Jak and Daxter Discussion

[griever]

Oh wow there's a Jak thread! How did I not know about this? Ok I loved this trilogy, I must confess I've never played Daxter due to teh lack of a psp unfortunately. Well this is a pure discussion thread, so I shall discuss.

I found none of the games in the trilogy hard, though I found jak X insanely difficult. Beating it on heroic mode was no mean feat and I am still yet to score a gold medal in every race (only one to go, wish me luck with that, I hate the damned sewers :p)

I've beaten the other Jaks more times than I have extremeties with which to count. Jak and Daxter was an incredible platforming experience and the environment in jak 2 was gorgeous. I didn't like a few of the changes in Jak 3, and the extra guns were a bit much, but exploring the wasteland and the coming of Light Jak made up for that.

Little tid bit accomplishments:
Onin's game high score: 8943
target practice (jak 3) high score: somewhere in the area of 400,000 i forget the exact amount but I can't seem to find that memory card to check.
Fastest completion time of Jak and Daxter TPL 100%: 9.5 hours, (done in one sitting)
Obtained all 600 orbs in Jak 3.
Longest I went without a death in jak 2 on heroic: where you have to destroy 40 crimson guard jet pack soldiers while in a turret.
Jak 3 on heroic: no deaths (I don't consider that much of an achievment though, Jak 3 on heroic is easier than jak 3 on standard)

I must confess my absolute love for the load free environment, I loved that you could see the end of the game in JaD:TPL from the beginning of the game. I also loved standing on the railing of the Palace and looking out over haven city and teh surrounding areas, it was an awesome view, especially at night (and yay for day to night transitioning :D)

One thing I detested about Jak 3: Changing Jak's love interest to Ashelin without any explanation of that and then once again changing it back to Kiera with (once again) absoltuely no good reasaon.

I'm done ranting, you may have your thread back

[SuperNova]

I found none of the games in the trilogy hard, though I found jak X insanely difficult. Beating it on heroic mode was no mean feat and I am still yet to score a gold medal in every race (only one to go, wish me luck with that, I hate the damned sewers :p)

I've had trouble obtaining a gold medal in Haven city sewer in heroic/hardest difficulty also,it's kinda confusing,the ways.

Little tid bit accomplishments:
Onin's game high score: 8943
target practice (jak 3) high score: somewhere in the area of 400,000 i forget the exact amount but I can't seem to find that memory card to check.
Fastest completion time of Jak and Daxter TPL 100%: 9.5 hours, (done in one sitting)
Obtained all 600 orbs in Jak 3.
Longest I went without a death in jak 2 on heroic: where you have to destroy 40 crimson guard jet pack soldiers while in a turret.
Jak 3 on heroic: no deaths (I don't consider that much of an achievment though, Jak 3 on heroic is easier than jak 3 on standard)

Good accomplishments,you seem to be a master of the games,also I can't remember if there were any way to choose the difficulty in Jak 3,tell me how.

I must confess my absolute love for the load free environment, I loved that you could see the end of the game in JaD:TPL from the beginning of the game. I also loved standing on the railing of the Palace and looking out over haven city and teh surrounding areas, it was an awesome view, especially at night (and yay for day to night transitioning :D)

Yeah,the open ended-free roaming enviornment was a great part of the series and I like games which have large environments where the player can freely explore around.
And the view of the areas in the palace is in Jak 2,right?



Lucky you.

One thing I detested about Jak 3: Changing Jak's love interest to Ashelin without any explanation of that and then once again changing it back to Kiera with (once again) absoltuely no good reasaon.

It seemed that Ashelin became Jak's love interest during Jak 3 but it only looked they were in love,no proof.
Also,how can you tell if Jak and Ashelin kissed during the ending of Jak 3?

[Zoidberg!]

Originally Posted by M.o.N

Good accomplishments,you seem to be a master of the games,also I can't remember if there were any way to choose the difficulty in Jak 3,tell me how.

You have to buy hero mode. After you beat it on normal difficulty. Then, it gives you the option to start a new game with all of the stuff. Select yes, and maybe start a new save file. This will be your "Hero" difficulty one.

