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Old November 5th, 2009, 04:00 AM   #31
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Im not bashing, just bring up evidence that is guesses are incorrect, furthermore helping him make more accurate guesses. If i had to guess, i would say its some sort of dark reincarnation of Ven.
How can Vanitas be a reincarnation of Ven if Ven isn't dead yet? :<

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Still how would he look and act like people of the future?
This makes no sense. If you're going to talk like that, you should be saying "Why does Roxas look like someone from the past" rather than "Why does Ventus look like someone from the future" >_>; Just to say, Ventus came first, so Roxas looks like Ventus, NOT vice versa.

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Vanitas's face will be revealed at the end of the game, and we know it's gonna be a shocker. It doesn't have to be any of the three (they are all unlikely anyway). It seems more like assumptions based on Vanitas and Ven's "rivalry" and their similar names.
Eh, he'll be revealed about halfway through. I can't see them waiting until the end of the game to show him off. :\

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Well you guys have made good points its still likley probally someone we've seen in a previous game other whys not just show his face if its a new character.
My thoughts exactly. They've shown us Terra, Aqua, Erauqs, Master Xehanort; all original faces. Ventus was shown because he's the completion of the trio of Terra+Aqua. If Vanitas was a brand new character design, we'd have seen his face already. I'm about 90% sure he looks nearly identical to an already-existing character. :\ Hell, maybe his face is just that of the Guardian Xehanort's Heartless uses in KH1.

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I think the reason Vanita's fighting stance and dark armor are simalar to riku's is because this Master Xehanort guy seems to possibly be an ancestor of Xehanort and since Xehanort's Heartless gave Riku the dark armor and in the KH2 BBS secret ending Vanitas seems to 'separate' from Master Xehanort...
DING! DING!
Can anyone see a connection?
...ancestor...? Xehanort is ~30 when working under Ansem, less than a year after BBS. Master Xehanort is that guy's ancestor? Eh, extremely doubtful. The only thing that connects them is their Name and his clothes in the secret BBS ending. :\

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How does stop him from looking like Riku. (hello does the name roxas mean anything to you)
I don't think it does, really, but bringing Roxas into this is dumb. Riku is alive at the same time as Vanitas... Roxas doesn't become formed for another ~10 years... There is no comparison to be made between those two (Riku and Roxas). >>; Using one as the basis for the other's argument is invalid.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 05:16 AM   #32
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Thats not possible, Square Enix has already released footage Terra watching Sora and Riku sword fighting with wooden swords and they're like 4 years old.
He's saying if they look similar. Kind of like how Terra~Xehanort.
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He's probably Xehanort. Or connected somehow.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 10:00 AM   #34
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Riku had the suit before XH took him over.
Dude, I'm pretty sure Riku didn't have that suit until XH took over his body remember? Unless you mean something else?

Also, imagine if it's Xion? I mean, like her somebody, not her nobody.

It's probably somebody totally new. Though I wouldn't be suprised if it was somebody familiar. Somebody looks like Somebody these days lol.



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Old November 5th, 2009, 02:57 PM   #35
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Dude, I'm pretty sure Riku didn't have that suit until XH took over his body remember? Unless you mean something else?

Also, imagine if it's Xion? I mean, like her somebody, not her nobody.

It's probably somebody totally new. Though I wouldn't be suprised if it was somebody familiar. Somebody looks like Somebody these days lol.



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Old November 5th, 2009, 03:45 PM   #36
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can't we just keep this short and sweet?


1- Vanitas face still covered = bring up more hype; a face that resembles a character we know?

2- he isnt riku, ven, or sora. that's just completely idiotic. he CAN be an unverse. a heartless, and nobody had human body structures. why not an unverse? he seems to be deeply connected into ven

3- he's not freaking xehanort...well alone he isn't. too young to be xehanort.
Vanitas = teenage years like Riku
Xehanort = '30s
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Old November 5th, 2009, 04:16 PM   #37
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Dude, I'm pretty sure Riku didn't have that suit until XH took over his body remember? Unless you mean something else?
No, he had the suit before then.

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, imagine if it's Xion? I mean, like her somebody, not her nobody.
You haven't played Days have you...

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It's probably somebody totally new. Though I wouldn't be suprised if it was somebody familiar. Somebody looks like Somebody these days lol.
the only characters Nomura said were new, were TAV, and their Master
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i really wouldnt pass nomu off for doing something like making van into a sora or riku clone (or vice versa XD)
nomu is like that sometimes (and yet, we love him for it X3)


he did it for ven/roxas, kairi/namine/xion and AnsemTW/AnsemSoD/AnsemAppr./Xemnas/terra/M.Ansem/rikunort/ect. whos to say he wont do it again?


(looks at ansem list)
dang, that's a lot of ansems
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Old November 5th, 2009, 04:28 PM   #39
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i really wouldnt pass nomu off for doing something like making van into a sora or riku clone (or vice versa XD)
nomu is like that sometimes (and yet, we love him for it X3)


he did it for ven/roxas, kairi/namine/xion and AnsemTW/AnsemSoD/AnsemAppr./Xemnas/terra/M.Ansem/rikunort/ect. whos to say he wont do it again?


(looks at ansem list)
dang, that's a lot of ansems
you added some that didn't need to be added,
AnsemTW is Master Ansem, and we know nothing of Terra's relationship to Xehanort at this point
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you added some that didn't need to be added,
AnsemTW is Master Ansem, and we know nothing of Terra's relationship to Xehanort at this point
err......

oops- typo alert! Master XEHANORT not ansem! (sorries!)

and- yeah i know i posted more ansems than needed. i was emphisising the fact that there are way too many ansem for one series to bare...right?

but anyways-

worst case scenario is that van will be a game version of nomu or someone else on the kh team- like they did in twewy. The did it with the creator of FF (who's name has slipped my mind) with Erauqs i can see him doing it again X3 (or not XD)
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My thoughts exactly. They've shown us Terra, Aqua, Erauqs, Master Xehanort; all original faces. Ventus was shown because he's the completion of the trio of Terra+Aqua. If Vanitas was a brand new character design, we'd have seen his face already. I'm about 90% sure he looks nearly identical to an already-existing character. :\ Hell, maybe his face is just that of the Guardian Xehanort's Heartless uses in KH1.
Did you forget about Xion? Her face was shown a while before Days came out, and who does she look like? Kairi. She looks like another character, yet was shown already.

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worst case scenario is that van will be a game version of nomu or someone else on the kh team- like they did in twewy.
What character was this?
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Old November 5th, 2009, 05:46 PM   #42
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Because unlike Xion looking like Kairi, Vanitas's face probably has actual meaning to it. Xion's face was meant to throw us off, and save for attempting to base SoKai and still failing, served little to no plot meaning save than buying Nomura some time with the pre-Days theories.
I'd imagine Vanitas's face would have meaning, especially if they still keep it hidden this close to the release date.
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Because it's this thing called a "mystery".
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Because it's this thing called a "mystery".
plus the fact that Nomura hasn't considered him/it a new character, adds more to the mystery.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 05:53 PM   #45
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I personally wouldn't be surprised if he shares the same face with none of the characters from the past games. Him being a Terra-clone or something (yes, I know, he's most likely a Ven clone if anything going by figure, but we'd have worse curveballs thrown at us. go play Days if you don't know what I mean.) would merit enough having his face covered.

Here's me claiming dibs on a theory saying the reason it seems like he has chest muscles is because he's an Aqua clone and the outfit just flattened it, making him look built.
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