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Old 05/20/07, 05:48 AM   #1
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okay this is what i think is going on

Okay this is what I think is going on. The old man I think is named Xehanort but he is not the Xehanort we know, I think that boy Ven is the Xehanort from the first two games (three if you count COM). During the fight, after Ven was frozen the Terra continues fighting the old man after removing his helmet. Aqua manages to defrost Ven (maybe by using fire), but he is still too weak to continue fighting so he forced to only watch. As the battle continues Xehanort (the old man) defeats Aqua and Ven looks on in horror as she dies. The Terra is outraged and his hatred grows for Xehanort, then Xehanort threatens to give Ven a similar fate, unable to defend himself he only sits there with fear and doubt entering his heart. As Xehanort cast the spell Terra jumps in the way and takes the blow, his armor changes color and he seems to be there physically but its as if his heart is sealed putting him in a sleep (hence why he looked asleep when Sora found him). Xehanort has a pleased look on his face, he knew Terra would sacrifice himself for Ven and now no one is left to stop him since Ven is still weakened. Ven is in shock, the people closest to him are gone, and his heart begins to fill with anger and revenge. Just then he remembers something that Terra told him about the power of darkness and all though it grants amazing power it can consume him. Ven is twilight (my reason for saying this is because he picks up Riku’s keyblade way to dawn) so he has the powers of both light and dark. Filled with hate he cast away his light and summons the power of darkness, changing the color tone of his skin and turning his hair silver. Granted with the power of darkness he fights Xehanort and eventually wins. As he does Xehanort tells him something like “ The darkness (cough) will consume you.” Or something to that effect and then Ven kills him. After killing him Ven gains even more power. With his already fragile and weakened heart the darkness begins to take hold and his traumatized mind sees him as weak so he hungers for more power. He looks up and sees kingdom hearts in the sky and sees it has his way to gaining more power. He commands Kingdom hearts to give him more strength and then tries to absorb Kingdom hearts but Xehanort didn’t complete the spell so kingdom hearts explodes when his darkness touches Kingdom Hearts. The explosion sends Ven far away into another world, the hearts that dispersed take his memories. Eventually he is found by Ansem and is nursed back to health. When Ansem ask who he is the only thing he remembers is the name Xehanort so he believes that’s his name. Also one of the hears tainted with Ven’s (now going by Xehanort) darkness ends up under Ansem’s castle where it grows and eventually becomes a heartless, since it has no body to sustain it, where it is discovered later by Ven which prompts the experiments.

Well that’s my theory.

My reasons for thinking this are:
1. I don’t think Xehanort is Terra because he says he hates him (although since its kingdom hearts anything can happen)
2. When Xemnas goes into the room of sleep he sees Aqua’s armor and calls it friend, in the secret movie Aqua and Ven seem to have a strong friendship, when he finds the armor some of his memory returns and he remembers Aqua and Terra. He then begins to find a way to revive Aqua but he needs to be complete first so he needs a heart and he also needs to find E.S. Xigbar says that Xemnas is also looking for another friend in another room so that is probably Terra.
3. In the Secret Ansem Report he refers to Xehanort as a young, to me this means Xehanort was young like a teenager or whatever age Ven was (he looks as old as Sora and Roxas).
4. When you fight Xemans in the final battle (yes I know Robert Yarbrough pointed this out already) his armor looks a lot like the knight’s armor.
5. Why Riku’s dark suit and D.S. look alike is because when Ven/Ansem/Xehanort took control of Riku he subconsciously remembered D.S. so Riku’s armor looks like that because of Ven’s memories
6. In the first secret movie Sunset Horizon, it clearly says memory of Xehanort, not memories of Xehanort. It says this because (assuming I’m right) Ven has only a memory of Xehanort. The way its written means remembering of Xehanort, if it had said memories of Xehanort it would be dealing with memories of Xehanort himself.
7. Also why Ven looks like Roxas, well maybe Ven is related to them. I know Ven proably didn’t have kids if my theory is right but maybe he and Terra. are brothers and before they fought Xehanort(the old man) he had a child and Sora is a descendent of that child. Like I said this just what I think and Terra and Ven being brothers is farfetched i know but E.S. does keep Ven from fighting the old man and charges in head first (this could be interpreted anyway but I’m assuming the brother thing.)