[Ningacom]

lmao @ Jak 3. I loved Jak's player-ism, and he compleatly forgot he was in love with Keira till Jak X.

BUT

I think I can explain thios sudden cahnge of intrest

1) bewbz
2) BEWBZ!
3) Well, Jak realized that Ashelin wanted to get in his pants, so he was compared Keira's possible kinkiness rate to Ashelin's.
4) Keira only has, like, 2 lines in the game, none of which are even close to being romantic >.>
5) It could be a set up for a plot element in future Jak games, where Jak has to choose between bitch A and bitch B.

And the reason he went back to Keira in Jak X was b/c Ashelin went all PMS on everyone, and Jak was frightened ._.

Originally Posted by M.o.N

Also,how can you tell if Jak and Ashelin kissed during the ending of Jak 3?

They strongly imply it. They looked like they were ready to get it on, and either they kissed or Ashelin did made some inappropiate moves on Jak's junk

So uh, Jak goes back in time to be Mar. Duh.

Or perhaps Jak can just be in denial that he's Mar, and go through internal conflict :3

[griever]

Originally Posted by Ningacom

I think I can explain thios sudden cahnge of intrest

1) bewbz
2) BEWBZ!
3) Well, Jak realized that Ashelin wanted to get in his pants, so he was compared Keira's possible kinkiness rate to Ashelin's.
4) Keira only has, like, 2 lines in the game, none of which are even close to being romantic >.>
5) It could be a set up for a plot element in future Jak games, where Jak has to choose between bitch A and bitch B.

You have a very interesting sense of humour, but to my knowledge Naughty Dog realised that they weren't going to get many applause for changing Kiera's voice actress, and so they tried to keep the change out of the spotlight by giving her only the lines that were absolutely crucial. And not having many lines isn't exactly a compatible factor for a protagonists main love interest.

Still a stupid decision on their part though.

Also, what information do people have that the Jak series is being continued? To my knowledge Naughty Dog decided that Jak X would be their last Jak project, that they had done as much as they thought was necessary... (obviously Daxter wasn't produced by Naughty Dog and as such doesn't count)

[Staulmaster]

If I remember correctly, Naughty Dog has said that they'd like to continue the Jak and Daxter series using the Uncharted engine, and they've already copyrighted a name: Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier, but so far no other information about it has been announced.

You have a very interesting sense of humour, but to my knowledge Naughty Dog realised that they weren't going to get many applause for changing Kiera's voice actress, and so they tried to keep the change out of the spotlight by giving her only the lines that were absolutely crucial. And not having many lines isn't exactly a compatible factor for a protagonists main love interest.

Is that so? Well, it makes sense. I always liked Keira, and I liked the kind of rivalry between her and Ashelin in Jak II, and the fact of changing Jak's love interest upset me as well.

You didn't find any of the games hard, griever? I can remember a few instances in Jak II where I wanted to smash my PS2 against the wall. Well, good for you then lol.

[SuperNova]

Originally Posted by Zoidberg!

You have to buy hero mode. After you beat it on normal difficulty. Then, it gives you the option to start a new game with all of the stuff. Select yes, and maybe start a new save file. This will be your "Hero" difficulty one.

Oh,I remember,it restarts the game and Jak gets to keep all his weapons and armor but the light and dark eco abilities go away and the player has to obtain them again in the storyline,it also resets the precursor eggs.I played hero mode many times,no difficulty really.

They strongly imply it. They looked like they were ready to get it on, and either they kissed or Ashelin did made some inappropiate moves on Jak's junk

Lol,maybe....

[Stavvy]

I remember making JakII crash, once. Glitched the game with GD Jak, and the game shot itself. . .

Eh, I like Kiera more than Ashelen. . .

[Ningacom]

Originally Posted by Staulmaster

You didn't find any of the games hard, griever? I can remember a few instances in Jak II where I wanted to smash my PS2 against the wall. Well, good for you then lol.

lmao, I came name tons of them xD Specially in Hard mode.

There were the hover-bike races, infiltrating the weapons factory, that stupid rail car thing (nvr DID get past that in Jak II's hero mode), the sewers when you had to escort those 3 dudes, and the open race through Haven against Eral (sp?).

