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Old 04-06-2007, 02:29 AM   #1
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Ok so here's one of my many theories (I'll post up more later...a lot more...hopefully). Some of these may contradict some of the other theories but they are just separate thoughts, but some go together.

Theory #1


Kairi Theories
1. Namine is a fake Nobody because she was created through Sora, not directly from Kairi.-and she
looks similar to Roxas
2. Kairi is actually a Nobody(this could work with 3).-She doesn't remember her past and arrived
during the meteor shower.
3. Kairi actually remembers her past.- In typical anime when the camera focuses on just the mouth
its a sign of lying.
4. The Female Knight is the full "Kairi"- She arrived at Destiny Islands on the meteor shower and thus
must be a Keyblade Master and because of #2 and 3
5. The Female Knight is Kairi's true Nobody.- theory #1
6. Kairi Has a direct relation to Ansem(real).- she came from Radiant Gardens and she is a princess.

Sora Theories
1. Sora has a direct relation to Xehanort.- ES has similar characteristics as Sora

Riku Theories
1. The Black/Red Warrior in the Secret Movie is the clone that Vexen created (Anti-Riku).- do you
really need a reason
2. The reason that "Anti-Riku" wears a mask is due to the fact that he want to be his own
person.-#1
3. Riku has a direct relation to Xehanort.- the whole darkness thing
4. Riku has a direct relation to Ansem(real).-#3
5. Anti-Riku is "mentored' my the Madman the same was Riku was with DiZ and Ansem the Wise.

Xehanort Theories
1. ES is Xehanort's true self.
2. The Xehanorts that Sora fights in KH 1&2 are fake.- it is stated that all heartless created by the
machine have the insignia of a Heartless
3. ES is Xehanort's true Nobody.
4.Xehanort himself is a Nobody like Roxas.(When Ansem found him he had no memories)
5. Xehanort is a Keyblade Master.-in one of the Other Ansem Reports(forgot which) Ansem says
that Xehanort is a special person
6. Xehanort has personal issues with the "Madman"(the Mage in the secret movie)
7. Xehanort is similar to Riku (controls darkness at will)
8. The Xehanorts that Sora has fought are clones, similar to Anti-Riku, that have been made by the
Madman.-Basically like #2
9. The Madman is actually the Xehanort heartless that Sora fought in KH1 that has grown older.-#2

Ansem Theories
1. Ansem the Wise is fake. - He looks similar to Namine and #6 of Kairi Theories
2. All of the Ansem reports are fake (Other Ansem Report #13 states the name Ansem, which if it
was real, then Ansem would not have needed to state his own name)
3. The real Ansem is the "Madman"
4. The real Ansem is still unknown.
5. The real Ansem is the unknown voice in the Dark Corridor.

OK so here's 26 different theories (for now). I will post up more when I remember the others.
please give me feedback


*UPDATED THEORIES*

Xehanort Theories

1.Xehanort is "No Heart" with an X in it.
2. Xehanort is the "original Heartless"- Theory 1 and because he has no memories from the past.
3. ES is the "original 'Xehanort'"
4. ES the the real Nobody of "Xehanort"

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Old 04-06-2007, 05:00 AM   #2
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wont u give any support to your theorys
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Yeah. You don't really have any evidence to support your theories. These are weak and like guesses.
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Old 04-06-2007, 05:43 AM   #4
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the thing is that some of those can be true because it takes place in the past
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Old 04-06-2007, 05:53 AM   #5
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Ur..... i kinda don't agree on da theory about namine. Everyone knows that namine is kairi's nobody. ....Right?
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Old 04-06-2007, 06:27 AM   #6
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how was namine created by sora....

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Quote:
1. Namine is a fake Nobody because she was created through Sora, not directly from Kairi.
This is already proven, they specifically stated this in Kingdom Hearts 2
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Old 04-06-2007, 09:45 AM   #8
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You didn't post theories; you posted either facts or random guesses. You need to support any guesses you have with evidence to make it a well-rounded explanation...which makes it a theory. ;)
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:04 AM   #9
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Ok Ok people chill out

My parents were getting mad at me cuz I was using their PC at 12 so I had to write these up fast, I'll post up reasons in a bit.

