POd Idea-along with 14TH theory type deal.

[Divine Light]

now i know its alittle far fetched and crazy but here it goes...

didn't it say pods in mansion looked like they had been used before when you examine them????? well i had alittle theory idea type thing going on. what if around BBS time after battle Ven got wounded as you knpw(that Darkness enjection and Freeze type thing) Aqua took him to their HQ and put him in a pod to sleep(can you see where this is going????) he slept he for years not aging and such. awhile later ATW found this pod and was perplexed and in wonderded about it. when he studied him he saw his heart had been injected with Darkness. after a long time ATW figured out how to remove the Darkness. his Apprentice Xehanort when facinated with darkness took his plunge into it he stole Ven from the pod and fled. Xehanort began to form his own Lab/Lair and tried to harness the power of the heartless. when he failed the heartless stole his heart. Xehanort now known as Xemnas awoke on the moonlit beach. memories mostly erased all he had of his past was a sleeping Ven with him. he found himself with odd powers and used them to his advantage. he created a corridor of darkness and entered it. he appeared in the World that Never was. long priviously Twilight Town was consumed by darkness. some keyblade wielder that lived in that time saved it from the darkness. but the darkness seemed to have a mind of its own and left Twilight Town before the wielder could destroy it. the darkness had absorbed Twilght towns essense and then formed its self in the shape of twilight town only in the form of darkness.(i know its insane because it sounds like worlds having nobody type things. when Xemnas found the world he had his creature servants that appeared along with him build him a mighty castle. when it was finished he used his Nobodys(Soccerers) to create a room Xemnas named the room of Awakening with a pod like the one Ven was in before. Xemnas placed Ven in here hoping to somehow Awaken him someday. awhile later Xemnas finds another pod in the waters of the Dark shore. he finds a bule haired girl in them sleeping. she seemed to be in the same type of state as Ven had been. but this girl seemed to have lost her memories completely. she wished she could remember but couldn't. Xemnas creates the room of sleep placing her in their hoping for her to regain her memories through sleep in dreams or other things. after she remember small fragments which took over a course of a few months Xemnas had formed Org 13. Xemnas awakens her and brings her into organization 13.(Okay this is just hypothecticly if Aqua was the 14th. the reason they have her is because she has a keyblade and can help achieve the goal. but when her memories return completely she remebers her past and wants to leave org 13 saying they are badguys and she plans to reveal there plans. Xemnas cannot alow this can he? no no no so he sends Roxas to kill number 14 because 14th trusts roxas so it will be easy. Roxas doesn't want to but Xemnas says he will kill him if he doesn't do it. Roxas kills 14TH explaining why she isn't in KH2. and maybe i was thinking that when Riku was poking around in WTNW he found a keyblade and took it. later her gives it to Kairi to fight with. little did they know it was Aqua's. the problem is that Kairi doesn't have the one Aqua has in KH2FM secret ending other wise i think it could work. okay thats all for or now.......


ROFL BTW i dont mean Ven sleeping in bed with him i mean lying knocked out next to him LOL.

[I<3Roxas]

Wow, thats quite a theory ya got there. Not being familiar with the FM+ "Rooms" could you enlighten me real quick? I guess if AtW could make a digital TT, a dark version could be possible, but it seems weird that the darkness could just make a world. I'd believe that it changed one a ton like Hollow Bastion before i believe it made a completely new one. A problem though - in the pods you do age. Hence Sora's clothing was too small and he was still a year older. Donald and Goofy didn't seem to age because they're already adults.

[Divine Light]

here watch this video.

YouTube - Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix - New Scene - HB / TWTNW scenes

Oh and yeah they age srrrrrrry so Ven ages alittle.

[The Twilight Prince]

First and foremost. Wall of text=bad. Split up your topics next time please. On to the theory...

Originally Posted by KHdude21

now i know its alittle far fetched and crazy but here it goes...

didn't it say pods in mansion looked like they had been used before when you examine them????? well i had alittle theory idea type thing going on. what if around BBS time after battle Ven got wounded as you knpw(that Darkness enjection and Freeze type thing) Aqua took him to their HQ and put him in a pod to sleep(can you see where this is going????)

I've thought a lot about the pods being used for one of the BBS characters before myself...

he slept he for years not aging and such.

