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Old 05/25/08, 09:18 AM   #61
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that doesn't mean it's crap, and all of those people that don't believe in it can just go to hell
I'm sure they will...

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Oh, you religious ****s and your views.
We have our views and you have yours...
If you don't like our views, then tough...


And let's not forget that we have the theory of evolution shoved down our throats...
I still chuckle at the fact Darwin denounced the theory completely before he died...


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I think Dog and Myst should get together and have buttsecks to let out all their hateful energies to gays, then life can go on as normal
lol, how mature...

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the homosexual lifestyle is bad and your brother should feel bad
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All you people telling him to be supportive are merely repeating what you've seen others post in this thread. The fact of the matter is that it is NOT normal for someone to be gay, and it is a shame that the U.S. is letting them marry. People say to learn from history; well God has destroyed cities in the past for homosexuality, and unless America gets wise, I'm afraid we'll all be next.
I fear it may already be upon us... Not as one giant ball of distruction, but small events that slowly kills America...

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God is being taken out of everything in this country that was built on Christianity; it's almost a capital crime to use His name somewhere like school.
Which is very sad...

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To get back on the actual subject, though, do whatever you feel is right. Love your brother, as he is your brother, and as God said, "You are your brother's keeper." However, just because he is your brother doesn't mean you should accept his sins as well.
Absolutely, 100% true...

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Oh yeah, BTW, let's see how supportive you are of homosexuality when the Earth is past full capacity and teenage women are still getting pregnant.
Or when they are in eternal hell wishing that they hadn't...

Now, to aquaVen... Support your brother...
Though I do not believe in homosexuality, I agree with XIII Heartless... He's your brother and you should support him...
You and your family will most likely face some hard times ahead of you, but put your trust in God and you all will make it through it...

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Old 05/25/08, 09:47 AM   #62
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Or when they are in eternal hell wishing that they hadn't...
lol eternal hell. What's truly saddening is a Christian that thinks they know their own religion.

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put your trust in God and you all will make it through it...
Don't buy this BS, God is the reason why nobody will tolerate your brother in the first place.

Put trust in YOURSELF and the people you love most. The results are quite astounding, as you'll find.
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Old 05/25/08, 10:08 AM   #63
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If we're going to argue the legitimacy of homosexuality as a choice or condition then everyone should take a moment to consider their own orientation.

Men don't give me raging hard ons. Women do. I watch porn and I'm always more focused on the woman than the man. So obviously I'm straight.
I haven't put thought into this, or just decided something. I am just attracted to women. Not all, of course but that's beside the point.

So hey, I truly doubt orientation is a matter of choice. You can deny it, but you can't change what you're attracted to.
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Old 05/25/08, 10:15 AM   #64
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So God loves everyone, including gays. The only thing that matters is if you actually do something to someone of the same sex; that is not right and therefore looked down upon by God. And from this, "hatred for gays" evolved, just like how, for example, inapproppriate religious humor have evolved to this day. People have misunderstood God, some just don't believe in God, so from all of that, a lot of fallacies and false beliefs were born about gays.

So everyone, just stop. If you're gay, just try to ignore the urges, and try to "change your ways" if you can. God still loves you, so just do what he wishes for you to do, and you're fine.
So gays are loved but are denied teh lovin'? Hm. Man I dig your post.
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Old 05/25/08, 10:31 AM   #65
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So hey, I truly doubt orientation is a matter of choice. You can deny it, but you can't change what you're attracted to.
That's about it. I dare all the straight people in this thread who don't agree to try and 'turn' gay.

Also, from my perspective, if God has a thing against homosexuality, he's not God. God's a bit of a fag if he doesn't accept you because of something you have no choice over.

It'd be like God sending Mysterious to hell because he has three fingers.
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Old 05/25/08, 10:36 AM   #66
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Holy ****ing shite at the people who turned this into a "OMG UR BRO IS GOIN TO HELL, HATE HIM." The guy asked for help, not a ****ing lecture on what a "horrible ****ing person" his brother is. This whole thread has gone off track. Seriously you guys.

