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Old 07/22/07, 04:53 AM   #1
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Nomura: Well, I need to start with the story depicted in a Birth by Sleep. Aside from that, there's the story of how the King found his keyblade in the world of darkness and other things like that. Myself, one of the things I most want to do is to give Roxas more of a role to play. I think it would be interesting to flesh out more of the year he spent between his birth and disappearance. Or making Riku the main character, and writing about his desperate fight while Sora was asleep, and things like that. You get the impression that Riku summoned Roxas to a place of shadows, and that Riku is a master of shadows, so I would like to give him more exploration in the game.
Alright do you notice that? Yeah Just because i bold it doesn't mean thats my theory but you'll just have to understand everything that I will say.

Alright you all know that Namine is suppose to be Kairi's nobody right? well did you notice that her name doesn't have a X in it either. Also did you know that Xehenort was never called Xemnas til he made/joined the organization XIII. His name was Ansem too.(but somehow this kindof defeats the purpose of my theory.) But when you Join the organization you obtain a new name like how Xemnas said to roxas in the begging "Do you want to know your name?", well I think he was trying to tell him his name was sora,not really, but he might of been giving him the name of Roxas(i haven't seen that clip in a while so sorry if im wrong there lol)
But this goes back to Namine how her name doesnt have any letters(well some but not "K") from Kairi's name.
So their might be a possibility that Roxas name was Ven before he joined the Organization. And that's probably how Xemnas met Roxas was through one of the knights. He could of unfrozen Ven, then Roxas might of lost his memories somehow(Namine?) of the name being Ven, and thats why he asked Xemnas what his name was.

Basically I'm saying that Ven isn't,in my opinion, a new character(even if Normua said they were all new characters,did he? Sorry i forgot.). Ven must be the Roxas of the past before he was found by the organization.

Does this make any sense?

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Old 07/22/07, 05:18 AM   #2
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Yeah, this makeas perfect sense o.o... I think it's possible. Maybe he joined Aqua and Terra, and fought along side them for a bit without knowing he was a nobody yet...? :D I think that would be cool.
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Old 07/22/07, 05:21 AM   #3
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But did'nt Bomura said all 3 Knights were completely new characters?
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well maybe he changed his mind like the 3 keyblades the mysterious disappeared at the beginning of birth by sleep. if they were completely new characters then Ven shouldn't have a connection with roxas.
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Old 07/22/07, 05:43 AM   #5
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well maybe he changed his mind like the 3 keyblades the mysterious disappeared at the beginning of birth by sleep. if they were completely new characters then Ven shouldn't have a connection with roxas.
Maybe. It's all confusing really. Maybe they'll announce something of relevance to this question at TGS. (Do they? I don't go to/watch any of that kinda stuff ((Well obviously not TGS.)) )
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Wait did he really say "All 3" Are new characters? :X CAuse I could've sworn he just said "They" are new characters. He couldve referred to the baldie, Aqua and Terra? :D
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Old 07/22/07, 06:17 AM   #7
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wow that makes so much sense maybe he joined them trying to find his purpose or something and maybe mickey found him but lost him lol
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that's only possible if he traveled through time. that battle was in the past.
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that whole interview was a fake anyways
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Also did you know that Ansem the wise's nobody was never called Xemnas til he made/joined the organization XIII.
Ansem the wise didn't have a nobody, that was xehanort. o__o;

Other than that, Ven being a past version of Roxas. Yes. It's very, very likely.
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Roxas is not Ven.

The fight between Aqua, Terra, Ven and the Old Man was long before the story of Kingdom Hearts began. Which means Roxas couldn't have existed at that time.
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Old 07/22/07, 08:40 AM   #12
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What r you talking about man???

In the scene were Roxas gets his name Xemnas first shows SORA and then adds an X in it, then he spins the letters and changes it to ROXAS.

One more thing. Xemnas was not called Ansem. If you remember, Ansem the wise called Xemnas Xehanort, at The World That Never Was. Why? Because a Nobody has the soul and body of it's Orginal being.

The 3 Knights are New Characters. Why would Nomura lie about Ven.

Also the people who join the Organization XIII are the only ones who have X in there names.
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Wait did he really say "All 3" Are new characters? :X CAuse I could've sworn he just said "They" are new characters. He couldve referred to the baldie, Aqua and Terra? :D
No, Nomura only said the knights were new, he mentioned nothing about the UEM or DS...

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Yes, because it represents brotherhood...

I hate these Roxas/Ven threads...
Damn you VAT...
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Old 07/22/07, 10:14 AM   #14
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No, Nomura only said the knights were new, he mentioned nothing about the UEM or DS...



Yes, because it represents brotherhood...

I hate these Roxas/Ven threads...
Damn you VAT...
Oh okay :D! By any chance, do you have the exact interview? I can't remember which one was it O_O
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Old 07/22/07, 10:20 AM   #15
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ok, if i understand correctly, u said that ven is a past version of Roxas. If this is true, that means that there had to have been a past version of sora, since Roxas was Sora's nobody,right? ok IF
there was a past version of Sora, then i think that that allows a whole new storyline to unfold. I doubt that there was a past version of them tho.

O, and btw, Ansem(the wise) didnt have a nobody, it was xehanort, who adopted the name "Ansem" and his nobody used that name to create his Org. name, Xemnas.
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