This doesn't work. He would have aged. Sora aged when he slept in the pod. Why would the others be any different?

awhile later ATW found this pod and was perplexed and in wonderded about it. when he studied him he saw his hard had been injected with Darkness. after a long time ATW figured out how to remove the Darkness. his Apprentice Xehanort when facinated with darkness took his plunge into it he stole Ven from the pod and fled.

Doncha think something this important would have been written in Ansem's reports?

Xehanort began to form his own Lab/Lair and tried to harness the power of the heartless. when he failed the heartless stole his heart.

This also doesn't work, as Xehanort willingly gave his heart up to darkness, becoming a heartless. They didn't take it.

Xehanort now known as Xemnas awoke on the moonlit beach. memories mostly erased all he had of his past was a sleeping Ven with him. he found himself with odd powers and used them to his advantage. he created a corridor of darkness and entered it. he appeared in the World that Never was. long priviously Twilight Town was consumed by darkness.some keyblade wielder that lived in that time saved it from the darkness. but the darkness seemed to have a mind of its own and left Twilight Town before the wielder could destroy it. the darkness had absorbed Twilght towns essense and then formed its self in the shape of twilight town only in the form of darkness.(i know its insane because it sounds like worlds having nobody type things.

Woah woah woah. Are you saying that The World That Never Was is Twilight Town corrupted by darkness? They're completely separate worlds.

when Xemnas found the world he had his creature servants that appeared along with him build him a mighty castle. when it was finished he used his Nobodys(Soccerers) to create a room Xemnas named the room of Awakening with a pod like the one Ven was in before. Xemnas placed Ven in here hoping to somehow Awaken him someday.

Um. Xemnas didn't know where the Room of Awakening was, so how could be put Ven there?

awhile later Xemnas finds another pod in the waters of the Dark shore. he finds a bule haired girl in them sleeping. she seemed to be in the same type of state as Ven had been. but this girl seemed to have lost her memories completely. she wished she could remember but couldn't. Xemnas creates the room of sleep placing her in their hoping for her to regain her memories through sleep in dreams or other things. after she remember small fragments which took over a course of a few months Xemnas had formed Org 13. Xemnas awakens her and brings her into organization 13.

1. Why did he find it there?
2. What is the pod doing in the waters in the Dark shore?

(Okay this is just hypothecticly if Aqua was the 14th. the reason they have her is because she has a keyblade and can help achieve the goal. but when her memories return completely she remebers her past and wants to leave org 13 saying they are badguys and she plans to reveal there plans. Xemnas cannot alow this can he? no no no so he sends Roxas to kill number 14 because 14th trusts roxas so it will be easy. Roxas doesn't want to but Xemnas says he will kill him if he doesn't do it. Roxas kills 14TH explaining why she isn't in KH2. and maybe i was thinking that when Riku was poking around in WTNW he found a keyblade and took it. later her gives it to Kairi to fight with. little did they know it was Aqua's. the problem is that Aqua doesn't have the one kairi has in KH2FM secret ending other wise i think it could work. okay thats all for or now.......

Kairi's keyblade is kind of an extension of Riku's WtD. This was said in the Kh Novels. And why does the 14th member trust Roxas? Where are you getting all of this?

[Divine Light]

man you just pissed me off.......... remember what they said in KH2. it seems to be some kind of ALTERNATE TWILIGHT TOWN. and i said its crazy i know i was bored.

[The Twilight Prince]

Originally Posted by KHdude21

man you just pissed me off.......... remember what they said in KH2. it seems to be some kind of ALTERNATE TWILIGHT TOWN. and i said its crazy i know i was bored.

All I did was question your theory. It happens. <.< And the alternate Twilight Town they spoke of was not TWTNW, it was DiZ/Ansem the Wise's data Twilight Town.

[Divine Light]

btw vote on the poll its part of the deal.......but your probably gonna say its ridiclous so w/e....>.>

[The Twilight Prince]

Originally Posted by KHdude21

btw vote on the poll its part of the deal.......but your probably gonna say its ridiclous so w/e....>.>

Voted. And sorry, some people will like your theory, others won't. And almost everybody's theory has holes. It's no big deal. It just comes with theorizing.

