Not Existing???

[Black Amaranth]

Maybe they do exst, and they're just not supposed to. Namine said that to Roxas, didn't she?
Namine: "The truth is... you were never supposed to exist."
Roxas: "How can you say that?"

Or something like that.

[Zexionia]

Starting w/ Kersha Fangs just because her post urged me the most to reply..

I believe u said that a Nobody is non existing because.. what was the reaso.. oh yes u said they were never born. IMO.. wrong.. nothing can exist without a cause.. the fact that their originals had their hearts stolen created them.. born if u will.. Cause and Effect.. Cause-stolen heart Effect- a nobody was born.

I believe that Keywielder94 said..

Its like burning wood the wood is the original and the ashe left behind is the nobody..
This is a good and not so good example my friend.. Yes the point you make is true but.. it just doesn't fit.. U said that they r just fragments.. well fragments are still there are they not? So it is a part of something of something that did exist..

Take this for example.. Smake a glass and pic up a peice and call it a nobody.. does that glass exist? YES!! why because it is/was part of something that is real! you can't just go Iki tici Ala Kapuf and make it vanish and say that the space were that peice of fragment of glass was was a nobody.. it just doesn't work like that.. and don't anyone try and tell me that it was like that in the game.... My first example of the glass before still being in ur hand works better then that load of crap i just wrote..

xazure777x....

Urs is the wierdest yet.. Still they are there.. u look at you shadow and tell me it doesn't exist.. and even if i Roxas were to do and sora died too.. then that would mean something else would have to exist.. Dun da da Dah! Roxas Nobody exist again!

Riku77

So far i like urs the best why because it makes sense! If they weren't supposed to exist then i can see the nobodies saying We aren't suposed to eist because if darkness wasn't soo greedy and wanted to make more heartless for Kingdom Hearts then ya we wouldn't be having these Nobodies occuring. However i don't remember that in the game just that they say we don't exist.. i could be wrong.

AndyCloseEyes

I like urs too.. So Nobody's arn't humans but.. they don't die like humans.. but they resemble humans and what do humans do? die? exactly! so a nobody has to die somehow..

So far i think this is the biggest mistake of the game.. other than that i have no questions for now.. continue ur thoughts if u dare lol

[KershaFangs]

To Zexionia: They are non-existant because the way they are create through is not a constant method. Not everyone who loses their heart becomes a Nobody, and that's not the only way to become a Nobody (note that when Xehanort discarded his body, Xehanort became an existance of only the heart and his body and soul became Xemnas. So Xehanort never lost his heart, but a Nobody was still created). Believe what you will, but I think the Nobodies are humans. Why wouldn't they be? Just because they have no heart? They are a human body animated by a soul. Where does the whole 'not human' thing come into play?

Even if you say I'm wrong and what I believe in is false, at least what I say and my opinion is supported by the game and not based on fangirl instincts.

You have lacked your own thought of the meaning of truly 'existing' in this world. The Nobodies do not live as their own person, as their own identity. Roxas can never be just Roxas, because he is Sora's Nobody. That's all he'll ever be. Sora's Nobody. Even if you respect and like him, is there any other way to really describe him? He is not his own person, he was created from a fluke, he was never meant to be. He doesn't exist. Only Sora's Nobody does, and it is a meaningless existance...

Get me now? -.-

[Zexionia]

everyone is entitled to their own opinion.. i have my own and u have urs along w/ every1 else that has posted on this topic and all other topics.. and i don't no where u thought i was trying to state that nobodies arn't human, i say they are.. whether i made a typo or not is unknown to me so i state this now, I DO BELIEVE THAT NOBODIES ARE HUMANS.. there

"You have lacked your own thought of the meaning of truly 'existing' in this world."??? ok now that i think of it i havn't added my own thought of ''truely'' existing.. i find no difference between truely existing and just existing.. to me they are the same.. so if i apply my opinion to ur truely existing opinion i am indeed not lacking my own thought.. everything i have typed is my own thought with the exception of the little summaries that i have typed that others have posted since im just to lazy to to use the quote key/tab thing.. (ironic huh?)

5 mins later..

they are non-existant and humans u say? im also not trying to imply that the only way u become a nobody is by loosing ur heart.. i don't really care how u become a nobody.. that isn't the point of this topic.. the point is why they don't exist. so if nobody's don't exist but are human may i ask do humans exist?

also (the most thinking i've done for u post so far is coming into play..) I say that a nobody can be his own person.. so what if they are the empty vessal of their original or in any other way they become a nobody if they loosing something they are different, atleast to me.. yea sure they came from one thing but its like 4 - 2 = 2 if u take something away it isn't the same. so a nobody can can resemble their original but to me they arn't the same.. at the very end of ur last post i got the impression after re-reading it several times that your trying to say that the nobody exist.. but its like the name and the person and them ingeneral don't except the nobody? if that makes sense im under the impression that they are there and they are existing. yea sure they weren't supposed to exist but heres the thing, they are. now that i read this ur post makes a little more sense.. but i still like my opinion.. eh im allowed to like it over urs, im me and ur you right?

Hopefully u all remember im posting my opinions and im not trying to upset u (my own thoughts..)

[zeeshan]

they don't have a purpose in life.