Which characters need more focus in the future?

[StMRyEire]

Honestly, I'd like to the original forms of the Organization members who weren't apprentices of Ansem or Isa and Lea. I'm sure one of them will be part of Xehanort's XIII, preferably Luxord. He was pretty awesome.

[Hillboy]

How would that have been sexist?

The two girls take over the orginazation = girls are evil and you shouldn't trust them.
I don't know, that's just why it was switched

Should have been a girl...

He WAS supposed to be a girl. However, Nomura realized that it would mean that the traitors to the Organization would both be the only female members, which would have bad implications.
XienZo 18:28, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

[Dorayaki]

They changed him to a guy because if he was a girl then it would've been the only two girls in the organization that wanted to take over and it would've been sexist

Overally, I might think girls don't have good roles in the series. Even though some princesses were weak in their own Disney stories (recent Tiana and Rapunzel are brave ones), SE's works in FF and DQ also show many female protagonists.

In this topic, some heroines including Kairi or Daisy don't have enough appearances, and we only have several female partners in each chapter (Ariel, Mulan etc). Only Aqua and Xion were the stressed female protagonists or players in this series, but both of them aren't present characters.

[Horizon's Knight]

Demyx- He is an intriguing character that seems to get along with Axel. He has a connection to him as well. There are hints dropped in the manga and the novel including 358/2days that they have history. Being water you think they would expose a lot more of Demyx with either rivals or friends with Axel since he is fire. In other genres anyone who possessed the power of fire and water often got along or were against each other. This would be a perfect dymanite for the two that needs some proof outside the back scenes from books and the hinted 358/2days games. I can see that easily happening in the future games. They also needs to give us Demyx's actual name. If Demyx was an exceptional fighter like Axel/Lea I could see the two of them bucking heads.

Axel/Lea- only because they need to expand on his character with characters he does not associate with in the games. This including the organization people either as a back story or somebodies it doesn't matter to me. But I would like to see him have some screen time with Demyx. As fire and water are never boring. When he became Lea he somehow knew the names of the other apprentices and even set out to find the other survivng members. He needs somebody to spar with that has no connection to Sora. I would like to see him come out Roxas's shadow.

I'd like to see those as a duo as well, but I'm not sure about Lea "coming out of Roxas' shadow." KH3D kind of shows that Lea will still be willing involved with Roxas, whether as Axel or not.

Although HPO would still be good friends for Roxas, I'm not sure if Square will use HPO like that again. Thus, if we take away Axel/Lea from Roxas' life, and Square also forgets about the potential friendship that Roxas could have with HPO, Roxas might not end up having anyone left. After all, they dropped the RG gang completely.

It seems possible that Square might take Xion out of the equation in favor of making her find her own path for the same reason if they plan to do so for Axel/Lea. If that also happens with the writers forgetting HPO, Roxas would have no one left. Just in case that happens, let's at least have Lea be friends with Roxas, even if it doesn't end up being to the same extent as Axel had with Roxas.

Still, I would like to see more interaction between Axel/Lea and Demyx/Demyx's Somebody. You've got a great point there.

[rac7d]

I would liek to see the consequences the founding memeber of the organization face. As well as the restoratin commitee in some kind of interaction with them. I need to know if there is some kind of animostiy or somthing for there past actions

[flurryflames]

I'd like to see those as a duo as well, but I'm not sure about Lea "coming out of Roxas' shadow." KH3D kind of shows that Lea will still be willing involved with Roxas, whether as Axel or not.

Although HPO would still be good friends for Roxas, I'm not sure if Square will use HPO like that again. Thus, if we take away Axel/Lea from Roxas' life, and Square also forgets about the potential friendship that Roxas could have with HPO, Roxas might not end up having anyone left. After all, they dropped the RG gang completely.

It seems possible that Square might take Xion out of the equation in favor of making her find her own path for the same reason if they plan to do so for Axel/Lea. If that also happens with the writers forgetting HPO, Roxas would have no one left. Just in case that happens, let's at least have Lea be friends with Roxas, even if it doesn't end up being to the same extent as Axel had with Roxas.

Still, I would like to see more interaction between Axel/Lea and Demyx/Demyx's Somebody. You've got a great point there.

I am not sure. Didn't Roxas accept his existance within Sora though? If that is true then Roxas no longer exists as a person. I can also see Lea connecting with Isa again. They were best friends one time. I wonder how that fell apart? Could see him either saving him from the organization. Now with HPO coming back I don't see them being forgotten because they in fact were in Twilight Town which seems to be a important part in the games and just because the place wasn't in KH 3D doesn't mean it won't be in future games. Roxas could hang out with them.

Yeah just hoping that they give Axel/Lea and Demyx/somebody interaction. Even if Demyx is either a pawn to Xeohanort or is his person. I can see Axel/Lea saving him if he is in trouble. It seems to leave it where Lea will face the new organization because of his saving Sora from them. This makes him a target where he might have to deal with consquences for his actions in Xenmas, and Xigbar's/Briag mind and probably Saix's/Isa as well.

