One of MX's Purpose

[Rufus Shinra]

It was just a thought : why MX wants absorb KH power? Having more power? XH wanted te ower of Darkness and their knowlowedge : I think likely MX already have it, Xemnas wanted find his heart, MX obviously has one. Being given the power that he posess, I really doubt he needs KH for doing what he wants, even if it can be usefull to him, and allow him to do his plan more easily, but I think he has a second purpose, which is more important for him that the first.

MX looks old, and must be old so. And maybe that, as powerfull that he is, in getting older he has more knowlowedge, but his body become less performing, and he goes nearest to the death. Of course in BBS he has maybe still many year to live, but getting older he thinks to it. I think so that MX wants absord the power of Kingdom Hearts for becoming young one more time, or maybe immortal, I don't know if it has been said before, maybe. But, the point is that I don't think MX would let all his chance to survive stay on KH, because as most baddy he wants to be independant as possible, and if KH fails, he needs another way to survive if he dies.

This way is the DS. He created the DS for him being a host for his soul if he dies, maybe for his heart too, even if I think they have only one heart, for MX being able to keep total control on DS. He created the DS, which is Xehanort as we see him in Fash Back from KHII. After, I don't know how he created the DS : he maybe wanted to create a replica of him and made it, when he was younger, or he wanted the perfect host for the case where he dies, and used the gene of many keyblader inside of only one body, maybe he used the gene of Terra too, but that is other hypothesis. The DS would be an human without any will, all what he does is what is "programmed" by MX.

Then, in the secret ending MX goes summon KH, I think once he will be granted by immortality he will do his other plan, it's why the VAT must abolutely stop him, the DS is used in battle for being sure to succeed, and they fight. At the very end, MX dies. Then, some kind of "security program" activate inside of DS, which orders him to go to the safest place possible.The DS does so, but he was weakened by the battle. Then, he arrives near Radiant Garden, and what MX planned work, he reincarnates inside of DS, but what he didn't think is that, it would block all of his memory.

Ansem find him, etc, and the reincarnation continue, still the memory doesn't come again, MX's past sleeps inside of DS body, which will awake one day, and make him reborn, what could maybe explain "born by sleep"...?

What do you think on it? I don't know if it has already been said before, and I know it is far from being perfect, but it is just a small theory ^^

[Keyblademastar]

This is a rather intertesting theory and in my opinion one the best. The explanation of how Xehanort is young and lost his body is quite plausible and I like it more than theory of Terra+MX=Xehanort. Nice Job!

[Ultima Fenrir]

I don't agree 100% with the theory but I really like the basic ideas.

[zeeshan]

i thought MX just wants kingdom hearts so he can create his own world

[SeaSalt IceCream]

Good theory, I do agree with MX wanting to be immortal as such. I'm not sure MX "created" as such DS but instead I see DS as some fool who was conned like Riku was in KH1. So I see MX kinda invading DS's heart. I think perhaps that DS is weakened too and decided to invade Terra cause of his strong heart, Hence the weird yellow glowing eyes. Then yes I know shame on me but Im going back to the whole theory that Xehanort is Terra theory cause of the eyes and also if this were to be true than It would explain why Xehanort invades Riku's heart...

Im probably way off here.

[The Twilight Prince]

Originally Posted by Ultima Fenrir

I don't agree 100% with the theory but I really like the basic ideas.

Same here. There are some slight holes, but it sounds plausible. But we're not 100% sure that MX "created" the DS or not. The fact that he spawned from him in the secret video could mean any number of things. Or nothing at all. Just look at the Kh2 trailer where Roxas came out of the rock to talk to Xemnas on the beach. He had a glowing eye and the heartless symbol on his chest when he first came out.

[Hanzo]

I don't get any of this at all.

[Xerrat]

Hm, one thing I haven't been able to figure out in the Terra+MX=Xehanort is WHY Terra's eyes would have glowed.
[spoiler] Riku, as we know, had been possessed before. In the world of KH, that is possible,
at least for Heartless. But before Heartless Ansem was revealed to be in control,
Riku was by no means physically changed. His eyes weren't orange,
all he wore was the armour/suit. Either way, the physical changes didn't manifest
immediately, as we are assuming in the case of Terra. Perhaps the Heartless wanted
to keep a low profile, but this reason looks ridiculous in the context of the game. I mean,
shortly after, he reveals himself to Sora and all of his plans, so it's not like he feared Sora and his companions. [/spoiler]

Secondly, if Master Xehanort and the Dark Soldier were walloping Ven, Aqua and Terra so easily as seen in the concept video, why on Earth would Master Xehanort wish to weaken himself by fusing or possessing a being that he sees as being insignificant and weak? If Terra had a 'strong heart', and Keyblade-wielders fought with their hearts, why did the battle go against VAT? In any case, possessing Terra would have had to have been forced or accidental in light of that. And Master Xehanort, at that point in the video, looked thoroughly in charge.

[Xendrassk]

Cool theory....I don't agree 100% though. Master Xehanort's intentions were clear...Obtain the power of Kingdom Hearts. The reason behind it is still unclear. Terra's eyes glowed only when kingdom Hearts was exposed...and maybe Xehanort(kh2) upon research out of wanting to know his past...released his own body, knowing it was going to seperate and as Xemnas, he would find his past from his 'unlocked' heart. I believe his heartless was mimicking memory. The memory of Xehanort? maybe....Xehanort is complex.

