"14th Org member is definitely Naminé!" - Page 2

**New2Ya** · September 24th, 2007, 05:38 PM

Everyone who says it's impossible because she doesnt work for the organization, think again. Let me start by saying though, the fact someone thinks she saw Naminé doesnt make it true. So take this "news" the way you want to take it, just keep in mind it's someone's opinion.

Now Ill explain how Naminé could be the 14th member. The thing is, Naminé is Kairi's Nobody. We know that. Nobodies like her tend to join the Organization. Take Roxas for example.

So the chance she would join the Organization is big.

Now we saw her for the first time in Chain of Memories. CoM takes place after 358/Days (and during), actually. Proof is the dialogue where it says that they know there is a traitor among them.

Imagine. Naminé comes into existence, and is asked to join the Organization. She accepts and joins, but soon finds out she completely disagrees with their actions. She decides to leave the Organization, but the Organization needs her to manipulate Sora, the keyblade bearer. Thus she is kept, locked in a room, to work for them.

That explains a lot really. For one, it explains how she ended up working for the Organization against her will.

I like my theory. xD

EDIT: wh00ps, it seems carsj had a similar thought.

Heartless.Nobody · September 24th, 2007, 05:38 PM

these are the only stuff i can find atm

G4 - The Feed - Daily Wrap-Up: 9.20.07 , she only starts talking about KH at 01:50

TGS 2007 - TGS '07: Square Enix shows all in closed megatheater - News at GameSpot , just some text and info about the games .

TGS07: Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep impressions - Joystiq birth by sleep trailer and more info

TGS07: Impressions of Kingdom Hearts: Coded and 358/2 Days - Joystiq moe information about the trio of the games and some links to interviews of people that were at the tgs ( tokyo game show) and were in the private theatre and saw the trailers

carsonj · September 24th, 2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuyu

Yeah, but didn't you know 385/2 Days is about Roxases time in Organization XIII.
In other words: Past.

carsonj, you're theory really makes sense. : D

Thank you.

I hope it clarifies for other people that just cuz we haven't seen something doesn't mean it never happened, ya know.

Fuyu · September 24th, 2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by carsonj

Thank you.

I hope it clarifies for other people that just cuz we haven't seen something doesn't mean it never happened, ya know.

You're welcome.

It really is annoyingWe saw Roxas in two different outfits, if we haven't seen Naminé in black coat, it doesn't mean she can't wear one.

Dark BHK · September 24th, 2007, 05:51 PM

i think the organization 14th is aqua :/

Nintandy · September 24th, 2007, 05:53 PM

Oh moobs, haha, this is going to completely screw up all those topics AGAINST it being her. They'll either flare up or simply be abolished. I don't think it'll be the latter ^^'.

Anyhoo, that's an interesting new tidbit. I mean she is a Nobody, despite the "special birth", and her element could be memories ;). Oh and this takes place after CoM and before KH2, so for people assuming she can't have been anything, we hardly know anything about her role during that period of time. Even Roxas is pretty much a mystery, so who knows.

carsonj · September 24th, 2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark BHK

i think the organization 14th is aqua :/

Here's the problem with that.
1) Aqua is in BBS therefore about 9-15 years in the past
2) Roxas was employed after he was born, as were all the other members
3) Aqua's armor is in the HB basement, implying that maybe she's been dead for some time
4) If Aqua was the 14th, she would have been employed during the time that the organization started, and not a year ago when Roxas was too

**New2Ya** · September 24th, 2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NintandyÂ²

Oh moobs, haha, this is going to completely screw up all those topics AGAINST it being her. They'll either flare up or simply be abolished. I don't think it'll be the latter ^^'.

Anyhoo, that's an interesting new tidbit. I mean she is a Nobody, despite the "special birth", and her element could be memories ;). Oh and this takes place after CoM and before KH2, so for people assuming she can't have been anything, we hardly know anything about her role during that period of time. Even Roxas is pretty much a mystery, so who knows.

After? I thought during/right before.

Roxas came into existence as soon as Sora became a Heartless right? Which was in KH1...

carsonj · September 24th, 2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by New2Ya

Proof is the dialogue where it says that they know there is a traitor among them.

I agree with ya on the other stuff, but I gotta clarify this. It's possible they could be talking about the 14th, but more proof goes to Number 11 Maruxula. Remember that Axel was sent to CO to investigate what they were doing there because their leader Xemanas suspected an uprising.

**New2Ya** · September 24th, 2007, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by carsonj

I agree with ya on the other stuff, but I gotta clarify this. It's possible they could be talking about the 14th, but more proof goes to Number 11 Maruxula. Remember that Axel was sent to CO to investigate what they were doing there because their leader Xemanas suspected an uprising.

It makes too much sense they are implying Number 11 Marluxia, particularly because it's the time of Roxas in the Organization, meaning during the CoM events... so we agree. :thumbup:

carsonj · September 24th, 2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by New2Ya

It makes too much sense they are implying Number 11 Marluxia, particularly because it's the time of Roxas in the Organization, meaning during the CoM events... so we agree. :thumbup:

Yup I guess so :thumbsup:

kiante · September 24th, 2007, 06:20 PM

No no, 358/2 has to be after CoM. Yes, Roxas was created before CoM, but he wasn't invited into the organization as soon as he was created I'm sure. The "Time of the other side" is when Sora's asleep after all. So he wasn't in the organization really before that, he was just a Nobody living in Twilight Town. I mean, Organization didn't just recruit EVERY strong-hearted Nobody neccesarily. And they aren't all knowing so they wouldn't neccesarily know when one was born. The betrayer WAS Marluxia, I'm sure of that.

It IS possible that Namine could be the 14th member...but it is doubtful also. Though, it would explain why she seemed to know TWTNW pretty well, as well as Roxas, while he was in the virtual Twilight Town. And then still, I would think that even if they always wear their cloaks and hoods after joining the Organization, I'm fairly certain that Xemnas probably knows what they look like, since he probably is the one that gives them those cloaks in the firt place. So I don't think he'd want Namine joining the Organization after the events at CO.

Nintandy · September 24th, 2007, 06:24 PM

I swear I read it was set after CoM. I think the majority of it does at least, with a little explaining what happened whilst Sora was in Castle Oblivion. And then it ends, probably, with Riku taking him to the digital world (OH NO I MUST RESIST ANY DIGIMON REFERENCES!).

kiante · September 24th, 2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NintandyÂ²

I swear I read it was set after CoM. I think the majority of it does at least, with a little explaining what happened whilst Sora was in Castle Oblivion. And then it ends, probably, with Riku taking him to the digital world (OH NO I MUST RESIST ANY DIGIMON REFERENCES!).

I agree. (Digimon, Digital Monsters, Digimon are the champions! lol)

carsonj · September 24th, 2007, 06:30 PM

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