[Ruran]

I'd like to see those as a duo as well, but I'm not sure about Lea "coming out of Roxas' shadow." KH3D kind of shows that Lea will still be willing involved with Roxas, whether as Axel or not.

Although HPO would still be good friends for Roxas, I'm not sure if Square will use HPO like that again. Thus, if we take away Axel/Lea from Roxas' life, and Square also forgets about the potential friendship that Roxas could have with HPO, Roxas might not end up having anyone left. After all, they dropped the RG gang completely.

It seems possible that Square might take Xion out of the equation in favor of making her find her own path for the same reason if they plan to do so for Axel/Lea. If that also happens with the writers forgetting HPO, Roxas would have no one left. Just in case that happens, let's at least have Lea be friends with Roxas, even if it doesn't end up being to the same extent as Axel had with Roxas.

Still, I would like to see more interaction between Axel/Lea and Demyx/Demyx's Somebody. You've got a great point there.

'Cept Roxas was never friends with HPO.

I am not sure. Didn't Roxas accept his existance within Sora though? If that is true then Roxas no longer exists as a person. I can also see Lea connecting with Isa again. They were best friends one time. I wonder how that fell apart? Could see him either saving him from the organization. Now with HPO coming back I don't see them being forgotten because they in fact were in Twilight Town which seems to be a important part in the games and just because the place wasn't in KH 3D doesn't mean it won't be in future games. Roxas could hang out with them.

Yeah just hoping that they give Axel/Lea and Demyx/somebody interaction. Even if Demyx is either a pawn to Xeohanort or is his person. I can see Axel/Lea saving him if he is in trouble. It seems to leave it where Lea will face the new organization because of his saving Sora from them. This makes him a target where he might have to deal with consquences for his actions in Xenmas, and Xigbar's/Briag mind and probably Saix's/Isa as well.

Roxas is still his own person, he's just his own person existing inside of Sora.

It would be nice if they eventually expand on Isa's and Lea's back story. There isn't a lot known about them but one can't really help but wonder what had happened to them since they had an interest in the RG castle and even got kicked out. We never found out what they wanted. Though we know how their relationship feel apart. They were still friends up until Days but then Axel started to prioritize Roxas and Xion.

[flurryflames]

'Cept Roxas was never friends with HPO.



Roxas is still his own person, he's just his own person existing inside of Sora.

It would be nice if they eventually expand on Isa's and Lea's back story. There isn't a lot known about them but one can't really help but wonder what had happened to them since they had an interest in the RG castle and even got kicked out. We never found out what they wanted. Though we know how their relationship feel apart. They were still friends up until Days but then Axel started to prioritize Roxas and Xion.

In a way he was friends with Hayner, Olette and Pence even though he didn't know them. He still wanted to share that connection with them. While in Sora in KH 2 he even shed a tear because he didn't think he would see them again.

Yeah it would be nice if they expand on their back story. With Isa now being part of the Xeohanort army it may complicate things and force Lea to make a choice. This could give a deeper part on their troubled relationship which can either they break or make.

[Ruran]

In a way he was friends with Hayner, Olette and Pence even though he didn't know them. He still wanted to share that connection with them. While in Sora in KH 2 he even shed a tear because he didn't think he would see them again.

Yeah it would be nice if they expand on their back story. With Isa now being part of the Xeohanort army it may complicate things and force Lea to make a choice. This could give a deeper part on their troubled relationship which can either they break or make.

I...don't think that really counts. You can't be friends with someone you don't know exists. That was part of Roxas's tragedy in KH2, that HPO were never really his friends. I think Roxas shedding a tear, via Sora, was him realizing that he really had nothing to do with them and would never get to know HPO on top of possibly never seeing them again.

I wonder how they would handle that in the future. BbS set it up as if Lea and Isa had big planes involving the castle but that hasn't been touched on any more. I hope they expand on this stuff more and what caused Isa to change so much before they get into any dilemmas with Isa being a part of Xehanort and any ultimatums that Lea might have to make if not it would feel dry other wise.

[bladewarrior13]

