Theory about EVERYTHING!!!

[codycameron09]

O.K. I think I figured it out. Sorry if many of you knew this, but here it goes.

We have all seen the video of Master Xehanort telling Terra, "I grow tired of waiting for you. Give into darkness."

Could Master Xehanort want Terra to give into darkness so he could take over his body? After all, MX is one old dude. He might want a new body to proceed with his quest of Kingdom Hearts. But because Terra sacrifices himself to save his friends, the light inside blinds MX, leaving Xehanort's hair white and his memories gone. Once he works on the Heartless, his visions become clear again: He must find Kingdom Hearts! And so, he regains all of his memories and brings forth the heartless. When he loses his heart, he becomes Ansem and also the nobody, Xemnas!

Even though these multiple versions are mainly the mind of MX, there is still a sliver of Terra left, for Xemnas is seen talking to Aqua's armor and also being known to seek out the "Room of Awakening" where the "other friend" is. (Watch YouTube - Terra is Definitely Xehanort! for info)

The Room of Awakening is the place where Sora woke up after he lost his memories. Why is he the other friend? Well, 10 years ago...

Because of his friends fall, Ven asks Aqua to erase him. She places his memories into Sora's, the best friend of Riku (the next keyblade master). 10 years later, Riku succumbs to darkness, leaving the keyblade to Sora. On his quest with Donald and Goofy, he loses his heart when he must free Kairi's, creating Roxas. Roxas looks like Ven because his memories were within Sora. In 358/2 Days, Roxas falls into a deep sleep for a few weeks, when Xemnas observes his slumber, he sighs and says, "So, sleep has taken you once again." He says this because Ven was sleeping inside Sora for so long...

However, when Roxas and Sora become one again; Ven's memories went inside Sora once more. Maybe this will be resolved in the 3rd game (whenever that may be). Perhaps the "real" Xehanort (aka Terra) might meet up with Sora and be reminded of Ven, which could help unlock the memories within Xehanort. After an inner battle, Terra finally separates himself from Master Xehanort and he and his friends, Ven and Aqua, could be together again. But because MX is free (and could have Kingdom Hearts), it's up to Sora and the gang to put an end to his reign of terror once and for all. Wow, a final fight with Sora and Master Xehanort... EPIC!


Well, that's what I've gotten so far. Hope it's correct and hope you think it's worthy of suggesting.

[OmniChaos]

Originally Posted by codycameron09

We have all seen the video of Master Xehanort telling Terra, "I grow tired of waiting for you. Give into darkness."

...we have? I don't recall MX ever saying that. =v
I do recall, however, MX saying "Cross the wall between light and darkness to my origin. I'm tired of waiting for you, Terra."

And so, he regains all of his memories and brings forth the heartless.

If he had regained all of his memories, I think the storyline would have been really, really different.
While Xemnas seems to have little 'flashes' of memories, I think he is far from having all of his memories.

Even though these multiple versions are mainly the mind of MX, there is still a sliver of Terra left, for Xemnas is seen talking to Aqua's armor and also being known to seek out the "Room of Awakening" where the "other friend" is.

Xigbar suggested that the CoW might be where Xemnas' other "friend" is, that doesn't mean it is. Also, even if it is, I'm sure Xemnas seeking out the CoW would have to do with the chamber itself and not a pile of empty armor.

The Room of Awakening is the place where Sora woke up after he lost his memories.

No, it isn't. We have not seen the CoW yet.

Why is he the other friend? Well, 10 years ago...

You do realize that the scene where Xigbar suggested the other "friend" might be in the CoA took place before Roxas was born and thus before CoM.

10 years later, Riku succumbs to darkness, leaving the keyblade to Sora.

Riku didn't leave his keyblade, Sora, more or less, stole it.

Not only does he free Kairi's heart, but Ven's as well.

Funny how we didn't see said heart and the Nobody that would have been produced because of said heart.

That is why Roxas looks like Ven!

Then what about the missing Nobody?

