Secret Ending Information Compilation (Spoilers+56k) - Page 15

cream_sugar · April 7th, 2007, 06:18 PM

I know this is really old and no one will never read it but I got to say it and I proably will post it some place else for posterity sake. BUT IF I DON'T SAY IT NOW I'LL GO INSANE!!!! Alright, four years back, in an issue of Game Informer Magazine, there was a article on KHII. This was back when no one knew who Roxas was. They claimed that Roxas was the Keyblade Master Apprentice or something like that. However, we now know that's not true. But, what if (that is if the secret trailer for the next KH is taking place in the past) the Egnimiatic (sorry, can't spell) soldier was the original Keyblade Master and the blonde haired knight was his apprentice. If the blonde haired knight was killed (I'm not sure as his eyes do move) but brought back to life as Sora he then became the Keyblade Master. While Sora himself doesn't look like the young knight, his Nobody, Roxas does.
ALL MY GOSH I THINK I'M ON TO SOMETHING HERE!!!!
please note that this is mere speculation but STILL!!!

ReverseRebirth · April 7th, 2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cream_sugar

I know this is really old and no one will never read it but I got to say it and I proably will post it some place else for posterity sake. BUT IF I DON'T SAY IT NOW I'LL GO INSANE!!!! Alright, four years back, in an issue of Game Informer Magazine, there was a article on KHII. This was back when no one knew who Roxas was. They claimed that Roxas was the Keyblade Master Apprentice or something like that. However, we now know that's not true. But, what if (that is if the secret trailer for the next KH is taking place in the past) the Egnimiatic (sorry, can't spell) soldier was the original Keyblade Master and the blonde haired knight was his apprentice. If the blonde haired knight was killed (I'm not sure as his eyes do move) but brought back to life as Sora he then became the Keyblade Master. While Sora himself doesn't look like the young knight, his Nobody, Roxas does.
ALL MY GOSH I THINK I'M ON TO SOMETHING HERE!!!!
please note that this is mere speculation but STILL!!!

I'm in love with this theory.. I hadn't really thought of anything like that.. and you are totally sure it says that in the magizine? Good job on thinking back:thumbsup:

Topaz-Jo · April 7th, 2007, 07:29 PM

Quote:

I know this is really old and no one will never read it but I got to say it and I proably will post it some place else for posterity sake. BUT IF I DON'T SAY IT NOW I'LL GO INSANE!!!! Alright, four years back, in an issue of Game Informer Magazine, there was a article on KHII. This was back when no one knew who Roxas was. They claimed that Roxas was the Keyblade Master Apprentice or something like that. However, we now know that's not true. But, what if (that is if the secret trailer for the next KH is taking place in the past) the Egnimiatic (sorry, can't spell) soldier was the original Keyblade Master and the blonde haired knight was his apprentice. If the blonde haired knight was killed (I'm not sure as his eyes do move) but brought back to life as Sora he then became the Keyblade Master. While Sora himself doesn't look like the young knight, his Nobody, Roxas does.
ALL MY GOSH I THINK I'M ON TO SOMETHING HERE!!!!
please note that this is mere speculation but STILL!!!

True, you are onto summing.
I was thinking that he was some ancestor of Sora, but he does look more like Roxas as you commented. He is a splitting image!

cream_sugar · April 7th, 2007, 07:34 PM

Yes, I'm sure, but now I can't find it!!! :cursing: I riped it out and everything (even had it posted on my wall) It's the issue for GI Novemeber 2003 that has a guy and a wolf with the cover issue best 50 game of the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube ever! (Kingdom Hearts was 11) sob...

While I'm at it, my friend Andrew (a complete KH nerd like me) says that the knight is still alive. Although I'm not sure, as his eyes do move, this could be a reaction of his subconscious being complete frozen (his body I mean...). It could be an attempt for Square to trick us. However, the knight, in theory, can be revive since people burried in avalanches can be revive up to three hours after their heart had stopped due to cold temperature (if there is no body damage). Thought I doubt Square would use something as heavy as cryogentics in their plots.

Nintendo_Tom64 · April 7th, 2007, 09:03 PM

This is a bit improbable, but I'll say it anyway. What if the brown-haired Knight (who i would assume would eventually turn into Xehanort) somehow fused with the Old Mage? This would explain Xehanorts skin colour, white hair, and why his heartless wears the same clothes as the Old Mage. But, like I said - improbable:toungesmile:

Havick 075 · April 7th, 2007, 11:08 PM

in KH: Final Mix they added more Ansem Reports, clarifying that Ansem sent Kairi away from their homeworld to find the Keyblade, that explains why kairi arrived at detinsy island but somehting happened to whipe her memory... maby they'll add more knowledge on to everything that happened back in the day when it all started.

