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Old October 25th, 2009, 08:33 AM   #1
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Sora is the original keyblade-weilder. Yes I'm starting another one of those. Some people may believe that Riku is the original wielder and that the reason he didn't get th KK was because he was being swallowed up by the darkness. Well I say BS the keyblade doesn't care about the amount of darkness in your heart it only care's about the strength of ur heart.(If MX and Vanitas is any example) In other words riku being swallowed upby darkness doesn't have anything to do with it, so was Sora at the time.

And also lets not forget the whole "The fate of all occurs not by chance." it means that destiny is predetermined which means Sora was always supposed to get the KK and riku was always destined to fall into darkness.

So what do u guys think. (Puts flame shield to 100% output)
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Old October 25th, 2009, 08:38 AM   #2
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i dont think so because nomura said the keyblade was actually for riku, the reason sora got the keyblade was because his heart was stronger than riku's, if riku wouldnt have gone to darkness then he would of had the KK >.>

but that doesnt mean sora wasnt going to be one.....
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Well the keyblade chooses it's wielder. It was meant for Sora but went to Riku because of the darkness.
I'm not sure what was meant to happen.
Maybe Sora becoming a keyblade wielder.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 08:51 AM   #4
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Sora is the original keyblade-weilder. Yes I'm starting another one of those. Some people may believe that Riku is the original wielder and that the reason he didn't get th KK was because he was being swallowed up by the darkness. Well I say BS the keyblade doesn't care about the amount of darkness in your heart it only care's about the strength of ur heart.(If MX and Vanitas is any example) In other words riku being swallowed upby darkness doesn't have anything to do with it, so was Sora at the time.
Ummm, