kingdom hearts bbs theory

[fallen soul]

Absolutely not. Maleficent gave Riku the Soul Eater if i'm not mistaken. That or Xehanort's heartless gave it to him. As Xehanort's heartless DID wield a double edged Soul Eater in the final battle in Kh1. Thus eliminating the possibility of your theory.

Wrong, if you hadn't been hastey you would have remembered that Ansem had possession of Rikus body, heart and soul, so he would have physical form. (curious thought, if he had a body even if one not his own, would he not be classified as a human rather than heartless)
Also we don't know where riku got the soul eater from.

That video was purely symbolism. WtD did NOT exist until Kh2, when it formed from the soul eater. And why would Ven's keyblade become Rikus' anyways? Ven only picked it up to show his connection to Twilight.

And why was the kingdom key meant to go to Riku? The keyblades had previous owners, and when passed on if unable to go to the one it is meant to it goes to one with a strong enough heart to weild it. And theoretically the only characters existant at the time with a strong enough heart, as far as we know, were Riku, Sora (who already had a keyblade) and Mickey (in a whole different realm)... maybe Yen sid too.

But remember that that scene is to be part of the actual game so why have the symbolism? Come on, it would mean erasing all of these details it just doesn't make much sense anymore for them being symbolism, when BBS was in construction before the trailer

[Prince of Heart]

Originally Posted by Ultima Fenrir

Possible, but unlikely. But then again the Ultima Weapon in kh2, looks nothing like the one in kh. That's probably irrelevant though.

The ultima weapon in KH2 look like MX's keyblade..
lol

[Twilight kingdom]

Well about the thread, i don't think that VAT is Yen Sid's apprentices because, i'm not sure this is true but, i think that VAT's master would be a bigger character, seeing as how legendary they are. Well to me they're legendary

[Prince of Heart]

But Mickey could be YenSid's student..

[Hanzo]

Well what i meant was the Mickey's Star Seeker keyblade is different than Sora's Star Seeker keyblade.

[Prince of Heart]

Really? i thought both are the same..? O_O

[The Twilight Prince]

Originally Posted by fallen soul

Wrong, if you hadn't been hastey you would have remembered that Ansem had possession of Rikus body, heart and soul, so he would have physical form. (curious thought, if he had a body even if one not his own, would he not be classified as a human rather than heartless)
Also we don't know where riku got the soul eater from.

*sigh* I remember that, but if YOU had taken the very advice about hastiness that you just advised me of, you would remember that in the final battle with Xehanorts heartless with the big castle looking thing, he was no longer in possession of Riku.

And why was the kingdom key meant to go to Riku? The keyblades had previous owners, and when passed on if unable to go to the one it is meant to it goes to one with a strong enough heart to weild it. And theoretically the only characters existant at the time with a strong enough heart, as far as we know, were Riku, Sora (who already had a keyblade) and Mickey (in a whole different realm)... maybe Yen sid too.

It was. It's been confirmed by Nomura himself that Riku was supposed to be the Kingdom Key's true wielder. However, he opened his heart to darkness, and it was weaker than Sora's that night on Destiny Islands, thus why it chose him and not Riku. And that is also why later, Riku can take the keyblade from Sora and not have it woosh itself back to him. I'm referring to the time in Traverse Town FYI. When Riku takes it without Sora's knowing and says "So this is a keyblade?" At that time, it doesn't go right back to Sora. Riku in fact has to toss it back to him.

What about Kairi? She had a keyblade in Kh2. She was around. And those are the only characters in Kh 1 and 2 WITH keyblades so of course they're the only ones around. And Yen Sid having a keyblade? Dare I ask where you're getting that from?

But remember that that scene is to be part of the actual game so why have the symbolism? Come on, it would mean erasing all of these details it just doesn't make much sense anymore for them being symbolism, when BBS was in construction before the trailer

The gathering (The scene from Kh2) isn't the one from the game. The secret ending from Kh2FM+ is the one from the game. They DO NOT pick up those keyblades in the game. Way to Dawn did not exist. And it makes perfect sense for it to by symbolism. It's to show VAT's connections to Light, Darkness and Twilight.

Terra-Light
Aqua-Darkness
Ven-Twilight

WtD did not exist until Riku came along. And you still haven't answered my other question. How is it possible that Ven wielded both his key and WtD if one was formed from the other?

And how do you suppose that works? BBS being in construction before the trailer about it? Maybe the one from Kh2FM, but I highly doubt he was working that far into the game when the one from Kh2 was out. And even if he was, what makes you think that has anything to do with the WtD thing? And they didn't erase details, they took out the keys that VAT picked up because they weren't important save for the connection they were showing.

Remeber the Kh2 trailers? Roxas was the glowing eye unknown and the dual wielding unknown. Roxas' eyes never did one glow in Kh2, and in the trailer he had the heartless symbol on his chest for a split second when he came from the rock. He doesn't in the game. They take things out. Its called development and planning. They don't always use everything they put in the first trailer.

[V.A.T.13]

Originally Posted by OneWingHeartless

Really? i thought both are the same..? O_O

They are the same as far as we know. Hanzo just likes to pull things out of his ass. = 3=

[dragonmaster]

I heard that the BBS characters have some ties to Riku, Kari, and Sora. I wonder if this is true.

[Golden Knight]

It is. Nomaru confirmed it, I think..But yea they do.

[HadesDragon]

Originally Posted by fallen soul

But remember that that scene is to be part of the actual game so why have the symbolism? Come on, it would mean erasing all of these details it just doesn't make much sense anymore for them being symbolism, when BBS was in construction before the trailer

I don't think you've ever heard of the words "concept video" before. Basically Nomura just made the video to throw some ideas around, that's all.

Just compare Deep Dive, which was a concept video, and how much of it ended up in KH2 exactly like it was intended. A lot of stuff was removed/changed. Roxas' glowing eyes meant nothing, for one thing.

It IS true that Gathering is closer to the final product than Deep Dive was, but that doesn't mean it'll be exactly like that in the game, because Nomura is prone to changing his mind. Especially those keyblades. Like Xirsch pointed out, WtD could have certainly not existed at that time, and your theory is pretty iffy.

[V.A.T.13]

Like Xirsch pointed out, WtD could have certainly not existed at that time, and your theory is pretty iffy.

Sure it could! It could of been "re-born" again! *wiggles fingers*


....Sorry, just trying to pick a fight. D: