The Meaning of 358/2 Days

Grace Assassin · 01/20/08, 03:05 AM

Unlike the many, many other people out there that thinks the title has to do with the number of days in the Organization for Roxas (/2 since he's half of Sora), I've decided that it does not have to do with Roxas. I know you're probably skeptical, but bear with me. Here's my reasoning.

First, before I say what I do think it means, I'll show what it doesn't. Upon first thought, I too believed that it had to do with Roxas' time in the Organization, and it seemed to make sense. The time between CoM and KH2 is 1 year (365 days); take away the 6 days Roxas had in virtual Twilight Town, and you have 359 days. Then there was a difference of opinion about that one extra day before it came to 358 days, but you get my point.

However, this does not make sense. Roxas spent OVER a year in the Organization, not under. How do I know? In the Final Mix+ scene where Roxas is "born", Xemnas immediately comes to him. So Roxas was taken into the Organization then, which was right after Sora stabbed himself with the Dark Keyblade. In other words, that's over a year. The rest of the days of Kingdom Hearts plus the year between CoM and KH2. For further proof, we see Roxas in one cutscene with all 12 other members in The Place Where Nothing Gathers (the meeting room). The only time all of them were together was before CoM, so, Roxas was in the Organization before CoM and thus definitely was there for well over 358 days. In any case, Nomura said you could only figure the message out by playing the game, and this is all based on knowledge that doesn't involve it.

Now that the Roxas theory is out of the way, what could the title mean? I know this is a leap of faith, but let's say, for all intents and purposes, it has to do with the 14th member. Don't hate me just yet.

This would mean that, if 358 days is the amount of time she was with the Organization, then she would have came at the end of CoM and stayed until Roxas left. The end of CoM... this means that she could have been involved with the "true goal" (as Nomura said) of Castle Oblivion; The Room of Awakening. And then, since it's 358 days, that's 7 days below a year, and Roxas was in the virtual Twilight Town for 6, so, in other words, she left the day before Roxas did. Or rather, the same day, as I'm pretty sure that would be the day Riku and Roxas fought... perhaps her goal was to make Roxas leave.

Actually, I think she's almost definitely involved with the Room of Awakening in this case. After CoM, Castle Oblivion is never revisited or anything. Wouldn't that mean that Xemnas achieved that secret goal and no longer had any use for Castle Oblivion? So, it must have been found at the end of CoM, which would be the same time the 14th came.

I doubt the 14th could be that other "friend"... but I have a good feeling that this ties in somehow. And that leaves the "/2" in the air as well...

Hybrid~Fusion · 01/20/08, 03:16 AM

Wow. Good theory. Yes, the days means the organization's daily life. So your point is correct (Rep+ to you.)

Zook · 01/20/08, 03:24 AM

very good thoughts, and I understand where your coming from, good job.

**Rhapsody** · 01/20/08, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Grace Assassin

Actually, I think she's almost definitely involved with the Room of Awakening in this case. After CoM, Castle Oblivion is never revisited or anything. Wouldn't that mean that Xemnas achieved that secret goal and no longer had any use for Castle Oblivion? So, it must have been found at the end of CoM, which would be the same time the 14th came.

I doubt the 14th could be that other "friend"... but I have a good feeling that this ties in somehow. And that leaves the "/2" in the air as well...

Room of Awakening and the other " friend" is refer to Ven...

Grace Assassin · 01/20/08, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince of Heart

Room of Awakening and the other " friend" is refer to Ven...

I hate how people state things as if they're facts.

While it definitely has a very good chance of being Ven, it's definitely still up in the air. And, in any case I said involved with the Room of Awakening and that I doubt she's the other friend.

General Xenos · 01/20/08, 03:35 AM

wow very good theory, i had thought of something like this but didnt take the time to complete it....:p

**Rhapsody** · 01/20/08, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Grace Assassin

I hate how people state things as if they're facts.

While it definitely has a very good chance of being Ven, it's definitely still up in the air. And, in any case I said involved with the Room of Awakening and that I doubt she's the other friend.

Hate if u want , i just saying what i think. Can?

**Freedom** · 01/20/08, 03:54 AM

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I doubt the 14th could be that other "friend"... but I have a good feeling that this ties in somehow. And that leaves the "/2" in the air as well...

While reading through the theory, i started to think this. Perhaps the /2 aplies to Roxas and the 14th member, which make two people.

Grace Assassin · 01/20/08, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince of Heart

Hate if u want , i just saying what i think. Can?

Yes. But it makes a boat load of a difference if you say "I think", "In my opinion", "My theory is", etc. The main point of this thread is to emphasize that at the very least, 358/2 Days is not what they thought it meant (if they believed the Roxas idea).

**Rhapsody** · 01/20/08, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Grace Assassin

Yes. But it makes a boat load of a difference if you say "I think", "In my opinion", "My theory is", etc. The main point of this thread is to emphasize that at the very least, 358/2 Days is not what they thought it meant (if they believed the Roxas idea).

And ur theory is.. 14th member?

Grace Assassin · 01/20/08, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince of Heart

And ur theory is.. 14th member?

Yes, which is why I said before it, "I know this is a leap of faith, but let's say, for all intents and purposes..."