ReekingAwsomness · April 8th, 2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by amarao

*Evil dude has yellow eyes

*ES has blue eyes which turn yellow

*Evil dude seems to be able to separate himself into 2 forms (possibly into a heartless and a nobody form?)

Thanks dude...that last line was the clincher. I'm almost certain now that the lost two refer to xehanort and the bald bloke....and the reasoning is nothing to do with there dress sense =P

Remember that xehanorts heartless was special, because it could still think like a person... the bald blokes heartless (assuming thats what it is ofcourse) can quite clearly do the same. Perhaps they're like the last remnanats of an old race...or from a different 'world' (the bald bloke reminds me of the geezer from final fantasy 9)

I think its also fairly clear that this new video follows on almost seemlessly from the other secret ending....although why is the tallest soldier only carrying one keyblade? Perhaos it owuld be good to look at them as a whole.

It would surprise me if this was happening during the events of the 3 existing games.....Sora or the order would have caught wind of it. Perhaps a pararlel universe/Realm of darkness type thing?!

Also do people think that these are the only 3 soldiers of their kind, or are there many more?

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in KH: Final Mix they added more Ansem Reports, clarifying that Ansem sent Kairi away from their homeworld to find the Keyblade, that explains why kairi arrived at detinsy island but somehting happened to whipe her memory... maby they'll add more knowledge on to everything that happened back in the day when it all started.

Kairi lost her memory cos of what namine did to sora in castle oblivion. Isnt that explained in KH2. When namine meddled with soras memories it mucked up the memories of the poeple connected iwht him.

roxasbhs · April 8th, 2007, 01:01 AM

i think this game is gonna be held in the future because in the first part of the tralier the three keyblades on the ground were rikus sora and mickeys keyblades . The E.S picks up soras keyblade
the F.S picks up mickeys and the B.H.S picks up rikus keyblade also in the second part why don't they use them i mean they're not even there anymore

roxasbhs · April 8th, 2007, 01:15 AM

I f you beaten the E .S soldier at the end he says that he hates Xehanort alot and that he was the chosen one any info on what he means

bladed asassin · April 8th, 2007, 01:29 AM

hey... wat if that happens in the past allright.. that secret trailor... if you remember the deep dive has riku and roxas fighting right and that took place before the actual game ... soo maybe this allready happen okay.. now, xeahnorts heartless can act on his own right.. so when he was release by ansem the wise from ruki's body..then he would of fallen into darkness.. now, sora defeated xemnas soo his nobody fell into darkness.. now cuz a heartless is somone who lost there heart and a nobody is somone of a person without there heart then wouldn't that mean if they were some how able to fuss back to there original state they would become a person again... tell me wat ya think of it this theory .

Rokkusasu · April 8th, 2007, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bladed asassin

hey... wat if that happens in the past allright.. that secret trailor... if you remember the deep dive has riku and roxas fighting right and that took place before the actual game ... soo maybe this allready happen okay.. now, xeahnorts heartless can act on his own right.. so when he was release by ansem the wise from ruki's body..then he would of fallen into darkness.. now, sora defeated xemnas soo his nobody fell into darkness.. now cuz a heartless is somone who lost there heart and a nobody is somone of a person without there heart then wouldn't that mean if they were some how able to fuss back to there original state they would become a person again... tell me wat ya think of it this theory .

I agree with the part of xehanort's heartless falling into the darkness, but xemnas WAS a nobody, so he cant have a nobody to fall into darkness and he was defeated/killed, so he cant merge with the one who fell into darkness. what i think is that xehanort's heartless fell into dakness and is the old man, and the other power ranger-like thing is another heartless, remember how he had a hearless slave in KH who covered him as he was floating everywhere? my other theory is that ansem the wise survived, so he cut his hair and/or has cancer, he got naughty and attacked the knights XD

Havick 075 · April 8th, 2007, 04:41 AM

Lol. No what i mean is Ya in COM kairis could have got her memory ****ed up but she forgot about hallow bation/radiant gardens before that because in KH1 she arrived on the iland 2 years earlier or soemthing and didnt know where she was.

Here are some aprt tehories of mine... PLEASE ELABORATE!!

The E.S. when first encountered by sora in the optional fight He 'mistakes' sora for Xehanort, so it's safe to assume Sora's heart and Xehanort's heart's are both very unique and powerful hearts (Said by Ansem the Wise that Xehanort had a unique and powerful heart) but sora never kept his form as a heartless like xehanort did tho so maby there's some kinda of blurry connection there... dunno...