[Xendrassk]

I would explain further...but my PSP can only go but so far...bits and pieces of my thoughts on it, but it was a bit vague. About Xemnas finding clues(past?) and his heart through Kingdom Hearts.

[Rufus Shinra]

Well, true, maybe DS wasn't created and was just somebody like Riku, we can't really believe everything intervening in concept video. Still, maybe MX did on him some genetic experiment, for him being a perfect host in the case where MX dies, and it is how he became Xehanort's "body" as we see it in KH II.
Me too I don't really like the idea of MX + Terra = Xehanort, so saying that MX made genetic experiment fro creating/modifying an human seem possible if we see similarties between Xehanort and MX, and Xehanort and Terra.

For Terra's eyes glowing, I think he posess a power similar Saix's one. No connection between them, but they just have a power in common, I know it looks simple, but well...

[rikufan06]

Wow
your really uhh
detail-ish

[Valley of Chrome]

It was just a thought : why MX wants absorb KH power? Having more power? XH wanted te ower of Darkness and their knowlowedge : I think likely MX already have it, Xemnas wanted find his heart, MX obviously has one. Being given the power that he posess, I really doubt he needs KH for doing what he wants, even if it can be usefull to him, and allow him to do his plan more easily, but I think he has a second purpose, which is more important for him that the first.

Who said that MX wants to absorb KH?
And KH isn't the power of darkness.
What's the second purpose?

MX looks old, and must be old so. And maybe that, as powerfull that he is, in getting older he has more knowlowedge, but his body become less performing, and he goes nearest to the death. Of course in BBS he has maybe still many year to live, but getting older he thinks to it. I think so that MX wants absord the power of Kingdom Hearts for becoming young one more time, or maybe immortal, I don't know if it has been said before, maybe. But, the point is that I don't think MX would let all his chance to survive stay on KH, because as most baddy he wants to be independant as possible, and if KH fails, he needs another way to survive if he dies.

Maybe.
And he doesn't look like he's gonna die.
Also, we haven't seen KH turn someone young.

This way is the DS. He created the DS for him being a host for his soul if he dies, maybe for his heart too, even if I think they have only one heart, for MX being able to keep total control on DS. He created the DS, which is Xehanort as we see him in Fash Back from KHII. After, I don't know how he created the DS : he maybe wanted to create a replica of him and made it, when he was younger, or he wanted the perfect host for the case where he dies, and used the gene of many keyblader inside of only one body, maybe he used the gene of Terra too, but that is other hypothesis. The DS would be an human without any will, all what he does is what is "programmed" by MX.

DS looks like he's not someone that's created.
Ven and DS could have a relationship.
Like how Ven said in Destiny Island.
This could be pointing to him.

Then, in the secret ending MX goes summon KH, I think once he will be granted by immortality he will do his other plan, it's why the VAT must abolutely stop him, the DS is used in battle for being sure to succeed, and they fight. At the very end, MX dies. Then, some kind of "security program" activate inside of DS, which orders him to go to the safest place possible.The DS does so, but he was weakened by the battle. Then, he arrives near Radiant Garden, and what MX planned work, he reincarnates inside of DS, but what he didn't think is that, it would block all of his memory.

Well, MX wasn't even scratched by VAT.
I doubt it.
I guess Mickey will be some kind of help..

Ansem find him, etc, and the reincarnation continue, still the memory doesn't come again, MX's past sleeps inside of DS body, which will awake one day, and make him reborn, what could maybe explain "born by sleep"...?

Possible.
Also, It's birth by sleep not born by sleep.

[Rufus Shinra]

Originally Posted by keybearer

Who said that MX wants to absorb KH?
And KH isn't the power of darkness.
What's the second purpose?

Well, that is part of the theory. Though, it seem he want absorb it or use it at least, i don't know. Still, MX would be interested by the Darkness in KH, even if true, KH is not only Darkness. The second purpose can be anything : dive universe in darkness, becoming ruler of universe, destroy everything, I really don't know, and that is not really important I think, for explaining my theory at least, it is of course very important in BBS.

Maybe.
And he doesn't look like he's gonna die.
Also, we haven't seen KH turn someone young.

Like I said, he is not going to die immediately, but he get older, and since he has still the possibility to act, he does it before getting too old. Beside, even if we didn't see KH does this, maybe it is one of its possibilty. Or not younger but at least granting him with immortality. I think, just hypothesis, that KH can grant, if not immortality, a longer life.

DS looks like he's not someone that's created.
Ven and DS could have a relationship.
Like how Ven said in Destiny Island.
This could be pointing to him

Well, we don't know, maybe he was created many year ago, and maybe there is a relationship, but nothing is still sure. It could be one of the issue of MX plan, DS began to develop some kind of soul, maybe, or just MX who ordered to DS to make think to Ven he had a friend in DS, for some of his purpose...?
Or like it has been said, DS is somebody like Riku's was. And, I think MX would have done on him some genetical experiment, etc etc.

Well, MX wasn't even scratched by VAT.
I doubt it.
I guess Mickey will be some kind of help.

Well, it could be because of what did Terra at the end, or something which went wrongwith KH, or like you said, Mickey helping.
I think he will help, true, but honestly, I am not sure he could do better than VAT together, except if they can fight the 4 together against a weakened MX (KH accident maybe?)

Possible.
Also, It's birth by sleep not born by sleep.

Ah, I mistaked, thanks for correcting.

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by Hanzo

I don't get any of this at all.

Me neither.

No one else is going to know whats the plot is in BBS if they keep guessing at it.