Terra, Aqua, and Ven's origin and their ties to the Keyblade war/links to the series

[The Conquerer]

World of Terra, Aqua, and Ven/Keyblade War/Chasers/Lost two/Xehanort's memories/Master of the Keyblade/Birth By Sleep/Connections to the current series

I'll explain it all. The quotes from the second Secret Ending will fit in as well, so I don't feel the need to go into depth with them all.

I'm going to repeat some of the things we know already, so bare with me. It gets better...

In Kingdom Hearts 2, Xigbar mentioned that the Keyblade warriors from the past were stronger than Sora. Also from that Secret cutcene in Kingdom Hearts Final Mix+ that involved Xigbar and Zexion also mentioned something about those warriors.

Xigbar speaks:

How many years ago was it? People with the blade of keys started to appear and fought great battles. When they were gone, a man who had lost his memories appeared. Xemnas... no... Xehanort was taken in by Ansem around that time, was he not?

We later found out that the warriors Xigbar was talking about were infact Terra, Aqua, and Ven.

We'd like to inquire about the new secret movie "Birth By Sleep". In the new event "The Truth about the Chamber of Sleep", Xigbar mentions a "group that wields keyblades". Is he talking about the 3 armored people in the movie? Nomura: Yes, Xigbar witnessed them when he was a disciple to Ansem the Wise.

World of Terra, Aqua, and Ven:

Going by the information alone, we can assume that Terra, Aqua, and Ven were inhabitants of Radiant Garden at one time and came across Braig in some form or another. We also can assume that Sunsets Horizon is the world itself. Obviously Ansem the Wise and his apprentices accompanied by the citizens of Radiant Garden were spectators and witnesses of the 3 Keybladed warriors. Also Xehanort's appearance has something to do with the vanishing of the Keybladed warriors.

Obviously his memories are trapped in as well. This all has something to due with the fact that he wound up in the outskirts of Radiant Garden.

Keyblade War:

Accordingy to the quote in the first Secret Ending and the information provided by Xigbar; Terra, Aqua, and Ven were the Keybladed warriors who fought in many battles and were most likely part of the Keyblad War. In the Secret Endings we have seen Keyblades scattered all across the fields, perhaps a product of the Keyblade War that Terra, Aqua, and Ven were part of.

Accordingy to Xigbar, the 3 warriors were heros, perhaps they kept Radiant Garden in peacefull order and battled others to protect that order. My guess is that Terra, Aqua, and Ven were treated as Knights and granted armor to further aid them in combat.

Born to battle, those with the power to wield the Keyblades are the chosen warriors. Since Radiant Garden was an inbetween world, its most likely that Terra, Aqua, and Ven's Keyblades were created from the their hearts opposed to the realms. I believe that a Keychain represents that the Keyblade comes from a particular realm, while a Keyblade without a Keychain is most likely derived from one's own heart, since they don't belong to a particular realm, and that could be said about the warriors' Keyblades in the surronding countries.

Radiant Garden is most likely a kingdom in Sunsets Horizon, and one of the countries that took part in the Keyblade War.

Why war? I guess even in the world of Kingdom Hearts, politics and things associated with power all led to war. The powers of the Keyblades are what drove The Keyblade War. What I'm thinking is that Terra, Aqua, and Ven led their Kingdom to victory and they were considered heros. Maybe this was how Braig came to know of the warriors of the Keyblades.

In the open fields of Sunsets Horizon, there were countless Keyblades, I bet they belonged to the fallen warriors who lost their lives in the Keyblade War while trying to bring their countries to prosperity. My guess is that Terra, Aqua, and Ven were not alone when trying to save their country, but they were the only ones left after the war.

Chasers/Master of the Keyblade:

I really don't like to use this term because of the lack of information, but the chasers are those who hunt down others. I'm guessing the Keybladed wielders from the otherside(s). My guess is that the UEM (DS as I guess) was the one hunting down Terra, Aqua, and Ven. Before crossing over to that world, he most likely caused some trouble in the Realm of Light.

Mickey infact has ties some where in there. Remember Mickey wielded a Keyblade of Light before searching for a Keyblade of darkness. Maybe he was the wielder to save the world before Sora's time.

