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Old November 5th, 2009, 01:15 AM   #16
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Vanitas is a clone of Ven.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 01:23 AM   #17
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Vanitas is a clone of Ven.
Proff?

Vanitas has a diffrent body structure and diffrent stance.
Also what is the possebility of that three people looks exactly alike? Roxas, Ven and Vanitas? don't think so
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Old November 5th, 2009, 01:28 AM   #18
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I'm thinking Vanitas is a combination of Roxas's negative memories and the darkness from his heart...The darkness would give the memories a humanoid body covered in a darkness suit.
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Though just like how Xion didn't look exactly like Sora until later on,
Vanitas might not look exactly like Ven until he gets enough memories, which is why I think he wears a helmet.

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I'm thinking Vanitas is a combination of Roxas's negative memories and the darkness from his heart...
If Vanitas existed at the same time as Ven, how would that work?

Vanitas already wears a dark suit like Riku, shares a battle stance, and sounds almost exactly the same. Isn't that enough?

Vanitas's face will be revealed at the end of the game, and we know it's gonna be a shocker. It doesn't have to be any of the three (they are all unlikely anyway). It seems more like assumptions based on Vanitas and Ven's "rivalry" and their similar names.
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Well you guys have made good points its still likley probally someone we've seen in a previous game other whys not just show his face if its a new character.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 03:00 AM   #21
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I think the reason Vanita's fighting stance and dark armor are simalar to riku's is because this Master Xehanort guy seems to possibly be an ancestor of Xehanort and since Xehanort's Heartless gave Riku the dark armor and in the KH2 BBS secret ending Vanitas seems to 'separate' from Master Xehanort...
DING! DING!
Can anyone see a connection?
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Old November 5th, 2009, 03:05 AM   #22
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If Vanitas existed at the same time as Ven, how would that work?
Ven's losing his memories for whatever reasons; his memories and darkness produced by them have to go somewhere.


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Vanitas already wears a dark suit like Riku, shares a battle stance, and sounds almost exactly the same. Isn't that enough?
Riku's a kid at this time. Maybe there's a connection between the two, but a connection between Vanitas and Ven is already confirmed.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 03:13 AM   #23
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Ven's losing his memories for whatever reasons; his memories and darkness produced by them have to go somewhere.

Intresting........


Riku's a kid at this time. Maybe there's a connection between the two, but a connection between Vanitas and Ven is already confirmed.
How does stop him from looking like Riku. (hello does the name roxas mean anything to you)
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Old November 5th, 2009, 03:14 AM   #24
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I think you skipped one

4. Young Xehanort
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Old November 5th, 2009, 03:16 AM   #25
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You know it has been rationally theorized that Van looks like Riku, or "what Riku's Nobody would look like". If Ven can look like somebody 'from the future', why can't Van? Maybe Ven heart or whatever ends up going to Sora, and Van's to Riku, continuing their rivalry and influences the two characters when they get older?
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I think you skipped one

4. Young Xehanort
Naw we saw him shortly after BBs he was to tall.

(Unless he had an insane growth spurt like Riku)
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Old November 5th, 2009, 03:19 AM   #27
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How does stop him from looking like Riku. (hello does the name roxas mean anything to you)
Never said it stopped him...but memories apparently determine appearance, and Vanitas probably can't look like KH1 Riku if the latter hadn't developed those memories yet.

Roxas looks like Ven probably through Ven's memories.

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You know it has been rationally theorized that Van looks like Riku, or "what Riku's Nobody would look like". If Ven can look like somebody 'from the future', why can't Van? Maybe Ven heart or whatever ends up going to Sora, and Van's to Riku, continuing their rivalry and influences the two characters when they get older?
Difference is is that Riku already exists, and he seems to carry out his appearance throughout the series.
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Old November 5th, 2009, 03:30 AM   #28
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Naw we saw him shortly after BBs he was to tall.

(Unless he had an insane growth spurt like Riku)
Was that shortly after Birth by Sleep...or was that 10 years later? hmm I might need to get my timeline right....

If THAT scene was shortly after BBS...then my theory is good as gone.
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Never said it stopped him...but memories apparently determine appearance, and Vanitas probably can't look like KH1 Riku if the latter hadn't developed those memories yet.

Roxas looks like Ven probably through Ven's memories.

Difference is is that Riku already exists, and he seems to carry out his appearance throughout the series.
I am going to spare explaining stuff from memory, and instead I dug up this.

http://forums.khinsider.com/future-k...eath-mask.html
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Old November 5th, 2009, 03:44 AM   #30
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i mean if you think about it riku gave into darkness and ansem(SoD) was controlling his body,,and vanitas has some sort of the same sotry..
Riku had the suit before XH took him over.

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Still how would he look and act like people of the future?
The same way Ven looks like Roxas?

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REALLY stupid Idea, no offense, but thanks for some in put! maybe i'll post a theory soon, MAYBE.
Really stupid post. =|

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Was that shortly after Birth by Sleep...or was that 10 years later? hmm I might need to get my timeline right....

If THAT scene was shortly after BBS...then my theory is good as gone.
The flashback scene happened a few months to several months after BBS, before Ansem was banished.
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