[kairi1015]

Originally Posted by KHdude21

now i know its alittle far fetched and crazy but here it goes...

didn't it say pods in mansion looked like they had been used before when you examine them????? well i had alittle theory idea type thing going on. what if around BBS time after battle Ven got wounded as you knpw(that Darkness enjection and Freeze type thing) Aqua took him to their HQ and put him in a pod to sleep(can you see where this is going????) he slept he for years not aging and such. awhile later ATW found this pod and was perplexed and in wonderded about it. when he studied him he saw his heart had been injected with Darkness. after a long time ATW figured out how to remove the Darkness. his Apprentice Xehanort when facinated with darkness took his plunge into it he stole Ven from the pod and fled. Xehanort began to form his own Lab/Lair and tried to harness the power of the heartless. when he failed the heartless stole his heart. Xehanort now known as Xemnas awoke on the moonlit beach. memories mostly erased all he had of his past was a sleeping Ven with him. he found himself with odd powers and used them to his advantage. he created a corridor of darkness and entered it. he appeared in the World that Never was. long priviously Twilight Town was consumed by darkness. some keyblade wielder that lived in that time saved it from the darkness. but the darkness seemed to have a mind of its own and left Twilight Town before the wielder could destroy it. the darkness had absorbed Twilght towns essense and then formed its self in the shape of twilight town only in the form of darkness.(i know its insane because it sounds like worlds having nobody type things. when Xemnas found the world he had his creature servants that appeared along with him build him a mighty castle. when it was finished he used his Nobodys(Soccerers) to create a room Xemnas named the room of Awakening with a pod like the one Ven was in before. Xemnas placed Ven in here hoping to somehow Awaken him someday. awhile later Xemnas finds another pod in the waters of the Dark shore. he finds a bule haired girl in them sleeping. she seemed to be in the same type of state as Ven had been. but this girl seemed to have lost her memories completely. she wished she could remember but couldn't. Xemnas creates the room of sleep placing her in their hoping for her to regain her memories through sleep in dreams or other things. after she remember small fragments which took over a course of a few months Xemnas had formed Org 13. Xemnas awakens her and brings her into organization 13.(Okay this is just hypothecticly if Aqua was the 14th. the reason they have her is because she has a keyblade and can help achieve the goal. but when her memories return completely she remebers her past and wants to leave org 13 saying they are badguys and she plans to reveal there plans. Xemnas cannot alow this can he? no no no so he sends Roxas to kill number 14 because 14th trusts roxas so it will be easy. Roxas doesn't want to but Xemnas says he will kill him if he doesn't do it. Roxas kills 14TH explaining why she isn't in KH2. and maybe i was thinking that when Riku was poking around in WTNW he found a keyblade and took it. later her gives it to Kairi to fight with. little did they know it was Aqua's. the problem is that Kairi doesn't have the one Aqua has in KH2FM secret ending other wise i think it could work. okay thats all for or now.......


ROFL BTW i dont mean Ven sleeping in bed with him i mean lying knocked out next to him LOL.

Wow, what a surprising theory u have put together, I do understand some parts, but not all, but I think I will over the time being.

[The Conquerer]

I'm rusty but I'll give it a go.

didn't it say pods in mansion looked like they had been used before when you examine them????? well i had alittle theory idea type thing going on. what if around BBS time after battle Ven got wounded as you knpw(that Darkness enjection and Freeze type thing) Aqua took him to their HQ and put him in a pod to sleep(can you see where this is going????) he slept he for years not aging and such. awhile later ATW found this pod and was perplexed and in wonderded about it. when he studied him he saw his heart had been injected with Darkness. after a long time ATW figured out how to remove the Darkness. his Apprentice Xehanort when facinated with darkness took his plunge into it he stole Ven from the pod and fled. Xehanort began to form his own Lab/Lair and tried to harness the power of the heartless. when he failed the heartless stole his heart

Okay, it is true that the pods appeared to be used by others, but we have no proof that Aqua made it out in one piece. Of course it is possible, but how do we know that both Aqua and Ven made it back to safety? Also people do age while their in those pods, Sora is a great example of that. Also what would be the point of placing Ven in a pod? He was frozen, how would placing him in some kind of slumber help him? If I remember this right, Diz was the one who found the abandoned mansion and expanded it into some kind of laboratory. But you have the timing of events kind of off. Before Xehanort began his crazy experiments and sent Ansem into oblivion, Ansem nor Xehanort, had never been to Twilight Town. All of the experiments conducted in secret by Xehanort, was in the basement of Ansem's Castle, which would be in Radiant Garden, not Twilight Town. So it would be impossible from the get go to obtain Ven, accordingy to your theory, as Xehanort, as an apprentice of Ansem, never went to Twilight Town.