In [KHI], the King searches for a keyblade in the realm of darkness, but when he meets Ansem the Wise, is the realm of light keyblade he has the one that Sora is currently using?
Nomura: No, the King has the ability to use keyblades from both the Realm of Darkness and of Light. This is an important point, there isn't just one keyblade from each world, just as many as there are people with qualified hearts.

My guess is that UEM attempted to ruin the realm of Light but was chased out by Mickey. My guess was that they were playing cat and mouse and the UEM was causing damage to the worlds while Mickey had to fix them. The UEM probably used his darkness to appear in Sunsets Horizon. I think its possible that the UEM wanted to bring Radiant Garden and the rest of Sunsets Horizon to darkness.

I think he knew that there were other wielders of the Key there, and to further his plans, he would have to defeat those wielders. I think its possible that he attacked them, and they met up a final last time at the Keyblade graveyard. Mickey was still restoring the worlds in the realm of light, so he could not make it there in time to save tha world and those Keyblade warriors.

Even though Terra, Aqua, and Ven were talented warriors, their powers could not even rival those of the UEM, and he pumbled them. I think he knew that no one in that world possesed a Keyblade of Light to challenge him or a darkness realm Key for that matter, and he opened up Kingdom Kingom Hearts with his darkness Keyblade with the attempt to draw masses of darkness from it and become a superbeing.

Lost two/Xehanort's memories/Birth By Sleep:

How many years ago was it? People with the blade of keys started to appear and fought great battles. When they were gone, a man who had lost his memories appeared. Xemnas... no... Xehanort was taken in by Ansem around that time, was he not?

It all goes back. The fall of the Keybladed warriors has ties to the appearance of Xehanort. My guess is that after the UEM opened up Kingdom Hearts, Terra's heart which held anger and pain, drew upon the masses of energy in Kingdom Hearts as well as the darkness that was summoned. Terra had a special ability, but it got the better of him, he was combined with some of the powers of Kingdom Hearts and thus Another being came into creation. (Another=Xehanort-X) "Another" was also a password into the Hallow Bastion secret chamber.

With that power, he shocked the UEM and Aqua and the Superbeing leveled the landscape with his power as Mickey came in to save the day, but he was too late, so he watched from afar. The Superbeing most likely struggled for a name, if he was anything like Xemnas, than created a name would be relavent. He used "X" because it means that he betrayed or abandened something dear, he used "Another" because that was his state of self and combined them together and came up with Xehanort. He kept that name stuck in his mindset.

I think its possible that he planned to go back to Radiant Garden but the powers took an affect on him and he fell to the the ground. With some of the powers waring off, some of his personailty wore as as well. With a majority of the Kingdom Heart's powers leaving him, he lost a great deal of power and his memories were taken away as well since his otherside was supressed, he could not remember the things he went through in the past.

But Xehanort was still permentally fused with some of Kingdom Heart's power. The only thing he could remember, was his name. Ansem the Wise spots his body in the distance and takes him under his wing.

Connections to the current series:

My theory is infact finished, but I'd like to connect these things to the current Kingdom Heart's storyline.

If I explore Xehanort’s heart with psychological tests, I may be able to recall the past locked away within. My apprentice, Even, has also shown great interest in Xehanort’s memories. But is he really the right subject? Xehanort does indeed exhibit extraordinary talents…

Too extraordinary… Perhaps they are even superhuman. -Secret Ansem Report 1

My guess is that Xehanort still posseses some of his powers and unique abilities. That is probabaly why he can be considered superhuman. And the room Ansem the Wise and his 6 apprentices helped forge was possibly the Room of Sleep which was used to gather the past about Xehanort. Eventually this led to Ansem the Wise shutting the room down, due to the problems, who knows what they were.

Xigbar Speaks:

The "Room of Sleep"... the underground laboratory where we were studying the darkness within people's hearts, the place which Ansem ordered us to seal-away... The first thing Xemnas did when he got rid of our wise yet bothersome leader was to release the seal and make that room in the depths of the laboratory. After that he frequently went down there and I could hear him talking with someone. Isn't that odd? Xemnas is supposed to be in there alone.

