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Old July 7th, 2007, 03:39 PM   #76
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thats not to much writing itz enough to understand everything and ya twilight thx for the info itz alout
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Old July 7th, 2007, 06:41 PM   #77
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Sorry, double posted by accident!
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Old July 7th, 2007, 06:41 PM   #78
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I think the 3 Knights are related to Roxas and Xemnas.

When the heart is lost a Heartless is created and the body and soul then become a Nobody. A Nobody can only remember how a heart was like. What Happens if a Nobody remembers how the the heart was like, Does that effect it in any way. Could a new heart be born through remembring how it felt like.

This would explain why Roxas felt like he had a heart.

Memories, Could something be created from Memories.

"Birth By Sleep". Xehanort's Memories. Sora sleeping for 1 year (Dreaming). Chain Of Memories.The Room of Awakening.

I think Ven is related to Roxas through Sora's memories, as how Aqua and Terra are related to Xemnas through Xehanort's memories.

I know all of this sounds Confusing and messed up, but i think Roxas and Xemnas are related to the 3 knights through memories.


What do you guys think?
Hmmm....I agree with your theory! Makes perfect sense to me.
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Old July 7th, 2007, 07:38 PM   #79
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Um... I'm gonna stick to my theory on how they are connected for now, but that's not a bad theory.

But I do have some thoughts on "birth by sleep" now... I recently was able to come across subbed cutscenes from KH2 FM... and in one of them, they discuss something that Xemnas was doing "secretly"... He goes down below Hollow Bastion castle, to the room you go to in KH2 where you get sucked into the computer and meet Tron...

Xemnas walks in here, makes the camera turn off, and inserts a disk into the drive. He enters his ID "Another" --- (Side note: If you switch the letters around.... Xehanort= No Heart .... Xehanort= Another plus the "x" Which is why I think his ID is Another. Just a side note) And he enters the pass., the princesses names, and starts some program or something, takes the disk out, and continues over to the elevator that takes you into that HUGE room. (What this last parts relevance is, I'm not sure, I want to know what he uploaded, or downloaded to that computer) Anywho's after lots of walking down into a secret area, he comes to a door that opens automatically for him, and it appears there are chains that run all across the room, and when Xemnas comes in and sits in a chair, these chains light up and he says, "It's been a long time, my old friend." Or something like that, and then the camera goes over to what looks like a suit of armor (Is this what you guys were saying was Aqua's armor?) and a Keyblade. That's the end of that cutscene... and I know I kind of just stopped what I was previously saying, but I'm coming back to it...

In KH2 FM in that scene where a hooded Org. Member and Zexion are discussing something Xemnas is doing "secretly", the "Room of Sleep" is mentioned... I'm pretty sure that the room I just described Xemnas was in is this room. Because the hooded Org. member says that he has heard Xemnas talking to someone in there. And he says that there cannot be a "Room of Sleep" without a "Room of Awakening" where he believes the person Xemnas is talking to resides. This is probably just recap for some of you guys, but I'm getting to my thoughts, which I'm still trying to sort in my head...

I don't think that we will play KH3 in the past... No.. I think that, just like in the KH1 SE that this is something that will be explained and hit on in the plot, but I believe that we will still play as Sora, Goofy, and Donald... but they will be discovering the History of all this, DON'T DOG ON ME JUST YET! KEEP LISTENING! Ok... I have already mentioned my theory on how Roxas and Ven and Sora are all connected, not in this thread, but it's in a thread around here somewhere... But the reason why I still think we will play as Sora... is because in an interview with Nomura... he states, "Kingdom Hearts is Sora's story." I think that we will deal with the past ALOT... but I think it will be done in the time of Sora. And another thing, The "Room of Sleep" and the "Room of Awakening" are talked about in KH2 FM... which is clearly AFTER the KH2 FMSE, because of the armor and keyblade. And at the end of the SE, it says "A new story awaits the awakening" I believe this is referring to the awakening memories and self of Ven... maybe Terra and Aqua too... but I think mainly Ven... I think his heart and his "self" will awaken from sleeping this whole time... and Sora might start having "reaccuring dreams" as twilight likes... lol... and he will dive into and discover the past of the Keyblade.

That's what I've got for now... Don't tear me apart for my ideas... it's called CONSTRUCTIVE critisism... lol
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Old July 7th, 2007, 07:45 PM   #80
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Thats a quite important piece of work thanx for letting us know Twilight.
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Old July 7th, 2007, 09:01 PM   #81
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Now that's a good collaboration of things. That also makes sense.
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Old July 7th, 2007, 09:09 PM   #82
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ya thay does make sense thank you for sharing that with us good job.
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Old July 8th, 2007, 06:13 AM   #83
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Squall, twilight, and qwe... were you talking to me? Or to Xehanort 17? lol...

If you were talking to me... thanks... I've been thinking alot about all of this recently... and that post was hard work! lol.. jk.
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Old July 8th, 2007, 06:59 AM   #84
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Well, my previous post was towards your theory of course. I know, making theories is hard work!
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In KH2 FM in that scene where a hooded Org. Member and Zexion are discussing something Xemnas is doing "secretly", the "Room of Sleep" is mentioned... I'm pretty sure that the room I just described Xemnas was in is this room. Because the hooded Org. member says that he has heard Xemnas talking to someone in there. And he says that there cannot be a "Room of Sleep" without a "Room of Awakening" where he believes the person Xemnas is talking to resides. This is probably just recap for some of you guys, but I'm getting to my thoughts, which I'm still trying to sort in my head...
The hooded Org member is Xigbar. You can tell by his movement and body shape. Xemnas was talking to Aqua's armor, his so called "friend". Xigbar says that perhaps the other "friend" is in the Room of Awakening.
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“In the near future, when you experience the new Kingdom Hearts, please see about opening this book. I think surely some of these points will tie together.”

Is this a translation error, or does he really mean “book”. As in, Zexion’s book. Right?


Nomu is talking about the book this interview is in. Its called "another report" which holds this interview, and other interesting things about KH. Only those who pre-ordered KH2FM+ at a certain date got this book, but the scans are on a few websites.
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Old July 8th, 2007, 04:00 PM   #87
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“In the near future, when you experience the new Kingdom Hearts, please see about opening this book. I think surely some of these points will tie together.”

Is this a translation error, or does he really mean “book”. As in, Zexion’s book. Right?


Nomu is talking about the book this interview is in. Its called "another report" which holds this interview, and other interesting things about KH. Only those who pre-ordered KH2FM+ at a certain date got this book, but the scans are on a few websites.
Whats the kanji sign for book?
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Something like that I think.
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The hooded Org member is Xigbar. You can tell by his movement and body shape. Xemnas was talking to Aqua's armor, his so called "friend". Xigbar says that perhaps the other "friend" is in the Room of Awakening.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up, I thought that was Aqua's armor, but wasn't sure, and I already said the part about the friend in the Room of Awakening. lol
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