Kh3 Theory It's Good... I Think!!!

Bops1234 · April 6th, 2007, 04:06 AM

Okay, what's up fellas? I've been trying to think of a theory to show off to people on here. I think I finally came up with a good one. Well here it goes...

First of all, I think KH3 is going to be a future-past collaboration. Even though people say it's all in the past, I stick true to this. The reason I say this is because look how old the elder mage is. But the mage is a whole other point. And notice from that guy how he looks like the impostor Ansem from KH. But the impostor Ansem from the first game was the heart of someone. We know that. We also know that the the Xehanort we see in KH2 is a nobody of some being. Now what I think is that what this mage may be is the soul. In KH2, we see the last few reports of Ansem talking about how he not only thinks there are two parts to a being but there are indeed three; these being the heart, body, and soul. It would make sense to see how old that mage was because all of the darkness, spitefulness, hatred, evil emotions like that, make people seem old. That could just be how old his soul is. Not necessarily the full being himself. Okay that's established.

Secondly, we can assume that we know that Sora and Riku are somehow connected with this. When the elder mage makes his dark soldier, he looks somewhat similar to Riku. (clothing wise) Also we see that the Blonde-Haired Soldier looks just like Roxas & Sora, however you want to say it. But today, I was talking with a few people and someone said that the Enigmatic Soldier seems to look like someone that we've seen before, I can't remember who it was right now, though. (I'll try to get that info.) So through all this, we know that this is somehow connected with what we already know, in more ways than we know.

Third of all, I think that those three soldiers are people from the past. Now the whole reason I talked about the elder mage being old in my first point is because of his age. Now, what if this guy has been waiting for a long long long time to achieve his goal of getting Kingdom Hearts? He would indeed have to be an old man. Those three soldiers, could possibly be from the past. Or in fact they might be from the future because they know what is to come because of the elder mage's actions. This whole point came to me when I saw Mickey at the end of the movie. Dang, he looked P.O.'d.

From all of this, this is my basic summary:

1. It takes place in the present time we know of Kingdom Hearts 1 & or 2 or there's a possibility of it being in the future or past depending on my other points.

2. That elder mage is the soul of the original being of the nobody Xehanort and the heartless impostor Ansem.

3. These characters are definitely connected with a few people we know from KH2 AND KH.

Well I tried with this, lol. Tell me what you think.
I'll try to get some more info and I'll update.
Thanks.

Meteora · April 6th, 2007, 04:13 AM

In the Secret Ansem Reports, it says the body and soul are two things that are needed to create a nobody, so I don't think the old man is any part of Xehanort.

Bops1234 · April 6th, 2007, 04:15 AM

But wasn't the first impostor Ansem the heartless of him?
Bcuz in KH2 doesn't it say there are three things that make up a being?
I think it's like report 10 or 11 something like that.

Enigmacy · April 6th, 2007, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meteora

In the Secret Ansem Reports, it says the body and soul are two things that are needed to create a nobody

If I remember correctly, Ansem said only the empty shell is needed to create a Nobody.xD

Ansem asked himself: "If the body and heart are left behind, what is to become of the soul?"

In all, your theory can be true and then it has flaws. What flaws? I'll need to study your theory more. But it sounds good so far. =]

Meteora · April 6th, 2007, 04:21 AM

In SAR #7, it says when a Heartless is born, the body and soul left behind are reborn as a nobody.

Enigmacy · April 6th, 2007, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meteora

In SAR #7, it says when a Heartless is born, the body and soul left behind are reborn as a nobody.

Hmmm......You could be right. I'll need to check up on it. =]

Oblivionite · April 6th, 2007, 04:23 AM

Well..yeah the soldiers could have been sent back in time to fight the old man, but what if the old man was sent in back in time to fight the soldiers?

Meteora · April 6th, 2007, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tallian

If I remember correctly, Ansem said only the empty shell is needed to create a Nobody.xD

Ansem asked himself: "If the body and heart are left behind, what is to become of the soul?"

In all, your theory can be true and then it has flaws. What flaws? I'll need to study your theory more. But it sounds good so far. =]

Maybe Ansem contradicts himself in his reports. In #10, he says the body and soul are required for a nobody to exist.

Kaengex · April 6th, 2007, 04:31 AM

Well We really wont know Anything new until Nomura Tells us. Really speculating is all we have for right now. WE wont know anything until at least summer of this year.

Enigmacy · April 6th, 2007, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meteora

Maybe Ansem contradicts himself in his reports. In #10, he says the body and soul are required for a nobody to exist.

Found it and your right. =D

Quote:

When a Heartless is born, the body and soul left behind are reborn into this world as a different being.

I'm glad we got that solved.

Bops1234 · April 6th, 2007, 04:32 AM

Ah.. I see. That's pretty cool.
You guys are good.
Thanks for the feedback so far.
Let's elaborate a bit more too.

Oblivionite good point. That's always a possibility of the old man being sent back in time instead of the soldiers being sent forward.

Synchro · April 6th, 2007, 04:33 AM

That said, I wonder what would happen if you could strip a Nobody of its soul...maybe the Nobody would become just a dead puppet...(sounds like a Banette, lol)

Maybe they can use the souls for something.

Bops1234 · April 6th, 2007, 04:42 AM

That's exactly what I was thinking.
What if you could manifest something out of the soul?
A soulless maybe? lol

Athletics Legend · April 6th, 2007, 05:28 AM

maybe a memory...

I believe that the old man is a embodied memory of Xehanort...