But, to the OP, it's been said before, but I might as well say it again. Best not to tell anyone about it. This should be a strictly family thing until your brother feels he's ready to come out with it. Don't try and judge him, either. That's the worst possible thing you can do at this point.

All in all, best of luck to you.
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Old 05/25/08, 10:55 AM   #67
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Just because it happens alot, doesn't make it normal ;]
No one is Normal on this planet..

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Your idea of love, and love, are two totally different things.
If someone said, I couldn't be with the woman I love.. Because she is rich and then I am and it's not right of us too love each other..

Is that right?

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Wow, SE, lol.
They did a study on identical twins. Obviously, identical twins will have identical DNA, so if people are born gay then all identical twins will both be either bi, gay, or straight. While studies showed that less than half of the studied identical twins ended up being both gay/bi. Meaning, a large percentage of twins were one twin gay/bi, the other straight. Meaning, genes and structure of the brain had nothing to do with the person developing to be gay or straight. You aren't born with homosexuality, otherwise that would contradict the identical twin studies.
identical twins don't like same girls either..

identical twins don't do goodl in the same subjects..

identical twins don't have the same figure prints

identical twins are different in some ways right? I mean one may love too party and the other may not.

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that doesn't mean it's crap, and all of those people that don't believe in it can just go to hell
No, the people who go on about and try run peoples life is BS. and How mature of you telling them they can go too hell.

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even my little brother is more mature than you
My little cuz is more mature then you...

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people CHOOSE what to do, and god made this test for us
if we choose to disobey him we will be punished
So people choose too be born with AIDS etc? People choose too get rapped and have kid at a young age?

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you know that's wrong
No, it's right..

Woman turn me on.. I couldn't be gay even if I tried.. Same for gay people.

You bible freaks are funny, you try too run people's lives but it doesn't always work and that pisses you off doesn't it?

This is the land of free.. Not the land of Bible freaks. We are free to love who we want.. Let me guess mixing races means you will go hell as well right???

I mean that what some Bible freaks have said..

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Which is very sad...
How is it sad? Isn't this a land based on freedom?)even tho we aren't really free because we have still have people like you and we can't do lot because its not right in gods eyes?)))

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Old 05/25/08, 02:09 PM   #68
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I love how religious fags keep quoting Silh when he's obviously kidding

great job guys, you sure are smart
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Old 05/25/08, 05:10 PM   #69
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I still chuckle at the fact Darwin denounced the theory completely before he died...
Actually, he didn't. Some religious losers made that up to make it seem even the person who created the theory of evolution rejected it a the last minute. He didn't.

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Most people have to realize that before a person is gay, their still human. Hard to believe, for the hardcore bible and qur'an believers, yes I know.

Saying a person is going to hell, just because of a book told you its wrong? Wow, thats mature. I think I'll go eat some green eggs and ham for breakfast, I heard it tasted great, but if I end up getting sick, its okay Dr. Seuss said its alright.

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Old 05/25/08, 05:27 PM   #70
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Old 05/25/08, 11:20 PM   #71
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Oh OmniChaos, you and being wrong seem to go like peanut butter and jelly.

Go read a book besides the bible, and then come back and try to have an intelligent conversation.

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Old 05/26/08, 01:59 AM   #72
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To all religious folk here: do you guys honestly think people choose to be gay, even with all this hatred that exists toward them? You really think they'd go through so far if they could help NOT being gay?

Not natural, you say? As in, not in nature? There is such as thing as homossexual behavior in animals. It's not uncommon either, I suggest you all look into it. It's not something you can control. Furthermore, it's stated that God knows everything, and determines everyone's ultimate fate. If so, he's punishing people for stuff that isn't their fault, and he's a monster.

Why shouldn't they be allowed to marry? They're people just like you, they deserve love, respect, and equal treatment.

