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Old September 24th, 2007, 07:07 PM   #31
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Well, we don't know the contents of Zexion's book, but I personally think it's a book of the living, and tells who became a heartless and nobody, and if a strong Nobody is born. So maybe that's how they know. But no matter what, they occupy almost every world and have their spys all over the place (the spys are the lesser Nobodies like Dusks.)
Zexion could also smell other persons from far away, maybe he recognized other Nobodies by their scent?
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Old September 24th, 2007, 07:09 PM   #32
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Zexion could also smell other persons from far away, maybe he recognized other Nobodies by their scent?
Yeah, that's also a good thought
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Old September 24th, 2007, 07:22 PM   #33
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He could certainly smell darkness, so I am sure his senses can allow him to determine what kind of person somebody is at least :).
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Old September 24th, 2007, 07:38 PM   #34
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Guys,1st of all theres no way that the 14th org member would be Terra,Ven or Aqua-Why?--> There names have meanings Aqua-Water,Terra-Earth,Ven-Sky (or something).We all know that in every game a special character (like his name) doesnt share commons with others.Aqua,Ven and Terra will be an important trio at KH3 and we will see them the most of the time (or maybe always) together.
Well Namine is the key to our answer I think-->She was created the same period as Roxas and her powers are incredible for using (something Xigbar would think as his job was to recruit the members of the org)...Well most people will say <<Why Namine doesnt have an "X" at her name...?>> or <<Why didnt was Organazation 14 then??>>,I think Xemnas and the other Org members thought that Namine wasnt able to fight so they thought of keeping her at Castle Oblivion for changing memories bla,bla,bla...But the truth is we still cant explain her name,she still doesnt have an "X".A possible answer would be that Xemnas gave 'his' X at the members who were able to fight,so he maybe thought Namine didnt worth to take an "X" because she was "special"...after all changing memories is a big deal!
Well that all from me.You have to know that I'm just guesing...we are doing ocnversetion here people :D
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Old September 24th, 2007, 07:42 PM   #35
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Omh why my <> dint show? well the first is "Why Namine doesnt have an "X" " and the othe other "Then why isnt Organazation 14?"

Fix that :S
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I wonder if she is a member if she wields a weapon then.. I mean Zexion got something at least.

And welcome Marluxia Rose, I agree, I don't really think Aqua, Ven or Terra are Nobodies. There may be Nobodies of them however.
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Old September 24th, 2007, 08:08 PM   #37
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It is logical to me. Who's to say that Namine was born, she was taken to the Org to become a member. When they start telling her what she has to do, she doesn't want to because she was a princess of heart before she was born, and she doesn't want to do bad things because of it.
That already fails. Namine had no memories of being Kairi. Hell, when Nomura created Namine, he said She and Kairi weren't connected.


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Or maybe they saw how she was connected to Roxas and wanted to keep them apart so they didn't let her enter. Either way, maybe she said she didn't want to be in, and Xemnas didn't like the idea, so he forced her, and didn't even honor her with a name.
Upon the time of entry into the Organization, you recieve and "X" in your name. Still the fact of the matter is they'd have to know that she was Kairi and given her an "X". Thus her name would have been Xirika or something to that gist.

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When they kept her locked up in CO maybe Larxene made fun of her and called her a baby and said that babies play with baby toys, and that's why Namine draws all day
She calls her a baby because Namine is a timid "person". That completely ovrpowers her ability to fight, aside from the fact that Square makes 98% of their females overlygirly.

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(not very well.) And Namine's power is not just distoring Sora's memories, but she can break chains and create memories (like she did with the Riku replica.) But even if that wasn't her element, she wouldn't show it because she wouldn't want to do evil.
When it comes to defining the Organization an nobodies, there really isn't a line between good and evil.

I really have lessened my opinion of anyone who believes that crap. Otherwise it would have been mentioned in CoM or KH2. This is really dumb.

