KHI makes a KH game! Discussion #5: Gameplay and Battle System Design

[king_mickey rule]

KMR- Do you think you could add another spoiler tab for specifically boss battles on the OP and separate it by world? I feel like the one under "Summary" will become too cluttered with more and more boss battles.

No, I can't.
























Just kidding, I'll get to it right away! I hope the site allows me to update the OP though, I've been experiencing some problems with that lately.

EDIT: Updated the entire OP, it's not that cluttered anymore. If any of you still have suggestions to make the OP better, just say the word!

I also removed the homeworld stories from the final world list in the OP because they're not really useful for this thread anyways.

If you are wondering what TBD is (you should find it all over the Boss Battles list), it's because bosses for that particular world either haven't been discussed properly or I just don't remember anymore what has been decided. So be sure to check out that list so I can update it with more stuff. Thanks!

Ok, back to discussing!

[Darkrider S]

@Darkrider: he means that its not about how strong you are from lvl ups or whatever, but how strong you are compared to your enemies.

And if you guys are going to discuss boss battles, does that mean we agree to go with my idea about heart points for now? And we still have a long way to go before dr. facilier. If we should be discussing any boss right now, it should be the jabberwock.

Ahhhh, I understand now. Alright then can you or someone else please give me a link to all the bosses in this game? only one i really know about is the final boss Lucius :L. or summarise them
EDIT: Nevermind. Found it in the OP ^^

[Legendscarlet]

I have a few questions?

Who is jabberwhock and what is his world?

What is the comic thing I read about somewhere?

Who will be the secret boss/es?
-Already read about Orpheus
-Alread read about that guy with lots of HP bars yet it will die in 1 hit
-Mimicry will appear in the comic?
-What happened to Kefka?

[BondofWater]

1. Jabberwock is the dragon in Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland. A toon version of him will appear as the boss in Wonderland.

Also the guy who will die in 1 hit will be Prince John of Robin Hood. And that's all I can answer.

[Darkrider S]

1. Jabberwock is the dragon in Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland. A toon version of him will appear as the boss in Wonderland.

Ohhhh ! Now I remember himm, One of the best parts of the movie ^_^. My thought on What we could have him do:
- Spin attack with his tail.
- Bite attack where it lunges its head at
- Sends a gust of razor sharp Wind with it's wingss
- heavy stomps on the ground with its 2 front legs ( or all 4) that deals a considerable amount of damage.

Thoughts ?

[Legendscarlet]

and also after the stomp some rocks can be relased (minimal damage) or run in a straight line


I saw some Dark Souls Gameplay and watched a cheap attack from the dargon king dunno the rest of its name
-Jump/Fly for a moment and then try to fall over the player.

BTW, armoured alice looked awesome in the movie, she could be a badass party member for the battle.

[king_mickey rule]

Updated the OP with some bosses (no description of how they would fight, just their names).

I have a few questions?

What is the comic thing I read about somewhere?

Who will be the secret boss/es?
-Mimicry will appear in the comic?
-What happened to Kefka?

I don't really remember which secret bosses have been discussed already but I remember Orpheus and Kefka. Also Mimicry is supposed to be one of the secret bosses but that one should be discussed at the end of development imo since it should hint at a sequel.

Also the comic deals with a possible sequel. It's supposed to be something you can unlock in the game. It tells the story of young Lucius and Orpheus in detail. However, that's also something that needs to be discussed at the end.

First we need to make sure we can complete this game, then we can move on to something that hints at a sequel.

BTW, armoured alice looked awesome in the movie, she could be a badass party member for the battle.

I'm afraid that's not gonna happen. I don't think she'll have the armor in our game (I always thought she would have the oversized clothes but to be honest, Alice her appearance hasn't really been discussed in the character thread yet other than Cassidy's drawing). Besides, she gets the vorpal sword only at the end of the Wonderland story so she won't be able to help in a fight.

[Legendscarlet]

Are we having any party members besides fab four?

