I know who DS is!!!

[Seikay]

You know I just watched the trailer again and I noticed something. DS and Riku's Heartless outfit from KH1 are the same exept for colors. Which must mean something like MX took control over his heart or something, or fused with him. Idc just figures I would say something about their outfits looking alike.

[Xerrat]

Originally Posted by Xirsch_2

First of all, regarding Xehanort, he remembered absolutely nothing but the name "Xehanort", not what he had to do. Unless the whole "fake amnesia" theory is to be believed, then he couldn't have remembered what MX did. .

Fake amnesia isn't so hard to believe - all the proof we have is from Ansem the Wise, and he was merely an observer. While Ansem was, well, WISE, he could have easily been fooled by a mix of Terra/Master Xehanort or Dark Soldier/Master Xehanort. Why 'Xehanort' would lie? Perhaps he was still reeling from defeat at the hands of Ven, Terra and Aqua and needed time to regroup and build his power? Eh, who truly knows? All we have are vague facts, inferences and speculation!

[The Twilight Prince]

Originally Posted by Xerrat

Fake amnesia isn't so hard to believe - all the proof we have is from Ansem the Wise, and he was merely an observer. While Ansem was, well, WISE, he could have easily been fooled by a mix of Terra/Master Xehanort or Dark Soldier/Master Xehanort. Why 'Xehanort' would lie? Perhaps he was still reeling from defeat at the hands of Ven, Terra and Aqua and needed time to regroup and build his power? Eh, who truly knows? All we have are vague facts, inferences and speculation!

I was thinking that too. Because in one of the Ansem reports, AtW states "How did Xehanort open that door that appeared in the basement of my lab..?" or something. Either way. I'm thinking that maybe Xehanort remembers somewhat that he can use the keyblade and he used his (whoever he is) keyblade to unlock this "door" that appeared. Its really strange. Just look at Xemnas' weapons. You would think that maybe he would use keyblades too if Xehanort could, but his light saber thingies aren't as unique as the other 11 members yknow? His are just like. Swords of light. Maybe he CHOSE not to use them or something. x.x;

[Yannis]

Originally Posted by Xerrat

Fake amnesia isn't so hard to believe - all the proof we have is from Ansem the Wise, and he was merely an observer. While Ansem was, well, WISE, he could have easily been fooled by a mix of Terra/Master Xehanort or Dark Soldier/Master Xehanort. Why 'Xehanort' would lie? Perhaps he was still reeling from defeat at the hands of Ven, Terra and Aqua and needed time to regroup and build his power? Eh, who truly knows? All we have are vague facts, inferences and speculation!

I personally have the picture of Xehanort(ATW´s apprentice) as a naive pupil, who did not listen to his master. Everyone probably seen the flashback and you can say from it that Xehanort really wasnt evil, he was only so exited about his experiment..

No chance of fake amnesia.

Ansem(Xehanort´s heartless) wasnt also aware of Xehanort´s past. He typed himself only as a seeker of darkness. And I had a picture of him as a studiet person, who was very interested in darkness. Not a chance remembering about times of MX, DS and Terra.

Xemnas had only the memories of Xehanort starting from the time, when ATW found Xehanort. It is clear. Theories saying that in some part Xehanort remembered his past, is nonsense. Think about it.

[Xerrat]

I figured Heartless retain very little in terms of memories when they loose their hearts - just take a look at the common shadow, and every other heartless minion we've encountered in the game. They may have a few (maybe the strongest memories possessed) but as a whole they are driven by instinct.

Perhaps I saw the same cutscene from a different angle - I saw Xehanort trying to con Ansem the Wise into continuing experiments on darkness, into researching the power it contained.

[Yannis]

Originally Posted by Xerrat

I figured Heartless retain very little in terms of memories when they loose their hearts - just take a look at the common shadow, and every other heartless minion we've encountered in the game. They may have a few (maybe the strongest memories possessed) but as a whole they are driven by instinct.

You are right.