I didn't say,

"358/2 Days IS FOR THE 14th MEMBER NOT ROXAS KTHNXBYE"

**Charlie K** · 01/20/08, 04:01 AM

But the game revolves around ROXAS and the Organization.

~azure.requiem · 01/20/08, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Grace Assassin

I hate how people state things as if they're facts.

~ i feel your pain. but anyways, this is a very well thought out theory. i'm happy that you didn't come up w/ some random crap and hurried up and posted it online 'cause it's your vewwy fust theowy *
*said in a squeeky voice

**Rhapsody** · 01/20/08, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Golden Knight

But the game revolves around ROXAS and the Organization.

That's what i mean... Uhh

khluva010 · 01/20/08, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Grace Assassin

This would mean that, if 358 days is the amount of time she was with the Organization, then she would have came at the end of CoM and stayed until Roxas left. The end of CoM... this means that she could have been involved with the "true goal" (as Nomura said) of Castle Oblivion; The Room of Awakening. And then, since it's 358 days, that's 7 days below a year, and Roxas was in the virtual Twilight Town for 6, so, in other words, she left the day before Roxas did. Or rather, the same day, as I'm pretty sure that would be the day Riku and Roxas fought... perhaps her goal was to make Roxas leave.

My thoughts exactly, good theory! :] and she's probably also the person to suggest to Roxas to find his true self.

01/20/08, 03:05 AM	#1
Grace Assassin MOAR. ® Join Date: May 2007 Location: ∵Иೆ!†तっФ」 Posts: 1,864 Rep Power: 5	The Meaning of 358/2 Days Unlike the many, many other people out there that thinks the title has to do with the number of days in the Organization for Roxas (/2 since he's half of Sora), I've decided that it does not have to do with Roxas. I know you're probably skeptical, but bear with me. Here's my reasoning. First, before I say what I do think it means, I'll show what it doesn't. Upon first thought, I too believed that it had to do with Roxas' time in the Organization, and it seemed to make sense. The time between CoM and KH2 is 1 year (365 days); take away the 6 days Roxas had in virtual Twilight Town, and you have 359 days. Then there was a difference of opinion about that one extra day before it came to 358 days, but you get my point. However, this does not make sense. Roxas spent OVER a year in the Organization, not under. How do I know? In the Final Mix+ scene where Roxas is "born", Xemnas immediately comes to him. So Roxas was taken into the Organization then, which was right after Sora stabbed himself with the Dark Keyblade. In other words, that's over a year. The rest of the days of Kingdom Hearts plus the year between CoM and KH2. For further proof, we see Roxas in one cutscene with all 12 other members in The Place Where Nothing Gathers (the meeting room). The only time all of them were together was before CoM, so, Roxas was in the Organization before CoM and thus definitely was there for well over 358 days. In any case, Nomura said you could only figure the message out by playing the game, and this is all based on knowledge that doesn't involve it. Now that the Roxas theory is out of the way, what could the title mean? I know this is a leap of faith, but let's say, for all intents and purposes, it has to do with the 14th member. Don't hate me just yet. This would mean that, if 358 days is the amount of time she was with the Organization, then she would have came at the end of CoM and stayed until Roxas left. The end of CoM... this means that she could have been involved with the "true goal" (as Nomura said) of Castle Oblivion; The Room of Awakening. And then, since it's 358 days, that's 7 days below a year, and Roxas was in the virtual Twilight Town for 6, so, in other words, she left the day before Roxas did. Or rather, the same day, as I'm pretty sure that would be the day Riku and Roxas fought... perhaps her goal was to make Roxas leave. Actually, I think she's almost definitely involved with the Room of Awakening in this case. After CoM, Castle Oblivion is never revisited or anything. Wouldn't that mean that Xemnas achieved that secret goal and no longer had any use for Castle Oblivion? So, it must have been found at the end of CoM, which would be the same time the 14th came. I doubt the 14th could be that other "friend"... but I have a good feeling that this ties in somehow. And that leaves the "/2" in the air as well...

01/20/08, 03:16 AM	#2
Hybrid~Fusion Warrior of Darkness Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Na frente de um PC brasileiro, e sabendo que ninguém entende isso.. ou quase ninguém. Age: 14 Posts: 176 Rep Power: 1	Re: The Meaning of 358/2 Days Wow. Good theory. Yes, the days means the organization's daily life. So your point is correct (Rep+ to you.)

01/20/08, 03:24 AM	#3
Zook Turn Your Back Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: on the toilet Age: 17 Posts: 2,113 Rep Power: 7	Re: The Meaning of 358/2 Days very good thoughts, and I understand where your coming from, good job.

01/20/08, 03:35 AM	#6
General Xenos Warrior of Darkness Join Date: Sep 2007 Age: 17 Posts: 164 Rep Power: 0	Re: The Meaning of 358/2 Days wow very good theory, i had thought of something like this but didnt take the time to complete it....:p

01/20/08, 04:01 AM	#12
Charlie K Golden Knight pssshh, Im Charlie K! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Dark Age: 15 Posts: 3,488 Rep Power: 5	Re: The Meaning of 358/2 Days But the game revolves around ROXAS and the Organization.

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