RE: Critique

[Ray]

So, with the sudden influx of newer members, the Graphics section has been taking some hits. There are several members who're gallivanting around this section who can't give acceptable critique. So, this isn't to put them down, rather, it's to help them learn what acceptable critique is.


Unacceptable Critique:

I like bothe of them..........

Nothing is really said here. it's spam, plain and simple. We need a LOT less of this. If you have nothing worthwhile to say, don't post at all, please.

Destructive Criticism:

Text is horrible, stock is horrible, brushing or smudging or whatever you did is horrible, the whole thing is horribly boring. What program did you use to make this?

These types of posts are what's killing this section. It's rude, stupid, arrogant, and completely unneeded. It's not even critique, it's an outright attack on the person's work.

Acceptable Critique:

work on the colors, they're kinda meh-ish +the white lighting and the black light-thingie dont mix well, they're too contrasty or something, meh-ish again

but the bg is overall nice, just a bit random,... a few tweaks here and there, and it'll be better, like the stock and the lighting above it.... typo maybe?

This is borderline acceptable. It's blunt, but it does critique the other person's artwork, but only barely. While this is fine, we'll want more of the next example.

Great Critique:

Lesse
The tag is extremely blurry. Instead of Motion Blurring then reducing the opacity/setting it to Lighten you could try to create motion through less conventional methods. Try to work with the flow, instead of just using Motion Blur, because M. Blur hardly ever looks good when applied to an entire tag. On the flow, it's well defined on the left side of the tag, but on the right you have fractals and textures that completely throw it off by going in circles. The stock takes up an incredibly large amount of space on the tag, which just isn't working. There needs to be lighting and a foreground. Sharpening it would help it.

And it could do without the text. Still, keep working on it.

His problem isn't making colors stand out, it's his choice in colors. Monotone tags are boring, dull, there's no life in them. It seems as if you just eyedropped and did it all with one or two brushes. That's the meaning of generic. Now if you were to try to use the color theory in your tags then they'd start to look better. Try working with complementaries, split complementaries, and analogous colors. Red > Green. Yellow > Purple. Blue > Orange. Those are your complementaries, try working with those before you try anything else. They'll help your tags pop out. Also try working with depth and flow. These are a bit harder to define, so I'll just let you get used to the color theory before I put too much on you.

These are perfect. They're not sugar-coated, but at the same time they're not attacking the piece. It goes in-depth on the tag, giving them tips and advice on what to do, and they keep their critique on a lighter tone.


So come on guys, what we need is better critique. If you can all remember to put some tact to your posts, then we'll see this sub-forum flourish like it was a year or two ago.

[Veritas_Aequitas]

Seconded. Sticky this now, please.

[Milkman]

Sticky this now... .

[C4E]

Thank you Sparkle.
This has been happening a lot lately and at least now i know im not the only one getting bothered by it.

[Ray]

yesss unstickied for now.

So, everyone, please read. I know stickies don't get read, so have at it.

[NeoTwilight]

Can we report people who are posting SPAM-ish and/or destructive criticism here or on a different thread maybe?

I don't have Photoshop so I can't give perfect critique like those examples, but I get the basic idea....
I'm more inbetween acceptable and almost perfect in my opinion. However, many people who post on the GFX forum give pointless ratings and stuff like that which gives nothing to the artist except for higher self-esteem. Can we report this somewhere or should we just let it go?

[Ray]

If you see anything that's just plain spam or destructive, PM it to either Frozen Inferno or Manchester Black, so they can do something about. Alternatively, you can send the links to me and I'll get it to one of them

[monkeybutt]

Originally Posted by NeoTwilight

Can we report people who are posting SPAM-ish and/or destructive criticism here or on a different thread maybe?

I don't have Photoshop so I can't give perfect critique like those examples, but I get the basic idea....
I'm more inbetween acceptable and almost perfect in my opinion. However, many people who post on the GFX forum give pointless ratings and stuff like that which gives nothing to the artist except for higher self-esteem. Can we report this somewhere or should we just let it go?

There's a "report this post" button next to every post underneath the username of the "post-ee".

[NeoTwilight]

mk, thanx for the information. I'll be on the lookout...(and hopefully I wont post any myself >.>)

[Ray]

Just remember this thread. Or else.

Also, this needs to be seen by everyone >:

[*twilight_riku*]

good drills, good drills *thumbs up*

[Milkman]

Keep this bumped. For justice.

[monkeybutt]

Also, even when critiquing well with good details, make sure to tell them what they did right also, or else they wont know what they should continue doing. xD I know a lot of times people have been like "THIS IS WORST THEN YOUR LAST ONE". <_<

Is that my lovely Ash Milkman? I want an ash tag. ;_;

[Milkman]

Originally Posted by monkeybutt

Also, even when critiquing well with good details, make sure to tell them what they did right also, or else they wont know what they should continue doing. xD I know a lot of times people have been like "THIS IS WORST THEN YOUR LAST ONE". <_<

Is that my lovely Ash Milkman? I want an ash tag. ;_;

you can have this one

made it few days ago.

[NeoTwilight]

*BUMP for the sake of destructive posters! BUMP like you've never BUMPed before!*
(Nice sig Milkman..... sooooo sexy! xDD )