If there is a so called 'third' party/enemy of division in a person when they 'lose their heart to darkness' then they are assumingly called the "Chasers" meaning there is a third party to everyone... and here's something to go along with:: that a HEARTLESS is created from a persons lost HEART a NOBODY is created by a persons lost BODY so maby a CHASER is created from a persons lost MIND or MEMORY?? anyway, i think the following can be considered:

(NE = None-existant)
Original ------ Heartless ----- Nobody ----- Chaser
Xehanort ------ Ansem (died in KH:1 NE) ----- Xemnas (Died in KH2 NE) ----- ??E.S.?? or ??U.E.M.??
Sora ------ The Shadow Hearltess in KH1 NE ---- Roxas (Formed back with sora) ----- ??B.H.S.??
Kairi ------ Hearltess never created NE ----- Namine (Formed back with Kairi) ----- ??F.S.??

please tlel me what you think!

cream_sugar · April 8th, 2007, 05:26 AM

About it taking place in the past...
King Mickey was training under Yen Sid right? And Yen Sid (kinda) gave Sora the Star Seeker Keyblade? Well what if King Mickey was training under Yen Sid at the time and was using the Star Seeker Keyblade (as in training) (i'm repeating myself aren't I?)? That would mean all the events were in the past!

Havick 075 · April 8th, 2007, 06:51 AM

Everything everyone is saying has already been stated previously on this thread... try reading everything before calculateing a theory.

cream_sugar · April 15th, 2007, 05:38 PM

Guys, I just thought of something...
This is a poem by William Blake, called Aguries of Innocence or something like that.
The first four lines might sound familiar if you seen the Tomb Raider Movies:

"To see a world in a grain of sand,
And a heaven in a wild flower,
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand,
An eternity in an hour."

If you think about it, there are some allusions to KH.

April 7th, 2007, 06:18 PM	#211
cream_sugar Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: i'm flying off to neverland! whoo-hoo! Posts: 142 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Secret Ending Information Compilation (Spoilers+56k) I know this is really old and no one will never read it but I got to say it and I proably will post it some place else for posterity sake. BUT IF I DON'T SAY IT NOW I'LL GO INSANE!!!! Alright, four years back, in an issue of Game Informer Magazine, there was a article on KHII. This was back when no one knew who Roxas was. They claimed that Roxas was the Keyblade Master Apprentice or something like that. However, we now know that's not true. But, what if (that is if the secret trailer for the next KH is taking place in the past) the Egnimiatic (sorry, can't spell) soldier was the original Keyblade Master and the blonde haired knight was his apprentice. If the blonde haired knight was killed (I'm not sure as his eyes do move) but brought back to life as Sora he then became the Keyblade Master. While Sora himself doesn't look like the young knight, his Nobody, Roxas does. ALL MY GOSH I THINK I'M ON TO SOMETHING HERE!!!! please note that this is mere speculation but STILL!!!

April 7th, 2007, 07:34 PM	#214
cream_sugar Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: i'm flying off to neverland! whoo-hoo! Posts: 142 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Secret Ending Information Compilation (Spoilers+56k) Yes, I'm sure, but now I can't find it!!! :cursing: I riped it out and everything (even had it posted on my wall) It's the issue for GI Novemeber 2003 that has a guy and a wolf with the cover issue best 50 game of the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube ever! (Kingdom Hearts was 11) sob... While I'm at it, my friend Andrew (a complete KH nerd like me) says that the knight is still alive. Although I'm not sure, as his eyes do move, this could be a reaction of his subconscious being complete frozen (his body I mean...). It could be an attempt for Square to trick us. However, the knight, in theory, can be revive since people burried in avalanches can be revive up to three hours after their heart had stopped due to cold temperature (if there is no body damage). Thought I doubt Square would use something as heavy as cryogentics in their plots.

April 7th, 2007, 09:03 PM	#215
Nintendo_Tom64 Heartless Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 20 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Secret Ending Information Compilation (Spoilers+56k) This is a bit improbable, but I'll say it anyway. What if the brown-haired Knight (who i would assume would eventually turn into Xehanort) somehow fused with the Old Mage? This would explain Xehanorts skin colour, white hair, and why his heartless wears the same clothes as the Old Mage. But, like I said - improbable:toungesmile:

April 7th, 2007, 11:08 PM	#216
Havick 075 Disney Soldier Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 19 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Secret Ending Information Compilation (Spoilers+56k) in KH: Final Mix they added more Ansem Reports, clarifying that Ansem sent Kairi away from their homeworld to find the Keyblade, that explains why kairi arrived at detinsy island but somehting happened to whipe her memory... maby they'll add more knowledge on to everything that happened back in the day when it all started.