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Old September 24th, 2007, 08:18 PM   #38
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It might it might not be. The only way we'd know for sure if it's Namine is if we got to see a new picture of this cloaked figure


Think about it If Xemnas was talking to her, if it was Namine she's really short so he'd have to look down. And the coat itself has to be really small too. I mean cause she's shorter than Roxas xDDD

so seeing the stature would do better than judging by the lips...

meh who knows..
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That already fails. Namine had no memories of being Kairi. Hell, when Nomura created Kairi, he said they weren't connected.
WRONG. It still works witjout the memories, she might have felt more like good person some where deep in her. As we said, she was special, she probably could feel something.

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Upon the time of entry into the Organization, you recieve and "X" in your name. Still the fact of the matter is they'd have to know that she was Kairi and given her an "X". Thus her name would have been Xirika or something to that gist.
Proof? I thik the most important thing is, that the name relates to your somebody in someway. Kairi means sea, Nami means waves. Ta-dah, there you have it.


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She calls her a baby because Namine is a timid "person". That completely ovrpowers her ability to fight, aside from the fact that Square makes 98% of their females overlygirly.
So..? The saying can have two meanings.


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When it comes to defining the Organization an nobodies, there really isn't a line between good and evil.
Really? They were killing each other, using Sora for their own good, Xemnas only cared about himself, they were in different worlds, no not on holiday, they were using their powers to bring misery to others. If thats not evil, then what is?
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Really? They were killing each other, using Sora for their own good, Xemnas only cared about himself, they were in different worlds, no not on holiday, they were using their powers to bring misery to others. If thats not evil, then what is?
I dont think the nobodies know a line between good and evil they are just trying to get a heart using all means necessary.
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Old September 24th, 2007, 08:45 PM   #41
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well it could just be another rumor you can't realy tell who they are just buy their lip.
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Old September 24th, 2007, 08:47 PM   #42
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Unless they have a giant rainbow coloured wart on it that has a unique molecular structure unlike anything else seen in time and space! Ok.. maybe not.. >_<. Yea, I mean lots of girls have the same lips o_O. Ah well, I really hope we get some solid clues soon, people are guessing out of thin air haha.
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Old September 24th, 2007, 08:53 PM   #43
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Yeah, time will tell, the only thing we can do is guess and wait
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Old September 24th, 2007, 08:56 PM   #44
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like i said..it depends on how tall she is...if she's shorter than Roxas then yes it's Namine

but if she's eye level with Xemnas, seeing as they say in the trailer Xemnas is talking to her then no...it's not Namine
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Old September 24th, 2007, 09:02 PM   #45
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WRONG. It still works witjout the memories, she might have felt more like good person some where deep in her. As we said, she was special, she probably could feel something.
WRONG!!! She thought she could feel, but she only deluded herself into doing so. No matter how hard she wished it, she was nothing but a nobody. And not even that. She was the anomaly within nobodies. Namine didn't have the proper requirement to even become a nobody. That's why she's special. All of the younger members think they can feel, except Zexion. Frigid b*****d.

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Proof? I thik the most important thing is, that the name relates to your somebody in someway. Kairi means sea, Nami means waves. Ta-dah, there you have it.
No, Nomura confirmed that when you enter the organization you recieve an "X" in your name. And as for them knowing she's Kairi, they knew Roxas was Sora. How else would his name be Roxas? For her to be a member, she would have had Kairi's name anagramizaed just like Soras.

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So..? The saying can have two meanings.
Generally when someone is called a baby it's because they're too timid to speak up for themselves. It's just psychology.

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Really? They were killing each other, using Sora for their own good, Xemnas only cared about himself, they were in different worlds, no not on holiday, they were using their powers to bring misery to others. If thats not evil, then what is?
The line is blurry when it comes to nobodies.
To be truly evil, you'd need a heart. Which I believe nobodies don't have.
While they only wanted their hearts, the way they went about it was evil.
I believe all that "Nobodies are evil" bullcrap was just bias from the light side.
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