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Old November 22nd, 2009, 06:44 PM   #1
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Since Days came out I’ve seen a lot of discussion over how the Organization members rank in terms of power. Obviously Xemnas ranks the highest, but I don’t think the rest of the order is as clear-cut as people would believe. In almost all of the ranking topics I’ve seen, Marluxia ranks far lower than I would expect him to. After playing Re: COM, I feel like he’s deserving of a spot in the top four. But when it comes to Xemnas and Marluxia I feel like there’s a discrepancy over how much power they actually have.

After Sora beats Xemnas at the Memory Skyscraper, Xemnas absorbs power from Kingdom Hearts. Therefore, each of Xemnas’ subsequent forms are using the power of Kingdom Hearts, which means that each of those forms aren’t within his normal range of ability. So is Xemnas’ performance at the Memory Skyscraper the true extent of his power? Is his final form also within his power or is that due to Kingdom Hearts too?

In Marluxia’s case I was under the impression that all three of his forms come from his own power, but I’ve seen some people say that he had somehow borrowed power from Castle Oblivion. I don’t remember that being said in game or at any other official source, so I was hoping someone could clarify that for me.

In no way am I trying to say that Marluxia is as powerful or more powerful than Xemnas just because he has three forms. My point is that without the power of Kingdom Hearts, Xemnas isn’t nearly as strong as he appears. Marluxia on the other hand has shown much more interesting powers and abilities from what seemingly appears to be his own ability.

Getting back to the power ranking of the Organization, I’d like to hear how you all would rank them. I’d like as much supporting evidence as possible and citing of interviews or other relevant sources. I remember seeing someone mention that Nomura said in an interview that Roxas ranked second and Xaldin ranked third, but since I haven’t seen that interview, I can’t say for sure.

Discussion of Days is welcomed, but I’m reluctant to include Xion in the ranking with the other thirteen.
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 06:58 PM   #2
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I. Xemnas
II. Roxas
III. Xaldin
IV. Lexaeus
V. Marluxia
VI. Saix
VII. Xigbar
VIII. Larxene
IX. Axel
X. Zexion
XI. Vexen
XII. Luxord
XIII. Xion
XIV. Demyx


they ranked them in order that they joined the organization
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 07:01 PM   #3
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You're missing two of them and you didn't provide an explanation...
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 07:11 PM   #4
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I. Roxas
II. Xemnas
III. Xaldin
IV. Lexaeus
V. Marluxia
VI. Saix
VII. Xigbar
VIII. Larxene
XI. Axel
XII. Zexion
XIII. Xion
XIV. Demyx
lol u r wrong. xemnas is the strongest. nomura said it.

then is roxas
saix
xaldin and idk who is from there but nomura said xion told riku to stop him from going to xemnas because roxas wasnt powerful enuf so therefore xemnas is stronger than him
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 07:11 PM   #5
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there i fixed it:embarassed: hehe....
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 07:46 PM   #6
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It is my thoughts that they rank like this, or close to this.

1 Xemnas
2 Roxas
3 Marluxia
4 Lexaeus
5 Xaldin
6 Saix
7 Xigbar
8 Axel
9 Larxene
10 Vexen
11 Zexion
12 Luxord
13 Demyx

Thats just roughly how I see it. I don't have much basis for that other than boss fights and the way they talk to each other.
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 07:55 PM   #7
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My thoughts from playing Days

I. Lexaeus
2. Saix
3. Xaldin
4. Luxord
5. Xemnas
6. Roxas/Xion
7. Marluxia
8. Axel
9. Zexion
10. Vexen
11. Larxene
12. Xigbar
13. Demyx
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 08:00 PM   #8
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Im pretty sure it goes like this (BTW this is in the wrong section)

Xemnas (stated to be the strongest)
Roxas
Marluxia (yes he was a best though he was scared shit of Xemnas)
Lexeaus
Axel, Xaldin, and Xigbar (they are all pretty equal [and yes axel cause he was like the Org.'s assasin and could hold his own against most of the Org. if not all)
Sa'ix
Zexion
Larxene
Demyx
Luxord
Vexen
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 08:06 PM   #9
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ppl...read nomuras interviews

xemnas
roxas
xaldin
lexaeus
saix
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 08:09 PM   #10
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Can you post a link to the specific interview?
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 08:58 PM   #11
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I.Xemnas
II.Roxas
III.Marluxia
IV.Saix
V.Xaldin
VI.Lexaus
VII.Xigbar
VIII.Axel
IX.Zexion
X.Luxord
XI.Larxene
XII.Demyx
XIII.Vexen
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 08:59 PM   #12
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I. Xemnas
II. Roxas
III. Xaldin
IV. Lexaeus
V. Marluxia
VI. Saix
VII. Xigbar
VIII. Larxene
IX. Axel
X. Zexion
XI. Vexen
XII. Luxord
XIII. Xion
XIV. Demyx


they ranked them in order that they joined the organization
Wouldn't Xion and Roxas be the same? I mean they are basically the same......
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Old November 22nd, 2009, 08:59 PM   #13
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Can you post a link to the specific interview?
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–Who are the strongest ranking Organization XIII?

Nomura: Xemnas is the strongest, and Roxas is considerably strong you include his potential. Xaldin and Lexaeus are higher after that. However, when their strength is configured by preference, it’s different than how it appears in the story.
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I.Xemnas
II.Roxas
III.Marluxia
IV.Saix
V.Xaldin
VI.Lexaus
VII.Xigbar
VIII.Axel
IX.Zexion
X.Luxord
XI.Larxene
XII.Demyx
XIII.Vexen
I agree with asir1234567 on this one.
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