Official Nintendo Discussion Thread - You aren't special, Changed Name

[Vandread]

Originally Posted by Haku

Oh by MK I meant Mario Kart, but yeah same goes for me too the Mortal Kombat series just isn't what it used to be back in the early days.

Oh lol. Mario Kart didn't even cross my mind. I kinda forgot that was coming out.

[Shadow Soulja]

Originally Posted by Stavros

Don't get my wrong, it's a great classic, but it doesn't live up to todays. . .standards?

Not that many games do.

Hell, I still play a bunch of really old games, probably more that I do this gen, or at least somewhere close.

So you're saying the original Zelda game isn't good enough because it doesn't live up to todays standards? Thats like saying to a 4 year who drew his mommy and daddy a picture and the parents are artists and they say "This isn't good. The contrast is all wrong, the shading is wrong. The concept is wrong, the coloring is horrible, would it kill you to color in the lines?"

Zelda back then was revolutionary. It brought to the table what most games back then never. Adventure games back then weren't free roaming, and Zelda games today aren't either. It placed you in a place where you knew no where to go, and no one to help you. No specific order in which what dungeons to beat. The map was horrible lets face it. But it also brought challenge. And right after you beat Ganon, you felt relieved, and thankful and a great sense of accomplishment. Beating that game was no easy task. Not very many little kids back then could beat the original zelda. Unlike today where 7 year old's are beating Ocarina of Time faster than adults.

[Stavvy]

If I'm ever a parent, I'd say that to my child. . .kidding.

I still think that it's the worst out of LttP, OoT, MM, WW, and TP. . .

[Vandread]

Originally Posted by Shadow Soulja

So you're saying the original Zelda game isn't good enough because it doesn't live up to todays standards? Thats like saying to a 4 year who drew his mommy and daddy a picture and the parents are artists and they say "This isn't good. The contrast is all wrong, the shading is wrong. The concept is wrong, the coloring is horrible, would it kill you to color in the lines?"

Zelda back then was revolutionary. It brought to the table what most games back then never. Adventure games back then weren't free roaming, and Zelda games today aren't either. It placed you in a place where you knew no where to go, and no one to help you. No specific order in which what dungeons to beat. The map was horrible lets face it. But it also brought challenge. And right after you beat Ganon, you felt relieved, and thankful and a great sense of accomplishment. Beating that game was no easy task. Not very many little kids back then could beat the original zelda. Unlike today where 7 year old's are beating Ocarina of Time faster than adults.

Problem with that analogy is that a four-year old's drawing probably isn't revolutionary at all.

[Ð]

Originally Posted by KH Vandread

Problem with that analogy is that a four-year old's drawing probably isn't revolutionary at all.

Unless it was the FIRST drawing made by a four-year old.

[Shadow Soulja]

Originally Posted by KH Vandread

Problem with that analogy is that a four-year old's drawing probably isn't revolutionary at all.

I didn't say the drawing was revolutionary. I said that saying the game doesn't live up to today's standards is like saying the drawing sucks.

Originally Posted by Stavros

I still think that it's the worst out of LttP, OoT, MM, WW, and TP. . .

Of course you wouldn't. Thats one of the things wrong with today's child gamers. Nothing is ever good enough. They don't respect and appreciate the classic and unique things.

[Trag]

Legend of Zelda is and always will be one of the most revolutionary games to hit the industry.

[Stavvy]

Originally Posted by Shadow Soulja

I didn't say the drawing was revolutionary. I said that saying the game doesn't live up to today's standards is like saying the drawing sucks.



Of course you wouldn't. Thats one of the things wrong with today's child gamers. Nothing is ever good enough. They don't respect and appreciate the classic and unique things.

Why the hell do you think that just because I bashed ONE classic game, doesn't mean that I don't appreciate older games. I own more games for my SNES than I do my Wii/360/PS3. I play them more than I do my other systems.

I'm guessing that you want me to shut up now and go play one of the thousands of FPS clones, now don't you?

[Shadow Soulja]

No because FPS's suck. Theres only so much you can do with them until they all become the same thing.

[Ð]

Originally Posted by Shadow Soulja

No because FPS's suck. Theres only so much you can do with them until they all become the same thing.

Well... I could counter that argument with... Say... Half Life, versus all other FPS before it.

In FPS before Half Life, they functioned like Doom or similar games. The enemies shuffled around randomly, sometimes even moving into the line of fire of their own allies. That was the norm for their combat AI.

And then Half Life came, with the Human Grunts, who ran behind cover, threw gernades, and worked together in order to take you take. That AI was revolutionary.

But, over all, FPS sees fewer and fewer inovations, revolutions etc etc.

[Stavvy]

So are we done arguing now? Or shall we continue?

Stupid Death in Aria of Sorrow. . .

[obbsessed fan]

Originally Posted by Shadow Soulja

No because FPS's suck. Theres only so much you can do with them until they all become the same thing.

Lol I used to hate FPS untill I played metriod prime, lol but yeah I know it wasn't an original FPS, I've also played the second metroid, and a little bit of the first zelda, I say the old games still are pwning, I still play the old metriod to this day =P and same for zelda if I owned the game.

[Shadow Soulja]

Metroid Prime isn't an FPS.

[Vandread]

Originally Posted by Shadow Soulja

Metroid Prime isn't an FPS.

Uh...what now? Last I checked, it is.

[Shadow Soulja]

No, Nintendo already classified it as a First Person Adventure.