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    **POSSIBLE SPOILERS?**


    Okay, so this is what I know for sure:

    - Terra and Aqua do the Keyblade Inheritance Ceremony with both Riku and Kairi respectively


    - Sora can wield a keyblade due to Ventus' heart residing alongside his own.


    - Roxas and Xion can wield keyblades because they are a part of Sora.


    Now here are my questions:

    - If the KIC is an "Inheritance" ceremony, does that mean that Riku's WTTD keyblade is actually Earthshaker with a keychain? Same with Kairi in recieving Rainfell?

    - Or does that mean that the Kingdom Key is the same as Earthshaker?

    - If that's not the case at all, where do these new keyblades com from, and do they only appear to the "chosen" or "inherited" wielders after an awakening?

    - Does this also mean that Keyblade wielders have the potential to wield any keyblade?

    - Or do all keyblades have some form of sentience of their own (or from their creator, like from a heart or something) that allows them to choose whether or not a person is worthy of wielding them.

    - One more thing, can a Keyblade master do the KIC more than once? I ask because it seems like that was the case between Eraqus and Terra and Aqua.

    - Also, Is it fair to assume that Yen Sid did the KIC with Mickey, and Xehanort with Ventus?



    Sorry about all the questions, but this has been bugging the hell out of me, and I haven't played DDD yet, so no spoilers please.

    If the answer to one of my questions is revealed in DDD, just tell me so. Thanks!
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    Default Re: Questions about Keyblades

    -Nomura actually said it is not because of Ven's heart that Sora can wield a Keyblade.

    -It's said there will be as many Keyblades as there are people worthy enough to wield them, so all of the Keyblades are their own.

    -I believe they do have the potential to wield any Keyblade, I mean Aqua wielded the Master Keeper and Sora used the Way to Dawn.

    -The Keyblade does seem to have some sort of sentience in choosing its Master, we saw that issue in KH1. Though it does seem like, as I mentioned before, if the wielder (or maybe Keyblade itself?) wills it someone else may wield their Keyblade. Sora also seemed to allow Jack Sparrow to hold onto his Keyblade for a little before summoning it back.

    -I'm not sure about this. But I would assume so.

    -I never really thought about that to be honest. But that sounds likely. I really don't know who else would have performed it :P

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    Cool, thanks for the reply. But I just thought of something, could keyblades maybe be forged of the heart? Like individually? it would explain how Riku's kind of just materialized out of his own sword.

    I don't suppose that it could come from JUST the heart, but maybe with the right catalysts, the heart is where each keyblade actually comes from for each individual wielder. Maybe?

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    Although, i still haven't got a clue as to where the hell Kingdom Key D origininated, I mean, I know it's the only Keyblade known to date that is an actual "Keyblade of Darkness", but whose keyblade it was originally and why it mirrors Sora's key are a complete mystery to me.

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    Okay, time to explain this. ;)

    From the bits you know one is actually false:
    Ventus' heart residing inside Sora's has nothing to do with Sora's ability to wield a Keyblade. Ven's heart inside Sora's allows the dual-wielding so when Ven gets his heart finally back Sora (and most likely Roxas as well) will lose the ability to wield two Keyblades.
    Sora's ability to wield a Keyblade comes from his connection to Ventus' heart which was already forged in the Prologue of Birth By Sleep when Sora's heart was just born and helped Ven when his heart was about to perish after Xehanort shattered it.
    If Ven's heart is actually inside Sora's or not doesn't make a difference in terms of Sora's ability to wield, only his connection with Ven does.

    - No, Way to the Dawn is not Earthshaker. Earthshaker is Terra's Keyblade and Terra's only. The Way to the Dawn is a totally different Keyblade.

    - Kingdom Key is also neither Earthshaker nor Wayward Wind, it's also it's own Keyblade, actually the one originally meant for Riku.
    As Tetsuya Nomura repeatedly pointed out, there are as many Keyblades as there are qualified hearts. There isn't a set number of Keyblades that get given away. Eraqus and Xehanort also still had their own Keyblades despite having choosen apprentices.
    The Keyblade inheritance ceremony does not involve granting someone a Keyblade, the ceremony makes the heart of the person in question qualified to wield a Keyblade by passing the power (aka the ability, not the weapon itself) to wield a Keyblade.

