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Old 07/25/07, 06:12 PM   #76
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uh, Roxas didn't have a name until Xemnas told him. He's nobody.
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Old 07/25/07, 08:59 PM   #77
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Cloud to sora. Looks oddly fimilar don't it?
riku's personality, squall's personality. Act the same, have the same reasoning.... HUH?
Sephiroth, xehanort. same long hair, same deformations, same act, same way of speech.. odd aint it?
Kairi/namine to rinoa,selphie,aeris,yuna,rikku,and alot of others. Hummmm..... all oddly similar eh?
Yensid/mickey/squall(KH), to auron, cid(most FF's). have an oddly mentorish habit eh?
Most of his characters where black. 'nough said.
Two male characters fighting for the affections of the leading female. 'nough said.
Axel to reno.
Most of his main characters have something to do with sky.
Most of his leads are leos.
Cloud - Sora no, not really. Its more like Sora and Sion.
Riku and Squall's personality? pfft. Squall is more the silent type while Riku is stuck up and over confident. (cept in KH2 he goes emo)
Sephy and Xehanort? o_O; I don't remember Xehanort calling a machine his mother and going crazy after reading a few books...
Girls - no. Kairi and Riona maybe (but Riona has a lil more spunk), Namine - shy, Selphie - hyper girl who likes cowboys and trains, Yuna - tuff cookie, rikku - sterotypical blonde (in a good way).
Yensid etc - well duh, they are all older with more experience in a game full of kids. o_o;
black - It's stylish easy color. commonly found in alot of games.
Two main etc - Thats almost every rpg and shounen animes v.v;
Last 3 yea.
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Old 07/25/07, 09:14 PM   #78
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Cloud - Sora no, not really. Its more like Sora and Sion.
Not in personality, in looks. Sora, as stated by nomura, was designed after cloud, but was given brown hair.
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Riku and Squall's personality? pfft. Squall is more the silent type while Riku is stuck up and over confident. (cept in KH2 he goes emo)
That was the part i was refering too. Riku, all through KH2, spoke little, and beat alot of arse. Just like squall.
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Girls - no. Kairi and Riona maybe (but Riona has a lil more spunk), Namine - shy, Selphie - hyper girl who likes cowboys and trains, Yuna - tuff cookie, rikku - sterotypical blonde (in a good way).
Before the fight - yuna(Jumps off a f-ing balcony to meet someone she barely remembers,which oddly reminds me of this)
during the fight - rikku(fast actions, kinda random)
Kairi's action after her fight. Rinoa("he-he")

in general, rinoa, with a little selphie(remember at the beginning of KH1?)

Namine is far from shy. Remember in TT with roxas? She wouldn't shut up when she was around him, and she acted like selphie(won't shut up, does really dumb jokes, bad timing). She was kind of shy in CoM's but that was out of guilt, not out of general character.
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Yensid etc - well duh, they are all older with more experience in a game full of kids. o_o;
You can have an older character in the game, without them preaching too you.(look at jolee bindo from KoToR.)
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black - It's stylish easy color. commonly found in alot of games.
ALL OF NOMURA'S CHARACTERS UTILIZE IT! RAWR.

That's what i'm getting at. Yes it's a common color(not really), but does every one of his characters have the have it?

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Not in personality, in looks. Sora, as stated by nomura, was designed after cloud, but was given brown hair.
Eh? I'm pretty sure Sora was based after Sion. I mean look:


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That was the part i was refering too. Riku, all through KH2, spoke little, and beat alot of arse. Just like squall.
Squall was more like "Whatever, lets just get this over with..." the cool type. While Riku(KH2) " .....DARKNESS CONSUMES MY SOUUULL! DONT LOOK AT ME! DX" in a quiet manner of course..

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Before the fight - yuna(Jumps off a f-ing balcony to meet someone she barely remembers,which oddly reminds me of this)
during the fight - rikku(fast actions, kinda random)
Kairi's action after her fight. Rinoa("he-he")

in general, rinoa, with a little selphie(remember at the beginning of KH1?)
Making me see that again continues to make me believe Sora is fruity. XD Also, I still don't get that ending. D: Where the hell did Tidus come from? *ahem* blah, anyway, Kairi still comes across as bland compared to Nomura's other girls. I geuss we can't really say anything until we see her do more...

