New Enemy Theroy

Sorax3 · January 20th, 2008, 03:32 PM

The enemy could be from light, but it is what happens when someone's heartless and nobody is defeated. But while still remaining to have a heart engulfed in darkness they don't turn back into a human, but into the new enemy.

Another idea is that it is formed when someone is overengulfed with light.
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King Mario · January 20th, 2008, 03:37 PM

The new enemy in BBS existed before heartless and nobodies did, so I don't think having a persons heartless and nobodies being defeated have anything to do with it.

Nothing happens when one gets "overengulfed" with light exept if their heartless, since the princesses of light have no darkness in their hearts and they didn't become the new enemy.

~~Genocide~~ · January 20th, 2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mario

The new enemy in BBS existed before heartless and nobodies did, so I don't think having a persons heartless and nobodies being defeated have anything to do with it.

Nothing happens when one gets "overengulfed" with light exept if their heartless, since the princesses of light have no darkness in their hearts and they didn't become the new enemy.

Quoted for truth. I was going to say the exact same.

The new enemy isn't a portion of a person like heartless and nobodies.

If the heartless is defeated before the nobody, they become whole again. Confirmed by Nomura

If the nobody is destroyed first, then they cease to non-exist.

General Xenos · January 20th, 2008, 05:12 PM

that wudnt make any sense, an enemy spanwed from the light, since wen can the light be used for evil????........(other than Roxas)

~~Yannis~~ · January 20th, 2008, 05:16 PM

No it isn´t light. From the facts we have;...

-New Emblem.
-Blue Enemies, Blue KH, Blue HEART of MX´s Keyblade.
-All "dead keyblades".
-It is Wild and Fast Enemy.

So from these facts I think that they are hearts of keyblades.

Check ~\\My Awesome BBS THEORY!//~

King Mario · January 20th, 2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by General Xenos

that wudnt make any sense, an enemy spanwed from the light, since wen can the light be used for evil????........(other than Roxas)

Acually Roxas is not evil...

canito_q · January 20th, 2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Yannis

No it isn´t light. From the facts we have;...

-New Emblem.
-Blue Enemies, Blue KH, Blue HEART of MX´s Keyblade.
-All "dead keyblades".
-It is Wild and Fast Enemy.

So from these facts I think that they are hearts of keyblades.

Check ~\\My Awesome BBS THEORY!//~

The game might have kinds of enemies, just like KH2.
One of them are the ones you told in your theory (it was really good:thumbsup:)
But I'm just thinking that the other enemy might the real humans that turned into heartless, and then nobodies

Mr. Wilhelm · January 20th, 2008, 05:52 PM

The theory could be good for KH3 if there was a third element inisde, but not for BBS...

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Originally Posted by General Xenos

that wudnt make any sense, an enemy spanwed from the light, since wen can the light be used for evil????........(other than Roxas)

-Zexion who used light to fool Riku in CoM
-Heartless we see in End of the World (born from a holly spell)

etc etc... Light can be evil but there is other thread for that.

♫ · January 20th, 2008, 06:37 PM

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-Zexion who used light to fool Riku in CoM

Zexion used the power of illusion to seem like Sora, and from that, he sent Riku to that 'light' realm we saw.

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-Heartless we see in End of the World (born from a holly spell)

That wasnt 'light' magic. Those were just heartless using magic to kill Sora and co.

Mr. Wilhelm · January 20th, 2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CHARGE

Zexion used the power of illusion to seem like Sora, and from that, he sent Riku to that 'light' realm we saw.

I am not sure, but Riku said something like he smelt his darkness and that his light couldn't cover it, something like that, there was illusion for taking the form of Sora, but Zexion really used Light for trying that Riku doesn't smell the Darkness.

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That wasnt 'light' magic. Those were just heartless using magic to kill Sora and co.

It is written in their profile they are born from an holy spell. Beside they use magic, but holy magic. Except if we can prove me that a holy spell is made of darkness, for me it proves that those heartless were using the light.

♫ · January 20th, 2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cid

I am not sure, but Riku said something like he smelt his darkness and that his light couldn't cover it, something like that, there was illusion for taking the form of Sora, but Zexion really used Light for trying that Riku doesn't smell the Darkness.

No, Zexion was hiding in the light, he says, "How did you find me in the light?" he was hoping that Riku couldnt find him. Riku said, "you reek of the dark. Even the light cant block away the smell."

Zexion simply teleported him to that light place, and Zexion hid, in hope that Riku couldnt find him concealed within the light. Zexion never uses the power of light.

Source: YouTube - Kingdom Hearts:Reverse/Rebirth-Destiny Islands

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Originally Posted by Cid

It is written in their profile they are born from an holy spell. Beside they use magic, but holy magic. Except if we can prove me that a holy spell is made of darkness, for me it proves that those heartless were using the light.

Can you provide a link?

Mr. Wilhelm · January 20th, 2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CHARGE

No, Zexion was hiding in the light, he says, "How did you find me in the light?" he was hoping that Riku couldnt find him. Riku said, "you reek of the dark. Even the light cant block away the smell."

Zexion simply teleported him to that light place, and Zexion hid, in hope that Riku couldnt find him concealed within the light. Zexion never uses the power of light.

Source: YouTube - Kingdom Hearts:Reverse/Rebirth-Destiny Islands

Indeed, it seems you are right.

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Can you provide a link?

If I remember well it is written in Jimminy's book, in KH1, that is written about like in this link : Heartless Bestiary That's the only link I found with description of this heartless, Angel Star... And it say well that it is born from an holy spell.

♫ · January 20th, 2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cid

If I remember well it is written in Jimminy's book, in KH1, that is written about like in this link : Heartless Bestiary That's the only link I found with description of this heartless, Angel Star... And it say well that it is born from an holy spell.

Unless this 'holy spell' is explained later on in the series, we cant say for sure if Angel is a dark heartless or a light one.

In FFXII Holy is a magic spell where you damage a foe. Holy has no elemental 'charge'.

Mr. Wilhelm · January 20th, 2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CHARGE

Unless this 'holy spell' is explained later on in the series, we cant say for sure if Angel is a dark heartless or a light one.

In FFXII Holy is a magic spell where you damage a foe. Holy has no elemental 'charge'.

But in most FF Holy is in White Magic category. In FFVIII it has white magic attribute, still it makes dammage, same in FFIX and X. And if I remember well, Mickey use those spell, and Minnie use them too, so I think we can think Holy is Light.

♫ · January 20th, 2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cid

But in most FF Holy is in White Magic category. In FFVIII it has white magic attribute, still it makes dammage, same in FFIX and X. And if I remember well, Mickey use those spell, and Minnie use them too, so I think we can think Holy is Light.

Well, until we know how KH perceives 'Holy' we can classify Angel as a normal heartless, because all heartless are creatures of the darkness...