All this kid came here for was some advice on how to handle a situation that often turns out ugly when not handled in the correct manner. It was going relatively well too. Then you guys came in here with all this "UR BRO IS A FILTHEH SINNER HES A GONNA BURN IN HELLFAIAZ" shit. Really uncalled for, and not christian-like at all. You guys could have just simply given an "well, I might not really agree with it, but I'd advise you to support him", or something along those lines. I doubt anybody would have made any hassle.

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People say to learn from history; well God has destroyed cities in the past for homosexuality, and unless America gets wise, I'm afraid we'll all be next.
...in the Bible. Since when is it the most realible historical document ever? You have to reliaze, kid, not everyone considers a book written thousands of years ago by people who had little knowledge of the universe and its workings, has been edited several times by man for his own personal gain, and that could very easily be false, to be the ultimate authority on everything, making your comment empty.

By the way, this and your other rather negative contributions are quite possibly the most pretentious and holier-than-thou comments I've heard in a long time. Give yourself a pat on the back, I'm sure your God is very proud of you. Then again, apparently he hates fags and slaughtered innocent people for it, so that might not necessarily have to be sarcastic.

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And let's not forget that we have the theory of evolution shoved down our throats...
Evolution has nothing to do with the topic, I don't even know why you brought it up. It seems mostly like an excuse to victimize yourselves. =/

Regardless, it's mostly the other way around. We live in a society of religious intolerance where we, the non-theists, are the most hated minority. Of course there are non-religious that are arrogant and give us a bad name (<_< militant atheists come to mind), but that's an unfair generalization, just like me saying all christians are filthy intolerant bigots.

Furthermore, if by "forcing down [your] throats" you mean go through great lenghts to legalize it and teach it in all public schools and universities...that's because it's a proven scientific fact, just like electromagnetism, relativity, and gravity, whether you like it or not. The definition of "theory" science uses is not the same one most people use.

By the way Omni, if you by any chance want to question evolution's validity, please do so elsewhere, this isn't the place for it.

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He didn't, actually, that's a myth proven false. And if he did, so what? It doesn't affect evolution's credibility at all, though it would be rather ironic.

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God is being taken out of everything in this country that was built on Christianity; it's almost a capital crime to use His name somewhere like school.
The USA was built on slavery as well. Just because things are old doesn't mean we should keep them. Furthermore, if you want to allow stuff like prayer in schools, you have to allow every type of religious prayer present in the USA, including Muslim, Hindu, etc, and we all how that would turn out, don't we?

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Or when they are in eternal hell wishing that they hadn't...
Eternal hell does not exist. It was an invention by the catholic church. What DOES exist is Gehenna, Tartarus, Hades, and Sheol. None of them are described as places of eternal suffering. All that's mentioned is "death" and "destruction".

Anyways, I believe there is nothing wrong with being gay. The best you and your family can do is support your brother, it's still not all that easy to be a homosexual these days.

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Old 05/26/08, 02:29 AM   #73
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Well: If hell is true. I'm going to burn and I am going to love everymoment of it.
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Old 05/26/08, 02:50 AM   #74
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It's going to be rad. We'll be with all sorts of cool cats, like Ghandi, Nietzche, Plato, Einstein, and the great Charles Darwin himself.

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Old 05/26/08, 03:09 AM   #75
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Well, I am a Christian and feel the need to share my views.

First, to those who are just saying that his brother is going to hell: How dare you! That isn't a Christian attitude! We weren't put on Earth to condemn others. We can share our feelings, but don't be so judgmental.

Now, Aquaven, I 100% believe that you're brother feels that way, and you should accept him as your brother because won't change. Personally, I feel we each lean towards a certain "sin". We feel a strong desire, and want it to be justified. Other examples (beside homosexuality) are serial killers, cleptomaniacs, and pathological liars. They lean towards that, but society glorifies homosexuality and says it is right. That is how I feel, but I don't know you or your brother, so all I can say is accept him, for we have all done things wrong (remember, these are only my views)
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