IMO Xehanort wasnt evil, he was just an ordinary guy who made mistakes. Of course not actually an ordinary guy, since he possessed supernatural powers. =) MX is pure evil, that´s what everyone can be sure about^^

[Rhapsody]

Originally Posted by Thraxe

Ansem(Xehanort´s heartless) wasnt also aware of Xehanort´s past. He typed himself only as a seeker of darkness. And I had a picture of him as a studiet person, who was very interested in darkness. Not a chance remembering about times of MX, DS and Terra.

Xemnas had only the memories of Xehanort starting from the time, when ATW found Xehanort. It is clear. Theories saying that in some part Xehanort remembered his past, is nonsense. Think about it.

You mean Xehanort's heartless has no memories of past? Then how bout KH? o-o
I mean he knew a lot of things about darkness and KH

[Yannis]

Originally Posted by OneWingHeartless

You mean Xehanort's heartless has no memories of past? Then how bout KH? o-o
I mean he knew a lot of things about darkness and KH

He had studiet them after he was born under the name of Ansem.

BUT!

As you may know, KH is the heart of all worlds. I am saying that Xehanort´s heartless remembers everything from the moment when ATW found Xehanort. He is basically Xehanort. ATW was studying the heart of all worlds with Xehanort, so Xehanort´s heartless remembers this.

It is important to know that Ansem is Xehanort. He has the same memories, but his goal was twisted, because heartless are driven by an instinct to find more hearts. And KH is like veeery big cake

[Rhapsody]

Originally Posted by Thraxe

He had studiet them after he was born under the name of Ansem.

BUT!

As you may know, KH is the heart of all worlds. I am saying that Xehanort´s heartless remembers everything from the moment when ATW found Xehanort. He is basically Xehanort. ATW was studying the heart of all worlds with Xehanort, so Xehanort´s heartless remembers this.

It is important to know that Ansem is Xehanort. He has the same memories, but his goal was twisted, because heartless are driven by an instinct to find more hearts. And KH is like veeery big cake

K. It seem that Xehanort's heartless doesn't remember ATW at all..lol
He only remember about darkness, all those stuff..
Still, i guess he is MX.

[Yannis]

Originally Posted by OneWingHeartless

K. It seem that Xehanort's heartless doesn't remember ATW at all..lol
He only remember about darkness, all those stuff..
Still, i guess he is MX.

Yup, Im not sure too if he can remember his time as ATW´s apprentice. At least he is the only heartless with ability to speak.

So you probably think that Ansem is MX because they have similar clothes?;) lol, this is little bit a joke, but with that logic, wouldnt Sora in KH2 be Ven, when they have similar clothes;D

[Rhapsody]

MX and Xehanort's heartless 's cloth are the same if i'm not mistaken and if i wasn't drunk to see it wrongly..lol
No.. not just their cloth is similar.. but their face too..and both of them love Kingdom Heart stuff..

[king_mickey rule]

Originally Posted by OneWingHeartless

MX and Xehanort's heartless 's cloth are the same if i'm not mistaken and if i wasn't drunk to see it wrongly..lol
No.. not just their cloth is similar.. but their face too..and both of them love Kingdom Heart stuff..

Who doesn't love Kingdom Hearts stuff LOL
Yeah, their face are a little alike but that doesn't mean they are the same. I think they are just connected to each other but not the same person.

[Rhapsody]

^ Obviously they are connected.. just dunno they are the same person or not..
Lol.. i know.. everyone love Kingdom Hearts.. i mean maybe they use Kingdom hearts for the same purpose.

[khmaster101]

Just make sure ur facts are straight next time but its alright.

[Yannis]

Originally Posted by OneWingHeartless

MX and Xehanort's heartless 's cloth are the same if i'm not mistaken and if i wasn't drunk to see it wrongly..lol
No.. not just their cloth is similar.. but their face too..and both of them love Kingdom Heart stuff..

They arent almost the same. Ansem has those yellow parts in his jacket and his white shirt is opened and there is a heartless symbol. =D

Who knows, maybe it is like this:

We have seen KH#1: It was the Heart of all worlds
We have also seen KH#2: It was the heart of all men(humans)

Person is gathered from three pieces in KH; body, soul and heart.

Maybe MX made that blue KH, which is the Heart of all bodies!!! So he can get new body! Then when he got new young body, he also lost his memories!!! And maybe he fused with Terra, who knows for sure?!? Nomura of course, but it´s different story lol =D