KHI makes a KH game! Discussion #1: Story, Narrative and Themes

[DarkRiku-12]

And Prince John tried to be in it but got rejected, lol. At least, I think so. We're still going with that, right? Cause I think it's hilarious.

[king_mickey rule]

Sooo the discussion is gonna heavy in the character thread and I've come up with a few ideas to add to the story to make it more fitting (possible making Lucius look more like a good guy before he reveals his plan).

The four complete their first mission and Lucius introduces himself. He tells them about The Horned King, how he is planning to plunge every world into Darkness using the Heartless and that they are the only ones who can stop him. They have to seal the Keyholes in every world to prevent evil from destroying the worlds.

He also explains that the bridges hold a secret power. When evil is too powerful, someone can sacfrice himself to destroy the forces of evil once and for all. He says that when that time comes, he'll be the one to sacrifice himself for the greater good.

Now, I underlined the thing I wanna talk about. I think it's best to not reveal that early in the game. We want Lucius to be this mysterious character. So I suggest that he just says that when evil gets too powerful he has a plan to stop evil. That's it. He won't tell more about it, he expects the four to trust him on that. The player will have to trust Lucius too, so the player will be able to understand the characters better.

Why is this change so important you say? Well obviously, I'm gonna explain that:

@ MAD and Riku's Artist: Yeah they were. It's just that both of you guys were inactive at the time. I was posting some pics for possible Linnea and Brand tier 2's and 3's when we all realized that if we just kept adding stuff to the outfits, then they would get WAY too complicated. So we decided on their homeworld clothes (which I guess could be considered a tier 1), the clothes that Lucius gives them (their 'adventure' clothes, aka tier 2) and then their armor, which they recieve when they become masters, right before going to Prydian. Basically, we don't need to make stuff too complicated or it will just look... bad. I hope that cleared it up for you goys. :)

Again, I underlined the part that caught my eye. They become masters right before they go to Prydian. However, becoming a Keyblade Master should give the Keyblade Wielder who's becoming a master more information that he didn't know before (like Aqua in BBS). Otherwise, the title 'Master' wouldn't really mean a thing. So I suggest this is also the moment where Lucius reveals that he's gonna use the power of the Bridges to stop evil once and for all. He also tells them that he can't do it by himself and that he needed the four to become stronger so they could help him.

Another thing he tells them is that the possibility exists that he dies, however, they have to try this. He says that he didn't want to tell them all this because in the beginning, they wouldn't understand it. Now that they're experienced, they know how big the threat is that they're facing. This is the information they gain because they became Keyblade Masters. This also means that all that has happened previous in the game was actually their Mark of Mastery exam.

See where I'm going? So in short:

- The majority of the game is basically the Mark of Mastery exam for the four characters, however this will only be revealed at the end
- The four don't know that Lucius that he's planning on sacrificing himself to destory evil by using the power of the Bridges, this will be revealed at the end when they become Keyblade Masters

Because of all this, the relevance of them becoming Masters is way bigger and the player will have to learn to trust Lucius more. When the four become Masters and Lucius reveals that he was planning on sacrificing himself all this time, the player will suddenly gain more sympathy for Lucius. This in turn will make the impact later (when Lucius reveals his true intentions) even bigger.

Thoughts? :)

[DarkRiku-12]

^ I like it. It pretty much fixes most of the complaints that people had from thread 2. And I also noticed that throughout most of the game (aka: their mark of mastery) they kinda figure out what's going on, but they're still in the dark, and once they become masters, they pretty much figure everything out and beat all of the bad guys. It's kinda symbolic, really.

[king_mickey rule]

And I also noticed that throughout most of the game (aka: their mark of mastery) they kinda figure out what's going on, but they're still in the dark, and once they become masters, they pretty much figure everything out and beat all of the bad guys. It's kinda symbolic, really.

Well what'ya know, haven't thought about it that way. It really fits doesn't it?

I really like it too (thanks for giving me the idea btw, your post I quoted before gave me this idea). It adds yet another element tfrom the original series but with a slight twist.

[DarkRiku-12]

Why thank you, my mousy friend! :D

[Arkrend]

Umm... KMR, that's already been decided. It's just that your summary was worded a little oddly.

We already decided that Lucius' plan to summon Kingdom Hearts would be a surprised in the last level right before Prydain.

[king_mickey rule]

Umm... KMR, that's already been decided. It's just that your summary was worded a little oddly.

We already decided that Lucius' plan to summon Kingdom Hearts would be a surprised in the last level right before Prydain.

...No it's not :p

Lucius only tells the four that he's gonna use the power of the bridges to destroy evil. He does not use the word 'Kingdom Hearts' even once.

Only when the four return to Legacy City after Prydian, they will see the heart shaped moon above Lucius his tower and when they get there, Lucius is 'back from the dead' and will tell them about Kingdom Hearts and his true plans.

This is why I wrote my summary from the player's point of view because then the events are in the same order that the player will witness them.

In my summary, he says that he's ready to sacrifice himself on the moment he introduces himself to the four. That's what I wanna change. I'd rather have him telling the four he has a plan when evil gets too powerful but he wouldn't really explain it in detail. He just asks them to trust him and help him.

[Arkrend]

In my summary, he says that he's ready to sacrifice himself on the moment he introduces himself to the four. That's what I wanna change. I'd rather have him telling the four he has a plan when evil gets too powerful but he wouldn't really explain it in detail. He just asks them to trust him and help him.

Exactly. It was only in your summary. That's what I meant by it being worded oddly. The only place where it was said that Lucius would tell the four he was planning on sacrificing himself in the beginning is in your summary.

[king_mickey rule]

Exactly. It was only in your summary. That's what I meant by it being worded oddly. The only place where it was said that Lucius would tell the four he was planning on sacrificing himself in the beginning is in your summary.

That's not me wording something oddly, that's me making a mistake :p. That's why I keep asking to check the summary if there are any mistakes in it. I'll correct it now.

[Arkrend]

That's not me wording something oddly, that's me making a mistake. That's why I keep asking to check the summary if there are any mistakes in it. I'll correct it now.

I thought you just wrote the line in the wrong place by mistake. Like you were editing it, and left in a line in the beginning that was supposed to be in the last paragraph.

Seemed like a typo.

[king_mickey rule]

So I changed it to what I said above. Didn't add the Mark of Mastery stuff though. If you guys need it or wanna check it out, it's here.

Anyways, you were gonna rewrite the summary right Arkrend? If it gets decided whether or not we use the Mark of Mastery stuff I mentioned above, would you add it? Thanks! :)

[king_mickey rule]

Happy birthday KHI game project! :3

We've been working hard this for a year now so I wanna say a big thank you to everyone who has been a part of this!

Edit: didn't even notice I double posted lol, sorry guys xD