Roxas and the Org

[Lenexa]

Maybe because those 6 apprentices know the connection between Ven and Roxas?

[Awesome Ansem]

Originally Posted by Audo

How the hell would you even know that? They don't show you EVERYTHING that goes on in a game. There's tons of opportunities for a discussion to have been had and just not shown.

Plus the fact that

Spoilers

Xigbar and Xemnas see "Ven" in Xion, and Xigbar if makes a comment about Ven in regards to that would pretty much prove that wrong

yeah, I very well could be wrong. I have limited knowledge of Days. Are you sure they see Ven and not Roxas?

Originally Posted by Borys

When Xigbar said "That's right! He used to gave me the same exact look" to Sora in Hollow Bastion he was reffering to Ven, not to Roxas, right? :P

I'm pretty sure it was Roxas, because Nomura hadn't planned out the BBS characters yet.

From an interview
"Back when I was making [the KH2 secret ending movie], I only had their settings but now I've even drawn their faces to give myself a clearer image of them." -Nomura

during development of KH2 he didn't have those characters developed yet. I'm even guessing he wrote KH2's script long before he made the secret movie.

[KHFanatic4565]

Originally Posted by Awesome Ansem

yeah, I very well could be wrong. I have limited knowledge of Days. Are you sure they see Ven and not Roxas?



I'm pretty sure it was Roxas, because Nomura hadn't planned out the BBS characters yet.

From an interview
"Back when I was making [the KH2 secret ending movie], I only had their settings but now I've even drawn their faces to give myself a clearer image of them." -Nomura

during development of KH2 he didn't have those characters developed yet. I'm even guessing he wrote KH2's script long before he made the secret movie.

That does not mean it can't be made so now.

[Awesome Ansem]

so you're saying that even though it's very very likely xigbar was talking about roxas, the meaning behind the line is changed because a character that looks like roxas was created?

[KHFanatic4565]

Considering what happened in Days, that's nearly it. It still refers to Roxas, but considering Xigbar's lines, it can also be Ven.

[Audo]

Originally Posted by Awesome Ansem

yeah, I very well could be wrong. I have limited knowledge of Days. Are you sure they see Ven and not Roxas?

Positive.

I'm pretty sure it was Roxas, because Nomura hadn't planned out the BBS characters yet.

From an interview
"Back when I was making [the KH2 secret ending movie], I only had their settings but now I've even drawn their faces to give myself a clearer image of them." -Nomura

during development of KH2 he didn't have those characters developed yet.

Please. I'm sure he had it in mind. Him saying that he has drawn their faces could easily just be him referring to the other two, for if he were to say anything more than that, then he could have spoiled Ven.

In KH2, Xigbar makes a comment to Sora about the other Keyblade Wielders being stronger/more of a hero than he is. That lines shows that Nomura had already thought about TAV and the like. It's just that he didn't flesh that out in more detail until BBS actually rolled around.

It's like how when they were finishing the scenario for KH2, they knew that a girl Roxas' age was part of the reason he left. But they didnt flesh out that story completely until Days came around. He has ideas in his head and he puts in hint/clues to it, and then when the next game comes, he fleshes it out completely. I seriously wouldn't doubt if he had some idea of the "past of the Keyblade Wielder" since KH1.

I'm even guessing he wrote KH2's script long before he made the secret movie.

Nit-picky, but he didn't write the script. That was Nojima. Nomura wrote the base story.

[KHFanatic4565]

Plus it has been done before with Ansem SoD and how he was not the real Xehanort.