with trying to move words around to incite stupidity in others. I'm not sure if that's just the way you're interpreting things, or if that's just what you are trying to do. Regardless, it makes you look like a foolish ass.

I didn't read his post.

I wasn't going to say anything. But, now you've provoked me. What was it about my post that you didn't feel like reading it? Because I actually put thought into it? Because it was than three paragraphs? This is an intelligent discussion. We're here to learn and participate. To simply overlook a post like mine is just being ignorant. I'm not saying any post made by me is any more important than anyone else's, but if you're going to be a part of a debate, you can't just pick and choose what you want to hear. The facts are facts, and opinions are opinions, even if you don't want to read/hear them.

Dreams are dreams, they have to come from your mind. In that sense, your inner physic. Like I said before, a thought that you yourself may not of directly thought of. Having a dreams about someone drowning isn't a good thing. Either you don;t like them, or some inside your mind caused you to see what is a "nightmare" or a visualization of what you wouldn't want. But dreams seem more or less based on direct thoughts, rather than indirect ones. Hench what I said before.

Perhaps you're scared of losing someone? That can be either direct, or indirect. If I dream I that I go into a store and buy a coke, and then I wake up. That's from some dark desire? No. Not everything has to be bad. Not everything is always good, either, but to judge a dream, A DREAM, something nobody has much of real evidence on, and on someone you know nothing about: That's bound for problems. What makes you think that you always have to be correct? Because of what you know? I sincerely hope that isn't your answer, because it is merely what you have been led to believe. That does not mean you know. Believing is not necessarily knowing.

My insults are pretty pathetic? Then you want to see more vulgar ones?

Tell me: Since when did vulgarity ever mean that an insult is any less pathetic? You don't have to be vulgar to be able to insult someone properly. On the contrary, more times that not, it makes one look like an idiot. And to answer your first question: yes. They have been.

I never said love was always sexual, nor did I imply it. I just re-stated what he said. The inclusion of the word can love a date. Does make a difference.

You restated and then twisted his word. Because he says you can love a date, you imply that a relationship has no love? He put can for a reason. Do you know how many high school relationships there are? I do hope that you don't think every one of those relationships experience love. And you did not simply restate what he said. That is, unless you completely missed his point. And you constantly refer to love as lust, or hormones. And then you expect me to believe your cover-up of not always claiming the sexuality of it? Perhaps if you would put forth your actual beliefs and stop harassing people and changing the meaning of their statements you might get somewhere besides leading us all to believe that this is your true notion.

I am seeing it from your viewpoint because the word can does make a difference. This would mean love could be or wouldn't be involved in anything.

The word "can" simply states that love may or may not be involved. That's it. Get over it.

[In this section I sincerely ask Shattered to drop the hate. And then I shake my head at acein12 for his inability to cope.]

Know what, you're right, screw this retarded thread.

Mainly I quote this for shit'n'giggles. You know, the thread is only as retarded as you make it. Meaning, you made it so. And in any case, how can a thread be retarded? Besides, the proper term is "handicapable." And even then, how? A thread does not have a brain. Please, I'd like an explanation. Enlighten me.

Prodigy is right, I over-reacted. I took serious offense when you suggested that I wanted my friend to drown. I won't say any more on the matter, but there's one thing you definitely do not understand, and that's the relationships I share with my friends.

Friends certainly CAN love each other.

At least one of you chilled.

You can have a general love for a specific "kind" of people - i.e. Environmentalists, people who love animals, black people, etc.

Lol. Anyways.. I wouldn't dispute most of what you said, but here I would consider it more along the lines of respect or appreciation. That does not necessarily mean love. Now, you can be a kind and loving person, but nobody actually loves like that. Not the actual emotion itself. You may care for the wellbeing of some people, but even that's not a definite sign of love.

Love is basically getting attached to something or someone, but not like sexually or anything.

Being in love with someone would refer to sexuality, at least in my viewpoint.

You can get attached to a person you hate. So, hate is love? No, attachment doesn't mean anything. It could be a follower, but it does not in any way have to mean love. Well, being "in love" more times than not refers to dates/spouses/etc. Knowing that, it is only common to believe that term to refer to sexuality. And you wouldn't be far off, but what if you love someone, or are in love with someone, but don't have sex? A married couple may have lost interest in it, a long time ago perhaps, so are they no longer in love? Riddle me this, Batman. Oh, and the answer is no. Quick riddle, huh?

The topic of love was semantic to begin with. Everybody is going to have their own definition.

Too bad, because it should have one definition. Perhaps different interpretations, but one definition. That means a LOT of people do NOT know what love is.

its emotion thats all i got

Closer than most.

And if acein12 isn't going to read this, so be it. Still needed to be said.

[Prodigy]

...shit. Bloody Interweb f*cking up on me. :(