One thing I would like to say before I say who should be improved is I'm seeing a lot of characters that aren't all that important in the first place. I mean I have been seeing Daisy and Minnie repeatedly. What purpose do they serve? They are protecting the castle. Not much else to do with them to be honest. The other Disney characters that don't know of other worlds (and even some of the ones that do) aren't really all that important.
The only Disney characters that are important are Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Yensid, Jiminy (ehh), Pete, and Maleificient. Chip and Dale aren't that important to be honest other than being fillers for the Gummi Ship/Garage/Hanger. Pluto I do wish had a few more appearances, but he doesn't serve much of a purpose (although I would like to know how he has been getting around). Minnie and Daisy I think might have a little more importance placed on them in KH3 because I think there are gonna be a couple of big battles (kinda like the Battle of 1000 Heartless) and Disney Castle/Town will be one of places where this happens.
The Radiant Garden Crew do need a little bit more development, but at the same time what else can they really do. Leon seems to be a little more chipper in KH2, I guess that counts. Cid finally has a voice. Cloud and Sephiroth have disappeared. Yuffie is always super chipper. I hate Aerith and always will. Tifa seems ok actually. She is happy, but also cares for Cloud and is sad to see him, but knows he will be ok and believes in him. Merlin is another Disney character so I'm not sure how much development he will get. The Gullwings are filler. And Stitch was random.
Terra and Ven I thought had pretty good development. I can't say the same for Aqua.
Sora and definitely Kairi need more development. Riku is going strong. I thought Roxas got a lot of deveolpment in Days. Same with Axel. Xion character right now is supposed to be forgotten so I don't really have a problem with her. Namine was good in CoM (not great), but after that she seems like and afterthought.
The characters that SE needs to pay attention to are Sora, Riku, Kairi, Terra, Aqua, Ven, Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Yensid, Lea, Roxas, Xion, Namine, Ansem the Wise, and Jiminy. I don't really hold it against them because there are so many characters that are important. Three of them are inside Sora, Namine is inside Kairi, Aqua, Ansem, and Terra are MIA (mainly Terra, we know Aqua and Ansem are in the Realm of Darkness, but still they aren't in contact with the main characters).

[rac7d]

I was wondering would people be upset if when we started Kh3 if Axel and Kairi were both master after completing training off screen

[Dorayaki]

One thing I would like to say before I say who should be improved is I'm seeing a lot of characters that aren't all that important in the first place. I mean I have been seeing Daisy and Minnie repeatedly. What purpose do they serve? They are protecting the castle. Not much else to do with them to be honest. The other Disney characters that don't know of other worlds (and even some of the ones that do) aren't really all that important.
The only Disney characters that are important are Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Yensid, Jiminy (ehh), Pete, and Maleificient. Chip and Dale aren't that important to be honest other than being fillers for the Gummi Ship/Garage/Hanger.

The reason is that the two princesses are both recurring characters who know what's going on and the original representives of Disney franchise. In KH series, we follow on Sora's story and all the Mickey members are secondary characters, so I don't think only Goofy and Donald can be stressed since the plot didn't intend to make the two own their part of the story.

And in your meanings, it's differet for those who are lack of "further interpretation" and those lack of "actual appearances" while you seem to stress on the former. I think both are kinds of focus, but the latter is a bit more important in reality.

[Ruran]

I was wondering would people be upset if when we started Kh3 if Axel and Kairi were both master after completing training off screen

It would probably take months, if not years for Lea (not Axel) and Kairi so unless they have another game or something between 3D and KH3, having them start off as Masters would be rather annoying tbh. Especially with Kairi. One of the biggest gripes with her character is that they keep using the excuse of "time" for her development. It would be much more fulfilling for her character development to watch her grow as a Keyblade wielder rather skipping ahead in time and saying: "Whelp, she's a Keyblade Master now, CARE!"

[rac7d]

It would probably take months, if not years for Lea (not Axel) and Kairi so unless they have another game or something between 3D and KH3, having them start off as Masters would be rather annoying tbh. Especially with Kairi. One of the biggest gripes with her character is that they keep using the excuse of "time" for her development. It would be much more fulfilling for her character development to watch her grow as a Keyblade wielder rather skipping ahead in time and saying: "Whelp, she's a Keyblade Master now, CARE!"

I would kill for a game with her as a playable focus but I doubt that it would ever happen. I woulnd't put it past them to just put Kairi and axel though a rigourous 6 months training(KH3 :6 Months Later) and then sora comes back and there masters. I mean sora and riku only had there for about a year, much less time then TAV who have been studying for 5+ years. Honestly its really unfair that they can even come close to them but, y'know its how it goes.

[Ruran]

I would kill for a game with her as a playable focus but I doubt that it would ever happen. I woulnd't put it past them to just put Kairi and axel though a rigourous 6 months training(KH3 :6 Months Later) and then sora comes back and there masters. I mean sora and riku only had there for about a year, much less time then TAV who have been studying for 5+ years. Honestly its really unfair that they can even come close to them but, y'know its how it goes.

If they have a game with Kairi as a playable protagonist I imagine it would be after the Xehanort Saga. Unless something happens to her there should be more opportunities in the future.

I wouldn't put them past that either tbh. After I heard about the "time pocket" thing they used to train Lea I think that's what they're going to use to "cheat" Kairi to a competent fighting level within a few weeks or even a few days. Yen Sid seemed reluctant to give Sora and Riku the MoM, he just gave it to them because they're in such a state of emergency. Otherwise He wouldn't have even bothered with it. Really, if MX wasn't such a threat SRK probably would have continued living on DI peacefully. Sora and Riku have at least a decade of competitive play fighting to make up for it.

And it's Lea love, not Axel.