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Here's my theory. Bear with me here it is long and has many facetes, so it may be considered in a sense a long new theory of my own with some others mixed in and justified.

I think that the FS and BHS are new because Nomura said they weren't people we know, just connected in some way to people we know. Maybe the brown haired guy is Xehanort before he lost his memories and some weird event turned his hair white. Either that or he’s a brand new character, or related to Sora. Then again, the BHS could be related to Sora because he looks so much like Roxas, and Roxas and Sora look like they could be related because they are created from the same being. This would just mean Sora got his brown hair from his mother’s side or something. Nomura did say this was a prequel, so maybe the Mickey shown is one from the past or the present gone to the past and the other soldier characters are either the original or one of the first few keyblade wielders and the purpose of showing them is to start a new series to explain the origin of the keyblades, heartless, nobodies, the door to the light, and all other enigmatic Kindom Hearts terms.

The lost two could be the other two characters who die or are "lost" in some way after this battle, or they could represent the bad guys who are "lost" because they're evil, although the heartless thing seems to have been created by the bad old guy. Chasers could be a new name for either the bad guys or the goods for this new thing, and Xehanort's memories the key, and what we're seeing, also part of the keyblade wars. Master of the keyblade could have been a reason for the war to determine, or he was a participant. Birth by sleep obviously deals with the Xemnas room with the armored remains which seem in need of awakening, which is what the awakening room Xemnas is searching for is for.

The odd thing is Sora fights the strongest one, the brown haired one, which you can tell by his stature and helmet. I think the path Sora takes is into the past, just like him going into the past to see the building of Mickey's castle and save the corner stone of light (black and white world). Another possible reason for Xehanort change in hair color could be that something happens to him. This would also explain the change in his name to resemble a nobody and a person of importance regarding kingdom hearts (anyone/no heart + X). Maybe he gave up his memories for some reason, or did some sort of sacrifice to save the world cause him to lose his heart and memories and then be reformed into a new person far away.

Someone else suggested that the ES somehow merged with the UEM. This makes sense to me because it could explain the change in hair color among other things. Maybe the ES fights the UEM and the UEM is about to die, so he somehow puts a piece of himself into the ES and a completely new person is made with a new heart. The trouble is this would not explain why the ES still exists and why he tells Sora that he despises Xehanort if he is the body that creates Xehanort according to this theory. Maybe Xehanort is the nobody of the ES through similar sacrificial means that Sora went through which would leave the body of the ES intact. This could make the role of the FS similar to Kairi’s role when she saved Sora. The heart of the UEM could have inhabited this nobody. This would allow for Xehanort a heart and therefore a nobody for himself later on.

This is similar to the theory that Xehanort is a nobody to the brown haired armored knight in the same way Roxas is a nobody to Sora. I believe that Roxas did have a heart, but he only had a heart through Sora, in a sense (the other side of his heart), and this is why Sora felt nostalgic in Twilight Town. I believe the case with Xehanort is similar, which would make him able to have a nobody (Xemnas). The connections are there; both forgot their original selves, and both of their somebody was still whole again after they were created. This would also match his nobody name of either another + X or no heart + X. When Xehanort abandoned his connection to his heart, a nobody and a heartless were created in the process. This would also explain why Xehanort’s heartless was the only kind in human form and so strong (extenuating circumstances screwing up the usual process just like with the Namine and Kairi situation). Not to mention the fact that the heart of the original somebody (ES) is very strong. I hold to this theory the most because it has the fewest discrepancies.

Either way, the door to the light must eventually be explained, and I believe the ultimate goal is to find the original pure light that is supposedly in kingdom hearts or in the door to the light itself. I believe this should bring about the re connection of all the worlds in peace just like Kairi’s grandmother said. They fought over the original light in the beginning and split. It should be the keyblade master’s goal to rejoin the worlds, which would put an end to the heartless. This would explain Sora’s connection to the door to the light as a keyblade master of the keyblade from the world of the light. The enigmatic voice of the first game did say he would open the door to the light, and he hasn’t “REALLY” done this yet. I keep thinking Sora is so special (The great hero).
Chick has dark world keyblade.
Blonde has twilight keyblade.
Brown big guy has light world keyblade.

