Possible Number XIV Identity -EVIDENCE!!-

[SORA619]

i think this is a good theory. i agree with you

[Eagl]

Lack of Mention
In all the interviews since the announcement of BBS, 358/2 Days, and Coded, Nomura-san has not mentioned Aqua's name ONCE. All this coincides with the recent revelation of Number XIV. We all know that Aqua is a playable character in BBS, but why hasn't Nomura said her name? Think about it.

Well she isnt a confirmed playable charachter. And what if she hasnt a very big part in BBS.

Keyblade Choice
The Keyblade she chose in the English SE was Mickey's Keyblade. Perhaps her choice of Keyblade reveals what path she takes after her comrades are defeated by Master Xehanort. Mickey, if we look back, entered the Realm of Darkness, found Kingdom Key Darkside (yes, that is it's confirmed name), and impersonated an Organization member in KH: CoM and part of KHII. Aqua may have done a little undercover work herself *nudge nudge wink wink*.

That video was just a concept video. Some things in the video maybe isnt in the game at all. Xemnas dragon ( or it looked like it) was in it.

Chamber scene in KHII FM+
We all saw the scene in FM+ where Xemnas opens the Chamber of Sleep in the bowels of Radiant Garden, where he has a little convo with our dear Aqua's armor. Signs of schizophrenia? I think NOT! I know it sounds like Xemnas has lost his marbles (and then some), but why would he just visit the Chamber out of the blue? Because. Aqua joined the Organization for a short time then disappeared (due to some mysterious event), and Xemnas was without his lady friend. So he opened the Chamber of Sleep and visited with her remnants. Why armor though? To dawn the Organization persona, she had to do away with her former threads. So when she disppears, he visits the place where she was "awakened" and tossed her past duds.

The word friend is used sarcasmly. Aqua could just as well be Xemnas enemy. Or it s so that he starts to remeber his past. It could be that Master Xehanort and DS joined together or something or MX took over Terras body and they two became Xehanort Ansems apprentice.

Organization XIII...not XIV
Simple. The Organization didn't change their name because Aqua wasn't a real Nobody. In fact, she wasn't a Nobody at all. Xemnas awakened her to aid him with the "Roxas problem", since Aqua would know him best (seeing as she and Ven had a little thing goin' on). When her mission was finished with, she suddenly vanished. So they remained Organization XIII because Number XIV wasn't even a Nobody.

Well I doubt the Roxas problem. And they would have noticed she wasnt a nobody from the beginning.

Left Alive
Plain and simple. Aqua was the only one left slightly unharmed at the end of the Birth By Sleep SE. Ven froze, and Terra's eyes went yellow. We don't really see what happens to her, besides her being left to hold poor little frozen Ven. She was still alive after that, and she is Number XIV.[/quote]

Well you can be right about that. But also both of them mayvbe survived. Terra maybe can use his darkness power fully wihtout letting darkness take over it.

[xickae]

I agree with you in every aspect, but there's something bordering me: isn't Aqua supposed to be older than the 14th member seems to be??????

The 14th member seems to have about Naminé's age (I'm NOT saying the 14th member is Naminé), and we all know that BBS happened 10 years before KHI (and therefore 385/2 Days) and at that time Aqua already seems to be older than (or at least as old as) Kairi from KHII.

But all in all it could be her.

[key of darkness]

that was a really good theory
i just dont understand why she left the organization or was she killed
and remember when roxas was leaving the organization axel said they will destroy him that means someone tried to leave

[Destiny's End]

IF Aqua was number XIV, then I would think the only plausable reason she joined Org XIII was that she figured out Xemnas was the nobody of Xehanort, who had at least some of Master Xehanort within him and was planning to kill him...

Even if that were true, wouldn't part of the Xehnaort in Xemnas know that Aqua might be looking for revenge?

BBS was not finished, so there is no proof in saying that Aqua was left alive because she could have easily been killed... Point moot...

How do we explain her armor in Radiant Garden? Besides, I think she's still alive. Myabe When Terra's Eyes changed color, he knew that he couldn't control himself so told Aqua to take Ven and leave because he couldn't be held responsible for his following action. Just a theory of mine anyway.

[Ultima Scorpio]

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Lol watch out for these two...

Destiny's End, you are awesome. Thank you! You too Ethy. And ven.

On the aspect of aging...well, she could've been 15 or 16 during BBS, then joined the Organization when she was 25 or 26.

[RikusNobody89]

does anyone know where I can find these pics of the 14th Organization member?

[OmniChaos]

Even if that were true, wouldn't part of the Xehnaort in Xemnas know that Aqua might be looking for revenge?