[Axel of Ice]

I think its a pretty good theory... it kind like how ansem takes over riku's body in Kh1. The only thing that doesn't makes sense is how you say he looses his memories and his hair turns white. First of all... wtf about the hair. Also Namine has the power to restore memories so Xemnas could just get his memories back. otherwise... i like it

[codycameron09]

I didn't mean Riku literally left the keyblade to Sora.

Also, you do have a very good point about the who Ven's heart thing inside Sora. Frankly, I just put that in because that's what a lot of people have been saying on here and what they say does make a lot of sense. But that is true, There would be another nobody.

But what if it wasn't really Ven's heart, but Ven's memories or essence? Xigbar sees Xion as Ven because Sora had a memory of Ven and Braig actually met Ven.


Oh well, theories are just theories. For this; we'll never know until the came comes out I suppose.

Thanks for pointing the heart thing out.

[codycameron09]

Originally Posted by Axel of Ice

I think its a pretty good theory... it kind like how ansem takes over riku's body in Kh1. The only thing that doesn't makes sense is how you say he looses his memories and his hair turns white. First of all... wtf about the hair. Also Namine has the power to restore memories so Xemnas could just get his memories back. otherwise... i like it

Thanks. The hair... well, how else would you explain it? LOL

Maybe it's because MX's hair was originally silver?

[Audo]

OMNI! You know what this thread title reminds me of? OUR OWN THEORY ON EVERYTHING!
We should work on that some more.

[codycameron09]

Originally Posted by Audo

OMNI! You know what this thread title reminds me of? OUR OWN THEORY ON EVERYTHING!
We should work on that some more.

Did you guys have a theory like this one?

[Axel of Ice]

Maybe it's because MX's hair was originally silver?

Master Xehanorts beard does look white in the trailers

[Xigbar]

I always think MX and the Xehanort we know are actually the same person but has left us wondering about their confusing connections. You guys do know that JPN voice actor of MX, Chikao Otsuka is the real life father of JPN voice actor of Xehanort, Akio Otsuka, implying another connection between the two Xehanorts.

[OmniChaos]

Originally Posted by codycameron09

I didn't mean Riku literally left the keyblade to Sora.

Then you should have said what you meant. =v

But what if it wasn't really Ven's heart, but Ven's memories or essence?

I'm strongly leaning toward memories.

Originally Posted by Audo

OMNI! You know what this thread title reminds me of? OUR OWN THEORY ON EVERYTHING!
We should work on that some more.

Yeah, though I don't think the google docs worked out very well...

Originally Posted by codycameron09

Did you guys have a theory like this one?

We were working on one at one point, but it didn't really take off.

[Yuuki]

ooohhhh another cody theory XD

Because of his friends fall, Ven asks Aqua to erase him. She places his memories into Sora's,

why doesnt sora remember something like that? and how is aqua able to remove and add memories to people?

Why is he the other friend? Well, 10 years ago...

what omni said

. Roxas looks like Ven because his memories were within Sora. In 358/2 Days, Roxas falls into a deep sleep for a few weeks, when Xemnas observes his slumber, he sighs and says, "So, sleep has taken you once again." He says this because Ven was sleeping inside Sora for so long...

However, when Roxas and Sora become one again; Ven's memories went inside Sora once more.

if thats true then why arent they able to see vens memories?

[Naximi]

Originally Posted by OmniChaos

Then what about the missing Nobody?

Does there have to be one?

EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't realize he was talking about a heart and not just part of Ven

[funnymanhaha1000]

Originally Posted by codycameron09

O.K. I think I figured it out. Sorry if many of you knew this, but here it goes.

We have all seen the video of Master Xehanort telling Terra, "I grow tired of waiting for you. Give into darkness."

Could Master Xehanort want Terra to give into darkness so he could take over his body? After all, MX is one old dude. He might want a new body to proceed with his quest of Kingdom Hearts. But because Terra sacrifices himself to save his friends, the light inside blinds MX, leaving Xehanort's hair white and his memories gone. Once he works on the Heartless, his visions become clear again: He must find Kingdom Hearts! And so, he regains all of his memories and brings forth the heartless. When he loses his heart, he becomes Ansem and also the nobody, Xemnas!