April 8th, 2007, 01:01 AM	#218
roxasbhs Heartless Join Date: Mar 2007 Age: 18 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: KH2: FM+ Secret Ending Information Compilation and Name Abbreviations (Spoilers+5 i think this game is gonna be held in the future because in the first part of the tralier the three keyblades on the ground were rikus sora and mickeys keyblades . The E.S picks up soras keyblade the F.S picks up mickeys and the B.H.S picks up rikus keyblade also in the second part why don't they use them i mean they're not even there anymore Last edited by roxasbhs; April 8th, 2007 at 01:11 AM.

April 8th, 2007, 01:15 AM	#219
roxasbhs Heartless Join Date: Mar 2007 Age: 18 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: KH2: FM+ Secret Ending Information Compilation and Name Abbreviations (Spoilers+5 I f you beaten the E .S soldier at the end he says that he hates Xehanort alot and that he was the chosen one any info on what he means

April 8th, 2007, 01:29 AM	#220
bladed asassin Keyblade Wielder Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: pennslyvania Age: 16 Posts: 399 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Secret Ending Information Compilation (Spoilers+56k) hey... wat if that happens in the past allright.. that secret trailor... if you remember the deep dive has riku and roxas fighting right and that took place before the actual game ... soo maybe this allready happen okay.. now, xeahnorts heartless can act on his own right.. so when he was release by ansem the wise from ruki's body..then he would of fallen into darkness.. now, sora defeated xemnas soo his nobody fell into darkness.. now cuz a heartless is somone who lost there heart and a nobody is somone of a person without there heart then wouldn't that mean if they were some how able to fuss back to there original state they would become a person again... tell me wat ya think of it this theory .

April 8th, 2007, 04:41 AM	#222
Havick 075 Disney Soldier Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 19 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Secret Ending Information Compilation (Spoilers+56k) Lol. No what i mean is Ya in COM kairis could have got her memory ****ed up but she forgot about hallow bation/radiant gardens before that because in KH1 she arrived on the iland 2 years earlier or soemthing and didnt know where she was. Here are some aprt tehories of mine... PLEASE ELABORATE!! The E.S. when first encountered by sora in the optional fight He 'mistakes' sora for Xehanort, so it's safe to assume Sora's heart and Xehanort's heart's are both very unique and powerful hearts (Said by Ansem the Wise that Xehanort had a unique and powerful heart) but sora never kept his form as a heartless like xehanort did tho so maby there's some kinda of blurry connection there... dunno... If there is a so called 'third' party/enemy of division in a person when they 'lose their heart to darkness' then they are assumingly called the "Chasers" meaning there is a third party to everyone... and here's something to go along with:: that a HEARTLESS is created from a persons lost HEART a NOBODY is created by a persons lost BODY so maby a CHASER is created from a persons lost MIND or MEMORY?? anyway, i think the following can be considered: (NE = None-existant) Original ------ Heartless ----- Nobody ----- Chaser Xehanort ------ Ansem (died in KH:1 NE) ----- Xemnas (Died in KH2 NE) ----- ??E.S.?? or ??U.E.M.?? Sora ------ The Shadow Hearltess in KH1 NE ---- Roxas (Formed back with sora) ----- ??B.H.S.?? Kairi ------ Hearltess never created NE ----- Namine (Formed back with Kairi) ----- ??F.S.?? please tlel me what you think!

April 8th, 2007, 05:26 AM	#223
cream_sugar Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: i'm flying off to neverland! whoo-hoo! Posts: 142 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Secret Ending Information Compilation (Spoilers+56k) About it taking place in the past... King Mickey was training under Yen Sid right? And Yen Sid (kinda) gave Sora the Star Seeker Keyblade? Well what if King Mickey was training under Yen Sid at the time and was using the Star Seeker Keyblade (as in training) (i'm repeating myself aren't I?)? That would mean all the events were in the past!

April 8th, 2007, 06:51 AM	#224
Havick 075 Disney Soldier Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 19 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Secret Ending Information Compilation (Spoilers+56k) Everything everyone is saying has already been stated previously on this thread... try reading everything before calculateing a theory.

April 15th, 2007, 05:38 PM	#225
cream_sugar Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: i'm flying off to neverland! whoo-hoo! Posts: 142 Rep Power: 3 Level: EXP:	Re: Secret Ending Information Compilation (Spoilers+56k) Guys, I just thought of something... This is a poem by William Blake, called Aguries of Innocence or something like that. The first four lines might sound familiar if you seen the Tomb Raider Movies: "To see a world in a grain of sand, And a heaven in a wild flower, Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, An eternity in an hour." If you think about it, there are some allusions to KH.

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