Obviously, Xemnas used this room to gain more information on his original body's otherside's memories. This is most likely were he learned of Aqua and Ven, as well as their Keyblades. My guess is that he wanted to track them down, or at least their Keyblades, so that they could be used to further his plan.

How did Xehanort manage to open the door that appeared in the basement of my castle…? -Secret Ansem Report 13

My guess is that Xehanort was in the Room of Sleep and remembered a little about his past dealing with the Keyblade. My guess is that he was able to subconsciencely draw upon his weapon and open the door.

Okay, Sora came across Terra in the fields of Sunsets Horizon, how did he return to normal, or at least how did he retain his sence of sefl? Perhaps, he was left behind... If Xehanort had seperated his heart from his body, then what becomes of Terra? Obviously a nobody form of Xehanort was created, but where does this leave Terra? If Xehanort was partically a created being from Kingdom Hearts just taken form accordingy to Terra's heart, then if it was casted off, heart, body and soul, then its possible that Terra returned to normal in Radiant Garden after the afflictions of Xehanort had been lifted.

Xehanort is split across seperate entites:

The original (Terra)
Another (Xehanort)
Xemnas (Nobody)
Xehanort's Heartless

But what was Terra doing that whole time in Sunsets Horizon? Maybe he was looking for his lost friends Aqua and Ven. The hatred he has for his other half is prominet, he wanted to face his other half, but was encountered by a strong heart, who he thought was Xehanort. Terra did not choose to battle him, but fought the young Keyblade warrior (Sora).

In the beginning, the armored youth's eyes are blue, but at the end they change to gold. Is this revealing a

change in him?
Nomura: I can't give specifics about this either... I think everyone's imaginations are pretty capable so please try and

anticipate a lot of things.

Nomura hints that we should be able to put some of the pieces together, since we'd be working backwards while understanding the foundations of Kingdom Hearts in this new series.

In the additional event "Farwell to a Friend", there's a scene where Axel tells Roxas "You really do have a heart, don't you". What is the actual case here? Nomura: In this scene, it ends bringing up more mysteries about Roxas, so for the answer, maybe take care to follow your hunches well, it's also related to Xehanort's memories, but I can't give any specifics now.

Perhaps its related to Xehanort's memories, because Xemnas some how obtained his memories of the past and Ven's appearance is much similar to that of Roxas's.

[Nelo Angelo]

for fecks sake. whats with it ppl and essays. i swear down its a bit tooo much.
but hey..rated on this tho Conqueror. nice job.

[incandescenza]

Wow, it was really good <3333 It seems like you've thought about this quite alot! I'm feeling generous today, so I'll rep you

[Saiou Takuma]

Imagining how Roxas and Namine "return" to Sora and Kairi respectively, and ES is only available to fight AFTER beating Xemnas, maybe a similar thing occured with Xemnas and Terra?

[The Conquerer]

^Well Xemnas is a special nobody afterall, and neoangelo, I do try, I do try to limit what I say. I mean its hard to compress everything into a paragraph, but this was the smallest way I could explain it without turning it into something like a journal.

[Nelo Angelo]

hmmm...it is fine. accept my apology. you have done well in increasing our knowledge on this topic. i applaud you.

[Little_Red]

ya'll act like a bunch of civilized aristocrats
lolz

thanks for the info Conquerer!

[Keyblade Soldier]

This is really interesting, good job!

It must have taken you a while no?

[The Conquerer]

It must have taken you a while no?

Heh, not really. I mean it took about 30 minutes, then I went to sleep and woke up that morning and finished it. I just went over to see if it had any flaws, so far so good.

Right now I'm just trying to get this thread to have as many responces as possible. I want to see if people can find something that I can't see.

[OmniChaos]

The only things I really didn't like about the theory was Terra transforming into Xehanort....

Xigbar knew Terra and the other knights, so wouldn't you think Xigbar would have noticed that Xehanort was very similiar to Terra?
Another thing, is that there is an insane resemblence between the UEM and Xehanort/X'sH/Xemnas (aside from the clothes).