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Namine is far from shy. Remember in TT with roxas? She wouldn't shut up when she was around him, and she acted like selphie(won't shut up, does really dumb jokes, bad timing). She was kind of shy in CoM's but that was out of guilt, not out of general character.
Selphie, helpless romantic and bouncy. Namine, plays like the innocent type but can be slightly manipulative. Shes calm, and says what needs to be said.

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You can have an older character in the game, without them preaching too you.(look at jolee bindo from KoToR.)
You can, but they didn't. It's not something thats just Nomura, its a thing that happens often. It's usually used to tell more story in the game or try to help the younger character develop more.

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ALL OF NOMURA'S CHARACTERS UTILIZE IT! RAWR.

That's what i'm getting at. Yes it's a common color(not really), but does every one of his characters have the have it?
As a character creator myself, black usually helps when you run out of color ideas. It matches with everything. :'D;;; ( In other words, lazy and/or bad at creative color coordination.)
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Eh? I'm pretty sure Sora was based after Sion. I mean look:
I'll give you that, but here's the thing:It's still the same base model that he has used before. It still proves my point. Nomura a shitty character designer.
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Selphie, helpless romantic and bouncy. Namine, plays like the innocent type but can be slightly manipulative. Shes calm, and says what needs to be said.
Romantic? Namine is a romantic. Think of what she said right before going into the dark portal with riku, "we'll see each other again." Pretty much the most romantic(classical sense of romance, striving for the impossible, even though you know it's impossible) thing you could say.

She's says what is needed, and says it alot.
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You can, but they didn't. It's not something thats just Nomura, its a thing that happens often. It's usually used to tell more story in the game or try to help the younger character develop more.
No, quite the contrary, most narratives, past and present(and video game if you really want to get into it), have the older character for comic relief and slight foreshadowing. Very few are there as mentors.
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I'll give you that, but here's the thing:It's still the same base model that he has used before. It still proves my point. Nomura a shitty character designer.
Yea... *tear*
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Romantic? Namine is a romantic. Think of what she said right before going into the dark portal with riku, "we'll see each other again." Pretty much the most romantic(classical sense of romance, striving for the impossible, even though you know it's impossible) thing you could say.

She's says what is needed, and says it alot.
What Namine was saying was Truth. They would see each other again as their others. She has a wise air about her. Plus, all girls have a sense of romance, Selphie is just more than others. Namine, has a normal sense of it. So you really can't compare the two.
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No, quite the contrary, most narratives, past and present(and video game if you really want to get into it), have the older character for comic relief and slight foreshadowing. Very few are there as mentors.
Yes, but like I said, its not something thats Just Nomu.
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This thread is gettin heated i dont even want to be involved any more....
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Old 07/26/07, 01:43 AM   #83
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Eh? I'm pretty sure Sora was based after Sion. I mean look:


Squall was more like "Whatever, lets just get this over with..." the cool type. While Riku(KH2) " .....DARKNESS CONSUMES MY SOUUULL! DONT LOOK AT ME! DX" in a quiet manner of course..

Making me see that again continues to make me believe Sora is fruity. XD Also, I still don't get that ending. D: Where the hell did Tidus come from? *ahem* blah, anyway, Kairi still comes across as bland compared to Nomura's other girls. I geuss we can't really say anything until we see her do more...

Selphie, helpless romantic and bouncy. Namine, plays like the innocent type but can be slightly manipulative. Shes calm, and says what needs to be said.

You can, but they didn't. It's not something thats just Nomura, its a thing that happens often. It's usually used to tell more story in the game or try to help the younger character develop more.

As a character creator myself, black usually helps when you run out of color ideas. It matches with everything. :'D;;; ( In other words, lazy and/or bad at creative color coordination.)
hahaha thats what my friend told me when i first got into kh, so i bought that game for 9 bucks. its a good game. great voice cast.
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*thinks that we need alot more info for the next kh game.* Yeah idk whether i agree with anyone anymore but nomura did state they have a connection. (This coming from a liar >.<) I believe it is possible that the kingdom key was meant for Riku and the way to dawn was meant for Sora. Not too touched up on my final mix info but i believe the knight guy says something like " i didn't choose u" or something along those lines. This was done on purpose...but can u imagine Sora using the way to dawn. It really might not be for the fact that the Kingdom key was originally meant for Riku. Riku doesn't seem too much of the light person to me much anyways....then again neither does that Knight guy they really don't seem qualified for that type of keyblade....@.@ IDK I just think we need more info........(agrees with V.A.T.13) >.> *thinks that alot of the other comments make no sense. Needs absolute proof when someone is denying a theory*
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