Roxas had a heart? On keyblades, knights, videos, other

[Twilight]

Sort of. Honestly I haven't been paying close attention to everything new with Kingdom Hearts but this is what I gathered what I found in the last few hours. I never played FM+, but I assume it still has bearing on the series.

[Souretsu Gear]

What I think when Nomura said "Roxas can use the keyblades because he has a connection with Sora" is that the heart of Sora is connected to the body of Roxas. Both are running on one heart. They are sharing that one heart. The power of Sora has been splited into two bodies, thus explaining why Roxas has power over the keyblade. It's because they are sharing the same heart!

[Eternamente926]

Twilight I love ya ... great compilation of thoughts :)

Also enjoyed the last part... "Nomura said "Kingdom Hearts is Sora's story" ... Enough said." Well said XD

I think Sora can use two Keyblades because Roxas is within him. And vice versa, in some respect... because Roxas is within Sora, Roxas can also use two Keyblades. Interesting how Sora doesn't actively use two, though... does Sora choose to only use one while in a normal state of mind (while not in a drive form), or is there a hidden restriction to why he only does? I don't recall where it was said, but it was indeed said that Sora can use two Keyblades.

[Twilight]

Yes I reallize this.

But Nomura said the amount of Keyblade's is the same as the amount of people with qualified hearts.

This makes me think that either by having a nobody, you get special powers to control two keyblades, or that Roxas had his own heart and corresponding keyblade.

Sora can still wield two keyblades now that he is reunited with Roxas, so I think that a keyblade wasn't just created for Roxas - it was meant for him. AND Sora to use. And Roxas had at least had a piece of Sora's heart.

[Bryantjj]

nice, and thing though about the Keyblades, if you say that Sora got his through 'normal acquisition': Sora got his keyblade because Riku's Heart was tainted wit Darkness and was literally swallowed by it at the moment he was supposed to get his keyblade. Because the Keyblade had to go to someone, Sora was the one nearest by. The fact that he's got a strong Heart made it possible for him to actually wield it. Now, once (I think) Terra said: You're not the one I chose... Or something like that. Since Terra was the one to wield KK in The Gathering, it is possible to assume that Terra was its previous wielder. When Terra says 'chose' does this mean that the previous owner decides who gets the keyblade? Is that normal acquisition?
Sora was able to wield a Keyblade, so Roxas is too... This is too simple for me. A Keyblade has to be wielded by a strong Heart. If not, then it will dissapear, as with Riku and Sora's conflict at Hollow Bastion in KH1. So Roxas probably does have a heart. (This can be followed by a seperate theory, but lets save that for later...)
I think anybody is able to wield Keyblades from both realms, it doesn't matter if it's Light or Darkness. I mean, why would somebody not be able to wield a Keyblade from the Dark Realm as long as they have a strong Heart?

I think Xemnas is essentialy the same as Xehanort. This can be proven by this: Nomura once said: If Ven is related to Roxas, then Sora is probably connected to. Why? Because they are the same 'existence'. So if the knights have a connection to Xemnas, then Xehanort must surely be involved as well.

My theory on 'The Lost Two' is that they are Ven and Aqua. Both have been severely hurt. (We all know how Ven was hurt and in FM+ we see Aqua's armor shattered.) Now, about that shadow in Ven's helmet. Could it be his own armor, or could it really be something else. It could be something beast-like since at some point it looks more like a dog/wolf. But I think it's just something of his armor, since after Ven moves because of Terra, it's gone. btw, here's a screen shot:


Okay, please understand that all this is not meant to undermine your theory IN ANY WAY. This is just how I look at the things you mentioned. Please gimme some feedback :P

[Princess of KH]

It's totally ok to write alot. I tend to, but that's just cause i like to talk. Anyways, there's alot of things in that post i never really thought about. I'm suprised, though, because i think alot about the story lines of all the video games i & my brothers play; i have to understand the story line or else it's not as much fun. I think that Roxas probably has a heart, Namine probably does if he does, & i really hope that somehow, Axel gets a heart. That would be so awesome!

[Sanctuary Keeper]

Originally Posted by twilight_dragon

What I think when Nomura said "Roxas can use the keyblades because he has a connection with Sora" is that the heart of Sora is connected to the body of Roxas. Both are running on one heart. They are sharing that one heart. The power of Sora has been splited into two bodies, thus explaining why Roxas has power over the keyblade. It's because they are sharing the same heart!