Other stuff I think, maybe D.S. is just a summon like the guardian Ansem (the heartless) uses. Or maybe D.S. is a heartless and the old man separates his heartless and nobody apart so they can both fight separately. Also when you wake up Terra, he sounds out of it. The way his words are spaced apart suggest he is dizzy or disorientated and he yells out Ven and Aqua’s name, I think he’s just woke up from the spell.
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Old 05/20/07, 06:37 AM   #2
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Huh. Sounds like my theory but switch Ven and Terra around.
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Old 05/20/07, 10:33 AM   #3
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OMG, I really like this theory! Because I don't think Terra is Xehanort, but I don't think Ven is related to Sora too. Altough they look like each other...
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Old 05/20/07, 05:45 PM   #4
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Great Theory, Dude. I never expected to see that Xaehnort and Terra are the same, but who cares?!?!

All as I can say is that this is THE BEST DAMN KH THEORY, EVER!!!!!!!!!! In the words of the Comic book guy, from the Simpsons.
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Old 05/20/07, 08:21 PM   #5
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Just to clarify, i'm saying Terra and Ven are brothers and Terra had a child and sora is a descendent of that child.

I read it and i didn't know if i made it clear that i was saying Terra had a kid.
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Old 05/20/07, 08:43 PM   #6
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Wait....Im a little lost. I got most of what you were saying and bravo on the theory but isnt Aqua a girl first of all, and isn't she the one with the blue hair. Isnt Ven the one that was completely frozen. Isnt the other guy...Terra or whatever the one with the eyes.

I did notice that the spell that the bald dude cast seemed to be used with Ven's heart. I think Aqua is definitely pissed off now. Or is Ven a boy with blue hair and aqua was a the girl frozen to death? Or were they both boys? You can never tell in Japan.

Arent these three possibly the keyblade bearers before Sora Kairi and Riku came around.

OK I agree completely with your theory otherwise and was actually thinking something similar to it.

I think the bald guy using Ven or Aquas or whoever's heart was cast into the sky created the initial merge between the worlds that caused all the heartless to start coming through.

Im so confused I must sound like a complete idiot.

too many theories, my brain hurts.
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Old 05/20/07, 09:17 PM   #7
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this has nothing to do with the subject just wanted to put it on
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That's a REALLY good theory! I'm not sure if Xehanort can be Terra though...
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Just to clarify, i'm saying Terra and Ven are brothers and Terra had a child and sora is a descendent of that child.

I read it and i didn't know if i made it clear that i was saying Terra had a kid.
Aqua is the girl out of the group of Terra and Ven(who are boys). Ven is the one who looks like Roxas/Sora and Terra is the one with the eyes...

PS:Sorry for the double post...
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well actually it was stated by nomura that Ven is somehow connected to sora and the rest, or am i wrong?
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also the pic you posted Soraschaser555 is a fans art work namura stated that the next game wouldnt be called KH3 and its also been stated that it will be a handheld counsle

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Aqua is the girl out of the group of Terra and Ven(who are boys). Ven is the one who looks like Roxas/Sora and Terra is the one with the eyes...

PS:Sorry for the double post...
i know, i'm saying Terra had a child with someone else. I know he's a boy and i'm just saying the child could be left with the mother while terra and the others left to fight the old man
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Sora has way too many dopplegangers
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everyone wants to be connected to sora, hes just that gangsta...lol

and to V.A.T.13, about your theories, the one you are 75% sure about, i had the exact same connection theory, playing the circle over and over again! it was bashed a whole lot tho, but alot of other people liked it thumbsup
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Sora has way too many dopplegangers
yes, you're right, but actually I hope Ven has a connection to Sora, wich means he has one to Roxas, and what would mean that Roxas gets a role in the next game!
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