I wonder if we’re ever going to see the parents of these three and witness their worry and confusion as to where their children have been…or do they already know and therefore have no reason to worry. I mean we know at least Sora has a mother, even if he may have been adopted, we don’t know. Kair’s a princess; she should so try to find her parents on Radiant Gardens! Maybe Nomura Believes they would get in the way of the story or are not needed for it at all. We haven’t even seen their faces, and Kairi never talked about being asked by Sora’s or Riku’s parents where they were.

Anyways, that's enough for my theories. It would be tragic if Xehanort was originally the ultimate good guy and became the ultimate bad guy (in a sense it was him, TWICE in two forms). That would mean all this time he's been looking for the memories of his lost somebody because he's been trying to regain his heart. Although Xehanort probably wasn't even his original form's name before he lost his memories because this name can be jumbled up to be no heart or another without the X. The old friend could be his former fighting buddy in a past life, or even his former self (doubt it by the size of the armor shown though) And by the way, the blond haired guy wasn't dead yet, his eyes still moved a little, and the only thing that broke off on his fall down was his key and his helmet. He still has a small chance to live. It looked like those two characters had the hots for each other when he was about to be frozen, and when he was in the girls arms.

Seriously, that is enough with more of my theorizing. I hate waiting, especially since I know it will be a long while. I really hope KHII FM+ and Re:Com come to America! I hope this is a movie or something too since it's not going to be called KHIII. It will be a while before I get a PS3, and I don't want to wait long after something new comes out. I love that it's probably a prequel, but that means no Sora !!!
*tear* *tear*… yet another reason why I hope it's a movie. I fear I will be too busy and grow out of video games by the time something new comes out! :( This better not become an extended series like final fantasy. I’ll be way too old before I can learn all the secrets behind Kingdom Hearts and I’ll become disinterested! Nomura said this wouldn’t happen, and I hope he doesn’t change his mind. He better end it with this new project and KHIII (I hope).

Now that I think about it more, a new series would be fun, and this is what Nomura seems to have in mind, but it would most likely be a prequel series ending with Sora and his final journey to save the universe and gain back the original light that Kairi's mother talked about. I really believe he'll end with Sora because I think he has grown attached to Sora as the ultimate hero in the end. Heck, he even has his ES complimenting the strength in Sora's heart after you defeat him (albeit a rather obscure compliment). I would love to see a prequel series explaining the origin of heartless, nobodies, kingdom hearts itslef, the door to the light, and everything else that is unexplained, but I hope it will end (eventually) with Sora and the adventure dealing with the letter he received and also him finally opening the door to the light for the sake of the whole worlds.

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Old 04-06-2007, 12:08 PM   #11
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Namine isn't exactly a nobody, yes, but she is still created from Kairi losing her heart and is therefore connected to Kairi, but also to Sora. She's like a two in one (weird), but so is Roxas. Keep in mind she was created from the heart of a princess and can therefore have no darkness in her, where as Sora could have had darkness in his heart (albeit very little) when Roxas was created. Roxas is a different kind of nobady as well because he doesn't remember his true self and his somebody still exists. This leads some to believe he technically has a heart. After all, I always thought you needed a strong heart to control a keyblade. Wasn't this practically a requirement (not entirely sure on this one). Namine created through Sora himself and Kairi's heart, and Roxas created through Kairi herself and Sora's heart. This makes both an exception to the rule (an anomaly as Ansem the Wise put it). I always wondered what happened to Sora's body when it disappeared (and how he got one back) and the bodies of all the unknowns.

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well since this started with nobodies and heartless....i was thinking about it and....what happened 2 rikyu in KH I? he had a heartless symbol on his chest, like various other heartless, which leads me 2 think that, for a time, he was one.....or was he simply posessed by ansem(fake)? if he was a hertless then he'd have a nobody....right?
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Kairi a nobody lol,and what does the bracketed (real) mean?
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Old 04-06-2007, 01:36 PM   #14
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Um my theory is this person Xeahnort?Tryed to bring back his friends cause if he was fake he may have been a nobody with good feelings towards the soldiers as apposed to bad ones or something lol.
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The ES said himself that he hated Xehanort.

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