OOHHHH. I seee...I think. Since Sora actually still stayed 'alive' or at least retained his heart after becoming a shadow, then reverted back into his original form, Roxas would still be connected, and can rely on Sora's heart. Since (and I'm assuming) that everyone else in the org (exclulding Xemnas) has lost their original creator from which they were born from, they have no heart to rely on.

That's kinda sick...they are relying on one heart *heart throbing* *errie music play in background* xDDD

[Twilight]

Thanks Eternamente926 for the kudos!

Bryantjj, very good point about Sora not getting it through normal acquisition. I guess there is no Normal Way seen so far. And good point about the Xemnas and Xehanort. And good point about those being hurt, nice.

Princess of KH, yeh it would be cool if Axel somehow survived. That would be awesome.

OK, here's what I think.

The Secret Video took place in the Realm of Darkness, during the behind the Scenes when Mickey went to get his keyblade.

[Twilight]

THat's true about Roxas and Sora still being connected.

But Nomura said one keyblade per qualified wielder.

Was a keyblade created for this special situation?

[Sanctuary Keeper]

Yeah, but in this case, they are still 'one' just not yet actually joint

[Twilight]

well being ONE would mean ONE keyblade

and nomura specifies that both sora and roxas are able to wield two, as if it's important.

[Sanctuary Keeper]

I agree, but by now, we gotta learn to exempt a few things Nomura says. Sure he's the one who confirms this. But countless times has he given out inaccurate info when KH2 was coming out [mainly just to keep the fans quiet xD]. He kept changing the plot lines. It's good to just go with what's logical. IMO

[Souretsu Gear]

Originally Posted by Twilight

Yes I reallize this.

But Nomura said the amount of Keyblade's is the same as the amount of people with qualified hearts.

This makes me think that either by having a nobody, you get special powers to control two keyblades, or that Roxas had his own heart and corresponding keyblade.

Sora can still wield two keyblades now that he is reunited with Roxas, so I think that a keyblade wasn't just created for Roxas - it was meant for him. AND Sora to use. And Roxas had at least had a piece of Sora's heart.

Roxas had a heart. But it was being shared with Sora because the heart has returned to the body. Roxas was a nobody before, but when Sora became human again from heartless, Roxas became whole also. But at a cost, it split the powers of Sora.

The keyblade was also split along with Sora's power thus creating two keys for two equal yet different beings (Splitting the power of the keyblade in half thus explaining why the power of the key stats are smaller. i.e. Ultima was 12 strength in KH1 while it's 6 strength in kh2). Yes, Roxas had his own keyblade but, since the keyblade was split into two, the two keyblades are actually just one power that has two images (split image). It's the same key. When Roxas finally accepted Sora as an equal and fused with him, Sora's power became whole and the keyblade became one key thus explaining why Sora couldn't wield two key's at the time.

Why Roxas wielded Two Keys while Sora wielded one...

Roxas had only half the power of the keyblade while Sora had the other since it splitted into two images of weaker power. While Sora kept using just one keyblade, Roxas used two. Roxas wasn't using the one Sora used during the kh2 storyline. Roxas just split his keyblade in half again thus making both of his keyblades have only a quarter of what they formerly had (i.e. Ultima weapon kh1 - 12 -> Ultima Weapon kh2 - 6. Roxas splitting the ultima into two different keys - Oatkeeper - 3/Oblivion - 3). All in all, 12 divided into two equals 6, 6 divided by 2 again is 3. Even though Roxas had two Keys, they were weaker but gives Roxas more advantage but splitted the power (whole-half key - 6 --> key1 - 3, key2 - 3). Sora on the other hand still had a full half of the keyblades power. Even though Roxas had Oblivion and Oathkeeper, the power doesn't really matter. Those are just mediums for the splitted power of the keyblade to be used.

If that was too long, here's a summary:
Sora had one-half of the keyblade while Roxas had the other. Roxas split his half again into two thus having him have two-fourths of the keyblade (still one-half but one key has 1/4 while the other had 1/4).

Explain much?

[Sanctuary Keeper]

Hmm, it makes sense, but lets leave the actual numbers out. It makes me a bit skepitcal, since the numbers mainly here just deal with the battle system, not the actual story line

[Twilight]

That's an interesting idea. You have support from the games with the math. So you say that you can divide the power of a keyblade into two forms if you want, just on a whim?