Also, the letter that sora and co. recieve at the ending could have been about kingdom hearts being opened by the old man..

Synchro · April 6th, 2007, 05:30 AM

I dunno...I suddenly got this image of the letter being like that letter that Marty McFly got at the end of Back to the Future 2...where we find out that Doc Brown went back in time...

April 6th, 2007, 04:13 AM	#2
Meteora Warrior of Darkness Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 107 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Kh3 Theory It's Good... I Think!!! In the Secret Ansem Reports, it says the body and soul are two things that are needed to create a nobody, so I don't think the old man is any part of Xehanort.

April 6th, 2007, 04:15 AM	#3
Bops1234 Court Mage Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 18 Posts: 33 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Kh3 Theory It's Good... I Think!!! But wasn't the first impostor Ansem the heartless of him? Bcuz in KH2 doesn't it say there are three things that make up a being? I think it's like report 10 or 11 something like that.

April 6th, 2007, 04:21 AM	#5
Meteora Warrior of Darkness Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 107 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Kh3 Theory It's Good... I Think!!! In SAR #7, it says when a Heartless is born, the body and soul left behind are reborn as a nobody.

April 6th, 2007, 04:31 AM	#9
Kaengex Heartless Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Long Lost Distant Memories Age: 18 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Kh3 Theory It's Good... I Think!!! Well We really wont know Anything new until Nomura Tells us. Really speculating is all we have for right now. WE wont know anything until at least summer of this year.

April 6th, 2007, 04:32 AM	#11
Bops1234 Court Mage Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 18 Posts: 33 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Kh3 Theory It's Good... I Think!!! Ah.. I see. That's pretty cool. You guys are good. Thanks for the feedback so far. Let's elaborate a bit more too. Oblivionite good point. That's always a possibility of the old man being sent back in time instead of the soldiers being sent forward.

April 6th, 2007, 04:06 AM	#1
Bops1234 Court Mage Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 18 Posts: 33 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Kh3 Theory It's Good... I Think!!! Okay, what's up fellas? I've been trying to think of a theory to show off to people on here. I think I finally came up with a good one. Well here it goes... First of all, I think KH3 is going to be a future-past collaboration. Even though people say it's all in the past, I stick true to this. The reason I say this is because look how old the elder mage is. But the mage is a whole other point. And notice from that guy how he looks like the impostor Ansem from KH. But the impostor Ansem from the first game was the heart of someone. We know that. We also know that the the Xehanort we see in KH2 is a nobody of some being. Now what I think is that what this mage may be is the soul. In KH2, we see the last few reports of Ansem talking about how he not only thinks there are two parts to a being but there are indeed three; these being the heart, body, and soul. It would make sense to see how old that mage was because all of the darkness, spitefulness, hatred, evil emotions like that, make people seem old. That could just be how old his soul is. Not necessarily the full being himself. Okay that's established. Secondly, we can assume that we know that Sora and Riku are somehow connected with this. When the elder mage makes his dark soldier, he looks somewhat similar to Riku. (clothing wise) Also we see that the Blonde-Haired Soldier looks just like Roxas & Sora, however you want to say it. But today, I was talking with a few people and someone said that the Enigmatic Soldier seems to look like someone that we've seen before, I can't remember who it was right now, though. (I'll try to get that info.) So through all this, we know that this is somehow connected with what we already know, in more ways than we know. Third of all, I think that those three soldiers are people from the past. Now the whole reason I talked about the elder mage being old in my first point is because of his age. Now, what if this guy has been waiting for a long long long time to achieve his goal of getting Kingdom Hearts? He would indeed have to be an old man. Those three soldiers, could possibly be from the past. Or in fact they might be from the future because they know what is to come because of the elder mage's actions. This whole point came to me when I saw Mickey at the end of the movie. Dang, he looked P.O.'d. From all of this, this is my basic summary: 1. It takes place in the present time we know of Kingdom Hearts 1 & or 2 or there's a possibility of it being in the future or past depending on my other points. 2. That elder mage is the soul of the original being of the nobody Xehanort and the heartless impostor Ansem. 3. These characters are definitely connected with a few people we know from KH2 AND KH. Well I tried with this, lol. Tell me what you think. I'll try to get some more info and I'll update. Thanks.

April 6th, 2007, 04:23 AM	#7
Oblivionite Dual Wielder Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kingdom Hearts Age: 17 Posts: 685 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Kh3 Theory It's Good... I Think!!! Well..yeah the soldiers could have been sent back in time to fight the old man, but what if the old man was sent in back in time to fight the soldiers?

April 6th, 2007, 04:33 AM	#12
Synchro Keyblade Weilder Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Twilight Town Age: 20 Posts: 321 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Kh3 Theory It's Good... I Think!!! That said, I wonder what would happen if you could strip a Nobody of its soul...maybe the Nobody would become just a dead puppet...(sounds like a Banette, lol) Maybe they can use the souls for something.

April 6th, 2007, 04:42 AM	#13
Bops1234 Court Mage Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 18 Posts: 33 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Kh3 Theory It's Good... I Think!!! That's exactly what I was thinking. What if you could manifest something out of the soul? A soulless maybe? lol

April 6th, 2007, 05:30 AM	#15
Synchro Keyblade Weilder Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Twilight Town Age: 20 Posts: 321 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Kh3 Theory It's Good... I Think!!! I dunno...I suddenly got this image of the letter being like that letter that Marty McFly got at the end of Back to the Future 2...where we find out that Doc Brown went back in time...

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