    - Where new Keyblades actually come from is a mystery up to now, but it is highly probable that it has to do with the heart of the person in question. If an awakening (a dive into your own heart) is actually a prerequisite or not can't be confirmed for sure since even Sora gained the Keyblade not after an awakening but after he touched Riku's light and the Keyblade meant for him changed its mind and hopped over to Sora.

    - That was confirmed by Nomura. Persons who had the inheritance ceremony can use other people's keyblades, as seen with Aqua and Eraqus' blade or Riku with Roxas' Oblivion. They aren't however as effective with it as if it were their own.

    - It is implied that Keyblades have a sort of mind of their own (or a certain set of directives they adhere to).

    - Of course a Keyblade Master can do it more than once, as you said it was already shown with Eraqus. Since the ceremony doesn't give away the actual Keyblade (which would be ridiculous and unlogical anyways since the Master's heart doesn't suddenly become unworthy of the Keyblade that choose him/her so it has to be passed to another person) there is no problem at all.

    - That's correct, Mickey was trained since early days by Yen Sid and therefore his ceremony came from the Sorcerer while Ventus was found as a child by Xehanort on one of his travels and seeing the potential of to boy's heart Xehanort decided to make him his apprentice, performing the ceremony with the kid, most likely just like Terra did with Riku.

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    Default Re: Questions about Keyblades

    Quote Originally Posted by SatisfyingSigh View Post
    Cool, thanks for the reply. But I just thought of something, could keyblades maybe be forged of the heart? Like individually? it would explain how Riku's kind of just materialized out of his own sword.

    I don't suppose that it could come from JUST the heart, but maybe with the right catalysts, the heart is where each keyblade actually comes from for each individual wielder. Maybe?
    Hm, I'm not completely sure. They never really did explain why Riku's Soul Eater just morphed into a Keyblade :P Just that it happened haha. I mean I guess his heart was finally worthy of a Keyblade, but instead of taking Sora's he just a different one? That's what I assumed.

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    Fantastic! Thanks for the info Sephiroth812, I'm really excited to see when Nomura reveals where keyblades come from and why they act the way they do.

    I still don't quite understand the whole Kingdom Key D stuff though. But You've helped me understand a lot, thanks! :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sora2016 View Post
    Hm, I'm not completely sure. They never really did explain why Riku's Soul Eater just morphed into a Keyblade :P Just that it happened haha. I mean I guess his heart was finally worthy of a Keyblade, but instead of taking Sora's he just a different one? That's what I assumed.
    Yeah, I mean, they really don't go into where the keyblades come from in any of the games so far (except DDD, which I haven't played, so I don't know), but each wielder's heart being some component to the creation of a keyblade would make a lot of sense.

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    Default Re: Questions about Keyblades

    Quote Originally Posted by SatisfyingSigh View Post
    Fantastic! Thanks for the info Sephiroth812, I'm really excited to see when Nomura reveals where keyblades come from and why they act the way they do.

    I still don't quite understand the whole Kingdom Key D stuff though. But You've helped me understand a lot, thanks! :D
    No problem. :D

    The Kingdom Key D mirrors Sora's Kingdom Key because it is the dark counterpart to it. It is implied that every Keyblade, meaning i.e. Ven's Wayward Wind, Riku's Way to the Dawn or also Xehanort's Keyblade all have a dark counterpart inside the Realm of Darkness.

    The Keyblades of the Realm of Darkness are in fact completely identical in abilities and power to the ones of the Realm of Light, they only difference being from where they originate.

    EDIT:
    Oh yeah, since you're new it can be forgiven, but in the future it'll be better that you edit your post if you want to say more and no one other has posted yet.
    Double-posting isn't really necessary and as far as I remember also against the Forum rules, lol.

 

 

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