Possibly... But because of memory loss, he might have known her, but might not known if she was friend or foe...

How do we explain her armor in Radiant Garden? Besides, I think she's still alive. Myabe When Terra's Eyes changed color, he knew that he couldn't control himself so told Aqua to take Ven and leave because he couldn't be held responsible for his following action. Just a theory of mine anyway.

Xemnas could have found it and brought it back there to help recover his memories...

[Axel's Fire]

Chamber scene in KHII FM+

We all saw the scene in FM+ where Xemnas opens the Chamber of Sleep in the bowels of Radiant Garden, where he has a little convo with our dear Aqua's armor. Signs of schizophrenia? I think NOT! I know it sounds like Xemnas has lost his marbles (and then some), but why would he just visit the Chamber out of the blue? Because. Aqua joined the Organization for a short time then disappeared (due to some mysterious event), and Xemnas was without his lady friend. So he opened the Chamber of Sleep and visited with her remnants. Why armor though? To dawn the Organization persona, she had to do away with her former threads. So when she disppears, he visits the place where she was "awakened" and tossed her past duds.

Yeah I just wanted to point something out about this. When Xemnas was talking to the armor, the Organization currently had 11 members ( Xigbar says this in the scene where he is talking to Zexion in the Word that Never Was). So what I don't get is how could she be the 14th if there were only 11 Nobodies @ the time?

[Freedom]

Look in my sig. >_> noob...

[OmniChaos]

Yeah I just wanted to point something out about this. When Xemnas was talking to the armor, the Organization currently had 11 members ( Xigbar says this in the scene where he is talking to Zexion in the Word that Never Was). So what I don't get is how could she be the 14th if there were only 11 Nobodies @ the time?

Two different times...
The in game video we saw with Xemnas going down into the Room of Sleep happened in KH2, the conversation between Xigbar and Zexion happened before or during KH1...

[Woodaba]

SHUT UP YOU DAMN RIPPERS!
Absaloutley outstanding theory but you need to check your facts.

[Gabo]

Sorry if this has already been brought up, but its not as if I haven't already seen alot of repition on this thread yet.

Firstly
Skin color doesn't matter, obviously. Just as someone had mentioned, DiZ's skin color was way off, until he revealed himself to be Ansem the Wise. Then he was beyond pale.

Secondly
Nomura did say it was a new character...Some people seem to have the idea that Aqua is an Old Character...Shes not! Aside from FMs secret ending, she wasnt even seen, nor have we heard her name aloud in an actualy game. She can still fit the role of the new Girl.

Thirdly
No name change to Organization could be for various reasons...They didn't change the name after Roxas left, and it was apparent he wasn't coming back. Secondly, it could be a whole Namine situation all over again. Just because another Nobody was aligned with the Organization, that didn't really mean that they had her confirmed as a member...Idk..Wait, was she confirmed as a member, or simply an ally? I dont remember.

Fourthly
Aqua being in the Organization/allied with it is better than other theories we've heard of...I remember prior to KH2s release, Kairi was suspected to be in the Organization just because of a pose...So there have been some stupid theories that were accepted by many, and this one is by far better backed up than that one.

Finally
The relationship between Mickey and Aqua.Anything in KH1, you can't really look upon, in my opinion, since they were uncertain of a sequel. But anything in COM and after, I think we can suspect has meaning. Aqua picking up Mickey's keyblade has signifigance that only a fool can say doesn't have any meaning. Hopefully thats not flaming...When Mickey is shown in the end of that trailer, he doesn't have his standard Keyblade..It wouldnt be unreasonable for him to believe that he received the new Keyblade from Aqua afterwards...
We can also look at the thing with Organization XIII and Mickey...Mickey clearly had someone giving him knowledge about the Organization...If that person was say...Aqua, then it would be reasonable to say if she got caught, she may just be killed.

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[Chevalier Sombre]

Originally Posted by Woodaba

SHUT UP YOU DAMN RIPPERS!

Who exactly are you addressing with this? I'm inclined to think you mean Omni and I. If so, why should we? If not, I still ask why. Are we/they doing something wrong?

does anyone know where I can find these pics of the 14th Organization member?

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Only picture we have so far.

[L337 kybldmstr]

Originally Posted by AsYrsGoBy

...Mickey clearly had someone giving him knowledge about the Organization...If that person was say...Aqua, then it would be reasonable to say if she got caught, she may just be killed.

That's a good theory, but couldn't it have been Yen Sid who told Mickey about the Org? Just my thoughts.