Xehanort began to form his own Lab/Lair and tried to harness the power of the heartless. when he failed the heartless stole his heart. Xehanort now known as Xemnas awoke on the moonlit beach. memories mostly erased all he had of his past was a sleeping Ven with him. he found himself with odd powers and used them to his advantage. he created a corridor of darkness and entered it. he appeared in the World that Never was. long priviously Twilight Town was consumed by darkness. some keyblade wielder that lived in that time saved it from the darkness. but the darkness seemed to have a mind of its own and left Twilight Town before the wielder could destroy it. the darkness had absorbed Twilght towns essense and then formed its self in the shape of twilight town only in the form of darkness.(i know its insane because it sounds like worlds having nobody type things. when Xemnas found the world he had his creature servants that appeared along with him build him a mighty castle.

Wrong. Xehanort never was over powered by the heartless. He chose to cast off his flesh so that he could travel the voids of darkness and accomplish his goals, such as understanding about the darkness, the hearts of worlds, heartless, etc. It had been stated in a Secret Ansem Report that nobodies are born in the world inbetween. Once the heart falls to darkness, the body which contains the soul is reborn else where. The body is reborn in Twlight Town where it is deemed a new being. Xemnas was not born in the realm of darkness, but it is true, he lost his memories, perhaps he is special, I mean Xehanort could not even recall his time before he lost his memories. It is almost expected. Although there is the room of sleep, but I won't get too deep into that right now. Also we can't prove a thing about Ven being with Xemnas right now. We don't know much about Twilight Town, except that it is stuck between the barriers of the world of light and darkness. We know hardly anything of its past. We also don't know much about the Keybladed warrior you talk about.. We can't discuss that as we have no past knowledge of such person.

Well I'm not sure about having his servents build The World that Never was, but he did say that he created it. It has something to do with his power of the nothingness.

when it was finished he used his Nobodys(Soccerers) to create a room Xemnas named the room of Awakening with a pod like the one Ven was in before. Xemnas placed Ven in here hoping to somehow Awaken him someday. awhile later Xemnas finds another pod in the waters of the Dark shore. he finds a bule haired girl in them sleeping. she seemed to be in the same type of state as Ven had been. but this girl seemed to have lost her memories completely. she wished she could remember but couldn't. Xemnas creates the room of sleep placing her in their hoping for her to regain her memories through sleep in dreams or other things. after she remember small fragments which took over a course of a few months Xemnas had formed Org 13. Xemnas awakens her and brings her into organization 13.(Okay this is just hypothecticly if Aqua was the 14th. the reason they have her is because she has a keyblade and can help achieve the goal. but when her memories return completely she remebers her past and wants to leave org 13 saying they are badguys and she plans to reveal there plans. Xemnas cannot alow this can he? no no no so he sends Roxas to kill number 14 because 14th trusts roxas so it will be easy. Roxas doesn't want to but Xemnas says he will kill him if he doesn't do it. Roxas kills 14TH explaining why she isn't in KH2. and maybe i was thinking that when Riku was poking around in WTNW he found a keyblade and took it. later her gives it to Kairi to fight with. little did they know it was Aqua's. the problem is that Kairi doesn't have the one Aqua has in KH2FM secret ending other wise i think it could work. okay thats all for or now.......

Well we don't know what power those nobodies held, but the room of awakening was in Radiant Garden. Actually when Xehanort was with his click, he was still under Ansem's teachings. It was said that Ansem forced the six apprentices to lock up the room, as it was too troublesome. After a great deal of time went buy, Xemnas re opened the room. The rest of your post is just conjecture. For all of that to make sense and be formed nicely, I'll need to see some back up statements and some information from the interviews, and from entries into the series. Also that little Keyblade thing at the end can't cut it. We've seen Aqua's Keyblade in the Secret Endings as well as in Final Mix+. It looked nothing like the Keyblade Kairi used.
It had been said in the novels that the Keyblade Riku gave to Kairi, just appeared like a lost memory and boom, there it was. So we can assume that the weapon has ties to what happened in the past, and the Keyblade's true owner may actually be Riku (although we can't be too sure at the moment, as anything could be possible)

Not a bad start, but I think you need to work on getting some more back up statements from the game and support them with reasons and evidence.