[Darkrider S]

and also after the stomp some rocks can be relased (minimal damage) or run in a straight line


I saw some Dark Souls Gameplay and watched a cheap attack from the dargon king dunno the rest of its name
-Jump/Fly for a moment and then try to fall over the player.

BTW, armoured alice looked awesome in the movie, she could be a badass party member for the battle.

I like the addition to the stomp :D (y), LOOOL, reading that attack from the dragon king makes me laugh =)). Fall over the player? does that mean he basically belly flops them from above?

Updated the OP with some bosses (no description of how they would fight, just their names).






I'm afraid that's not gonna happen. I don't think she'll have the armor in our game (I always thought she would have the oversized clothes but to be honest, Alice her appearance hasn't really been discussed in the character thread yet other than Cassidy's drawing). Besides, she gets the vorpal sword only at the end of the Wonderland story so she won't be able to help in a fight.

Thanks for the update (: and as forAlice not being helpful in a fight. Couldn't she like have her (cant remember what it was called) Wild dog/horse/some sort of mammal fight for her ? like she'd be commanding it and everything. Or we could use the Alice from that videogame "Nightmare wonderland" with her 2 butcher knives as weapons ^^

[Legendscarlet]

Or we could use the Alice from that videogame "Nightmare wonderland" with her 2 butcher knives as weapons ^^

I think that is somewhat away from the disney character Nomura uses in KH
She would look awesome and all that but that would be out of place, what do you think everybody else?

[king_mickey rule]

as forAlice not being helpful in a fight. Couldn't she like have her (cant remember what it was called) Wild dog/horse/some sort of mammal fight for her ? like she'd be commanding it and everything. Or we could use the Alice from that videogame "Nightmare wonderland" with her 2 butcher knives as weapons ^^

I hope you're being sarcastic there :D

Disney characters with butcher knives as a weapon is just.. wrong.

Also, the videogame you mention isn't really from either Square-Enix or Disney (if I'm not mistaken) so I'm afraid it can't be used anyways.

I don't really remember what has been decided in terms of party members, are we using them or not? I wanna know 'cause that's one of the things I wanna add to the OP too.

[Darkrider S]

I think that is somewhat away from the disney character Nomura uses in KH
She would look awesome and all that but that would be out of place, what do you think everybody else?

Sorry, I forgot we have to keep things 12 in this game x__x. forget the thought. What do you think of the option before that though?

I hope you're being sarcastic there :D

Disney characters with butcher knives as a weapon is just.. wrong.

Also, the videogame you mention isn't really from either Square-Enix or Disney (if I'm not mistaken) so I'm afraid it can't be used anyways.

I don't really remember what has been decided in terms of party members, are we using them or not? I wanna know 'cause that's one of the things I wanna add to the OP too.

Hahaah, didn't realize we'd be using only SE and Disney :P. Though what of the other option? where alice used bayard the bloodhound? (Found the name ! :D)

[Legendscarlet]

If Darkrider add knives then I want to add proper death to KH universe (Seems like watching Another and Mirai Nikki is not good for my health) ...........just kiding.
Welp, in FF7 Bareth originaly was supposed to die but because someone said something like "the tough guy diying is so common" another guy joked about killing aerith, and SE had to listen (¬¬#)

[Darkrider S]

If Darkrider add knives then I want to add proper death to KH universe (Seems like watching Another and Mirai Nikki is not good for my health) ...........just kiding.
Welp, in FF7 Bareth originaly was supposed to die but because someone said something like "the tough guy diying is so common" another guy joked about killing aerith, and SE had to listen (¬¬#)

Lmaaaao =)). :O Are you serious about the bareth thing ? :( :(. Though it was on ps1 graphics. that was the most dramatic death in gaming history :(.

[quiteMAD]

-What happened to Kefka?

Kefka's still going to serve as our Sephiroth, right?

Disney characters with butcher knives as a weapon is just.. wrong.

How are knives any worse than swords? Pretty much every other FF character you fight uses one.