Also, what information do people have that the Jak series is being continued? To my knowledge Naughty Dog decided that Jak X would be their last Jak project, that they had done as much as they thought was necessary... (obviously Daxter wasn't produced by Naughty Dog and as such doesn't count)

go back a few posts, I said that no such game is in development, this is just speculation for fun.

[griever]

Originally Posted by Staulmaster

If I remember correctly, Naughty Dog has said that they'd like to continue the Jak and Daxter series using the Uncharted engine, and they've already copyrighted a name: Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier, but so far no other information about it has been announced.

You didn't find any of the games hard, griever? I can remember a few instances in Jak II where I wanted to smash my PS2 against the wall. Well, good for you then lol.

Thanks, and yeah I went and read that article after I posted last night, though to my knowledge it's been sitting in wikipedia for over two years, I think they'd have made some confirmation by now if they intended to act on it. For the other users tracking this thread, I would love to see a sequel in which jak is going through time fulfilling the things that he has already accomnplished as Mar.

And I must admit that on Heroic the battle against the 40 jet pack crimson guards did give me troubles as a kid, perhaps I did jump the gun in saying that none of it was hard, though nothing caused me to die more than three times in the game except for that mission.

And other than that I have one question for the general populace... it may have been discussed earlier but would you all agree with me that once you get to the later races on Jak X and throughout all of Heroic mode the game begins to cheat somewhat?

[Josh]

wows I make epic thread, yesh.


Ragha!

[one wing angel]

it's cause jak kicks ass . i must admit tho i was disappointed after three. i didn't expect daxter to be a precursor. i was mad they didn't leave and still mad that it was all tied up after three

[SuperNova]

Eral

Erol.

it's cause jak kicks ass . i must admit tho i was disappointed after three. i didn't expect daxter to be a precursor. i was mad they didn't leave and still mad that it was all tied up after three

Hmm,I actually laughed that the "Almighty Precursors" were nothing but Ottsels with powers.

The scene where the precursors' true forms are shown and Jak,Daxter and count Vulgar..I mean Vegar get shocked and whatnot made me laugh a lot. And I agree.

[griever]

Originally Posted by M.o.N

and count Vulgar..I mean Vegar

:p awesome, I feel like spamming you with daxter quotes now

"save the world, stay small and fuzzy... choices choices... ok fine but do it quickly before I change my mind!"
"ooo she's a betty, and she like you jak, not that I can account for her tastes..."
"This place looks worse than my old bedroom back home"
"It's a curse isn't it..."
"Hey, they have pants!!"
"You may want to shave some parts, trust me on that"
"You ah... got somethin'.. itchin, under your robes there? They have ointment for that you know"

I can think of more but I'll spare you too many :p

But I can't leave this out...
Jak: Where would you be without me eh Dax?
Daxter: Well Jak, I probably wouldn't be two feet tall, fuzzy and running around in a sewer without a pair of pants... god I miss pants.

Firstly... my apologies for double posting, but for one, my last post was some time ago, and for two this thread is dying and as such I knew noone would read this post if I only made an edit.

Anyways, the piont of this post is... I have a new high score for Onin's game! (yes I actually beat my high score of 8030. My new high score is 8515!! I'm curious to know if anyone has beaten that because I have never heard anyone mention scoring over 4000 and I get the feeling a gamer of my calibur couldn't be a record holder. So if you've beaten that score or you've seen elsewhere someone on the net that has please let me know ;)

[Ningacom]

So... bringing back old threads and such...

I was playing Jak II today, and watched the scene where they talk about Toddler Jak being the heir of Mar and such.

Anyway, not sure why this never came to me, but that would mean if Jak is indeed Mar, then he's his own great grandson/father.

Thinking about it that way, you actually start to figure other things. For example, depending on which side of Jak's family has the Mar lineage (maternal or fraternal), Damos may also be one of Jak's grandsons. And if the royal blood does come from Damos, then that would mean Praxis is a grandson of Jak's as well (=o).

Another time paradox, unless Jak had children before he went back in time to build Haven, his family tree is actually a circle. Meaning the oldest, and youngest member of his family tree is himself (=o).

Again, this might be lololdnews to everyone else, but it hadn't dawned on me until today.