Even though these multiple versions are mainly the mind of MX, there is still a sliver of Terra left, for Xemnas is seen talking to Aqua's armor and also being known to seek out the "Room of Awakening" where the "other friend" is. (Watch YouTube - Terra is Definitely Xehanort! for info)

ok so up to this point i was like ok wow this doesnt seem like a half bad theory. could make sense, seeing as how much interaction we've seen between master xehanort and terra in the japanese trailers. after that im kind of eh. i think Xemnas wanted to find the room of awakening so bad so he could remember (assuming he really was terra before losing his memory an becoming xehanort) how to use the keyblade. so he could make kingdom hearts and get his heart back.

the connection kinda makes sense right?

[Sora1915]

Originally Posted by codycameron09

O.K. I think I figured it out. Sorry if many of you knew this, but here it goes.

We have all seen the video of Master Xehanort telling Terra, "I grow tired of waiting for you. Give into darkness."

Could Master Xehanort want Terra to give into darkness so he could take over his body? After all, MX is one old dude. He might want a new body to proceed with his quest of Kingdom Hearts. But because Terra sacrifices himself to save his friends, the light inside blinds MX, leaving Xehanort's hair white and his memories gone. Once he works on the Heartless, his visions become clear again: He must find Kingdom Hearts! And so, he regains all of his memories and brings forth the heartless. When he loses his heart, he becomes Ansem and also the nobody, Xemnas!

Even though these multiple versions are mainly the mind of MX, there is still a sliver of Terra left, for Xemnas is seen talking to Aqua's armor and also being known to seek out the "Room of Awakening" where the "other friend" is. (Watch YouTube - Terra is Definitely Xehanort! for info)

The Room of Awakening is the place where Sora woke up after he lost his memories. Why is he the other friend? Well, 10 years ago...

Because of his friends fall, Ven asks Aqua to erase him. She places his memories into Sora's, the best friend of Riku (the next keyblade master). 10 years later, Riku succumbs to darkness, leaving the keyblade to Sora. On his quest with Donald and Goofy, he loses his heart when he must free Kairi's, creating Roxas. Roxas looks like Ven because his memories were within Sora. In 358/2 Days, Roxas falls into a deep sleep for a few weeks, when Xemnas observes his slumber, he sighs and says, "So, sleep has taken you once again." He says this because Ven was sleeping inside Sora for so long...

However, when Roxas and Sora become one again; Ven's memories went inside Sora once more. Maybe this will be resolved in the 3rd game (whenever that may be). Perhaps the "real" Xehanort (aka Terra) might meet up with Sora and be reminded of Ven, which could help unlock the memories within Xehanort. After an inner battle, Terra finally separates himself from Master Xehanort and he and his friends, Ven and Aqua, could be together again. But because MX is free (and could have Kingdom Hearts), it's up to Sora and the gang to put an end to his reign of terror once and for all. Wow, a final fight with Sora and Master Xehanort... EPIC!


Well, that's what I've gotten so far. Hope it's correct and hope you think it's worthy of suggesting.

I think he just simply meant he is tired of waiting for him to get into bed with him because he already seems to be a freaking pedophile >>; I mean seriously that creepy twiddling thing he does with his fingers is creepy as hell >>;

But in all seriosuness I have no idea.....it's probably something messed up and creepy just liek you said though....if he deos take Terra's body I am screaming "OROCHIMARU! O.o" Seriously.....

[codycameron09]

Originally Posted by Sora1915

I think he just simply meant he is tired of waiting for him to get into bed with him because he already seems to be a freaking pedophile >>; I mean seriously that creepy twiddling thing he does with his fingers is creepy as hell >>;

But in all seriosuness I have no idea.....it's probably something messed up and creepy just liek you said though....if he deos take Terra's body I am screaming "OROCHIMARU! O.o" Seriously.....

That made me laugh. :-)

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