[Red]

Pretty good theory. It could be but I bet when the game comes out it's gona be the simplest thing and we are gona be like how did we not know that >.< That's just how I was with the 2nd game coming out

[The Conquerer]

The only things I really didn't like about the theory was Terra transforming into Xehanort....

Well, I mean he looks similar to Xehanort, with the hair shape and face shape. I'm saying that with Terra absorbing Kingdom Hearts and all, could have changed his skin and hair color. Roxas and Sora had different hair colors as well, yet they had major connections to each other. I'm thinking the change of Terra's eyes had something to do with either the darkness or Kingdom Heart's influence. I mean the UEM used his Keyblade to summon the heart figure, he obviously used his power, if Terra absorbed some of the Heart's powers, then some of the UEM's power would also be absorbed in as well, which means he could have taken over some of his darkness.

Xigbar knew Terra and the other knights, so wouldn't you think Xigbar would have noticed that Xehanort was very similiar to Terra?
Another thing, is that there is an insane resemblence between the UEM and Xehanort/X'sH/Xemnas (aside from the clothes).

I think Xigbar does notice, I mean he pointed out that when the Keybladed warriors vanished, Xehanort was left over, I think he knows a little something, although I don't think he would think on it hard enough to lable him as Another without complete evidence.

But the only thing Xehanort's heartless and the UEM has in common is the outfit. I mean the UEM has an eagle nose, round face, wrinkling skin, and stretched out kneck. They look nothing a like.lol Maybe their eyes but by the physical features, they look completely different. Although I do believe there could be a possible connection, like power wise, etc.

If you put the UEM together with all of Xehanort's incarnations, you can see that they have no resemblence besides the eyes and the clothing.

[OmniChaos]

But the only thing Xehanort's heartless and the UEM has in common is the outfit. I mean the UEM has an eagle nose, round face, wrinkling skin, and stretched out kneck. They look nothing a like.lol Maybe their eyes but by the physical features, they look completely different. Although I do believe there could be a possible connection, like power wise, etc.

If you put the UEM together with all of Xehanort's incarnations, you can see that they have no resemblence besides the eyes and the clothing.

~No, not really. The way the UEM walks with his hands behind his back is a common sterotype of a scientist, which Xehanort was.
~The UEM is the only person, as of now, that has the "superhuman" quality Ansem discribed Xehanort of having.
~The only person, aside from Xehanort, who is completely fixated on Kingdom Hearts would be the UEM. The Org was only fixated because they were following Xemnas.
~Both Xehanort and the UEM seem to be emotionless and give no regard to others.

Well, you have to put into consideration that the UEM is very old. People change physical features when they age. We have no idea how Xehanort would look older.

Okay, Sora came across Terra in the fields of Sunsets Horizon, how did he return to normal, or at least how did he retain his sence of sefl? Perhaps, he was left behind... If Xehanort had seperated his heart from his body, then what becomes of Terra? Obviously a nobody form of Xehanort was created, but where does this leave Terra? If Xehanort was partically a created being from Kingdom Hearts just taken form accordingy to Terra's heart, then if it was casted off, heart, body and soul, then its possible that Terra returned to normal in Radiant Garden after the afflictions of Xehanort had been lifted.

(Forgot to mention this)
When you meet Terra at Sunset Horizon, supposing he is all that remains of Xehanort, then Terra would be nothing more heart and would need a host, like we see with Kairi and Xehanort's Heartless. We see no transformation into a heartless on him and a heart cannot fight on it's own; and Nobodies cannot weild Keyblades (except Roxas who is a special exception to the rule) because they have no hearts, that would make Terra complete.

[Saiou Takuma]

Xemnas did mention things about being eternal, it's an uber-cliche but maybe there's some "fountain of youth" type effect going on with...... well, my thought ends there....... Kingdom Hearts? Terra?

[SilverFinalForm]

Ok the reason why Ven looks like Roxas and why Axel tells him he has a heart because when Sora turned into a heartless (Aqua took him into the Room of Sleep[I thinks it's that one] and puts his heart safe [n Sora's heart]) So Sora used the darkblade where he wanted to free Kairi and another heart came out which was Ven's heart. Ven's heart went right into Roxas and that's why they look alike and that's why Axel says to him "So you so have a heart."