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Old 05-08-2007, 06:49 PM   #1
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Ok, this may have already been hit, but i haven't seen anything about it, so i'm posting it anyway.

Mickey: Keyblade Of Darkness
Sora: Keyblade of Light
Riku: Keyblade Of Dawn
Kairi: Keyblade of Twilight???

It would only make sense, wouldn't it? Four cross roads, four keybladers, Mickey, sora and riku, all of thier 'elements' have been identified. also, if you put them in order of time...

Light. Twilight, Darkness, Dawn

Sora, Kairi, Mickey, Riku

Riku and Mickey are great friends, as seen from the end of KH2
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Obviously Sora and Kairi are great friends, don't quite know where i'm going with this, but i think it might be something.

Now for the disproving of a theory. Alot of people think the secret endings from 2 and FM+ are in the past, but they can't be, it's impossible. The Reason i say this is because Way To The Dawn was picked up by one of the soldiers. However, Riku's keyblade wasn't made until after The Land Of Dragons, up until that point, he was still using Souleater. Well, there's my theory/thing on it all. Enjoy


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Old 05-08-2007, 07:00 PM   #2
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You know you just disproved something for real, I mean Way to the Dawn was not KNOWN OF until after Mulan's world, this would make the secret video have to take place some time between then and the future? Wasn't it confirmed that the secret video took place in the past? I'm confused...
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Wrong about the Twilight and Dawn thing. Twilight and Dawn are the same thing. So you can't really call Kairi Twilight since Dawn is a form of Twilight. The opposite form of Dawn or the other form of Twilight is Dusk.
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Well you have it a bit wrong.

Sora wields a Keyblade of Light.
Mickey wields a Keyblade of Darkness.
Riku wields a Keyblade from inbetween (Twilight) or dawn, its considered the same.

We don't know much about Kairi's Keyblade. Although she obtained it in a special way. Something to do with Riku's bonds, Kairi's strong heart, ties between friends, (ect).

Remember that interview with Nomura? It talked about how there are many variations of Keyblades based off of the wielders and or the various types of Keyblades based off the realms. Sora's Keyblade represents the Keyblade of light, but that does not mean that there is only one Keyblade that represents the realm of Light and that could be said about the other Keyblades as well and the realms they belong to.

Mickey traveled to the realm of darkness to obtain a Keyblade opposite of Sora's because it takes 2 Keyblades from two different realms from two different sides to close the door to darkness. One Keyblade from the realm of light and one Keyblade from the realm of darkness. 2 polar opposite, one on the front of the door another in the back of the door.

Of course there are (where) many Keyblade wielders and their Keyblades were probably much different from Sora's, Riku's, Mickey's, and Kairi's. The 3 Knights explained that perfectly. Each of the 3 soliders has Keyblades that represents them. Also the paths they came from gave off hints showing us that they wielded different types of Keyblades representing light, darkness, and the inbetween.

We have a lot of evidence suggesting that the Secret Ending took place in the past. For one Xehanort's memories is one thing, and the Keyblade war is another. In Final Mix+, Xigbar talked about how there were strong Keyblade warriors that fought in the past, and once they dissapeared a guy without his memories was left behind. This scene involved Xigbar and Zexion and it was after the cutscene that showed Xemnas walk down that special passage way in Hollow Bastion.

Also Nomura said that he would like to think the Secret Ending took place in the past quite some time ago.

In the first Secret Ending, it showed the ES pick up the Kingdom Key, the BHS pick up the Way to Dawn and the FS pick up Mickey's key. They all held on to their original keys as well. Yet in the new Secret Ending, none of the soliders had the familar Keys in hand.

Remember the Secret Endings are concepts and its possible that the familar Keyblades in the first Secret Ending was there to show us the connections the 3 soliders had with Sora, Riku, and Mickey by the Keyblades and what their powers were aligned with.

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Old 05-08-2007, 07:16 PM   #5
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Mickey: Darkness
Riku: Twilight
Sora: Light
Most likely, this 4th one is present.

Does anybody actually remember about the 4 Worlds?
Light, Darkness, Twilight, and Present??
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Now for the disproving of a theory. Alot of people think the secret endings from 2 and FM+ are in the past, but they can't be, it's impossible. The Reason i say this is because Way To The Dawn was picked up by one of the soldiers. However, Riku's keyblade wasn't made until after The Land Of Dragons, up until that point, he was still using Souleater. Well, there's my theory/thing on it all. Enjoy
Unfortunately, (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) this doesn't disprove anything. Keyblades with key chains aren't made by the wielder and therefore a keyblade could have been in existence since the beginning of time.
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Old 05-08-2007, 07:30 PM   #7
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Gotta disagree with you twilight and dragon. Dawn and twilight are opposites in a sense. dawn is before light and after darkness and twilight is after light and before darkness. You can't really lump the two together. Y'know?

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Read this article:

Twilight - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Time before sunrise. Time after sunset.
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I'mma tellin mah theory.

You can't have "Dawn", nig.

It's twilight.

The 4 "Concepts" or whatever are Darkness, Light, Inbetween or "Twilight", and Present.
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Keyblades with key chains aren't made by the wielder and therefore a keyblade could have been in existence since the beginning of time.
It most likely depends on the person, realm, and power. Remember there are lots of Keyblades from either realm so its hard to tell. Although I believe that its possible for two different wielders from two different time periods to wield the same Key if their heart, realm, and powers are similar, maybe its possible for people to wield the same Keyblade over periods of time.

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The 4 "Concepts" or whatever are Darkness, Light, Inbetween or "Twilight", and Present.
Most likely, although we have yet to see the Present World or its Key but maybe Keyblades really can be based off of that world.
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Okay, you got me on the Kairi Twilight thing I guess. But I still believe that the secret ending can't be in the past...I think the WTD that BHS picked up is fresh after Riku died or whatever...

Somewhat thought about theory: What if the keyblades from all the keybladers go to this...crossroads place once thier wielders die or vanish or whatever. I'm thinking that Mickey, Riku and Sora didn't die, but just vanished...became something else.... Thiers still had the Keychains, so...idk, thier soul was still intact? The reason I say this is because Fenrir is in the cross roads...with no keychain...idk, just something i"m working on.

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I made a theory like that, but who suggested that Kairi's Keyblade came from the inbetween? But the Secret Ending most likely took place in the past. In the second Secret Ending, Mickey arrived with his Star Seeker Key, that proved that Mickey did not vanish. Remember the Keyblades in the first Secret Ending did belong to Sora, Riku, and Mickey, but they did not reappear in the continuation of the Secret Ending.

Its possible that those Keyblades were used as concepts to explain that the 3 Knights are similar to Sora, Riku, and Mickey by the roads and paths their powers represents. You never know, perhaps the Kingdom Key, the darkness realm's Key, and the Way to Dawn was used in the past. But Xehanort's memories has something to do with the Secret Endings and his memories are in the past.
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darkness-xehanort
twilight-mickey
dawn-riku
light-sora

kairi's keyblade was just a copy of riku's keyblade
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:40 PM   #14
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^We don't know anything about Kairi's Keyblade, how could you say its a copy of Riku's?

We are not trying to focus on Xehanort right now. But Mickey's Keyblade comes from the realm of darkness. Dawn is the same as inbetween. I believe we came up with terms like the Twilight Keyblade wielder or so I would like to believe. Riku is the inbetween Keyblade wielder.
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that is a good theory but a few thing bother me. is it official that the keyblades depend on the realms?
and i thought nomura said that it was in the past but also in the future.?
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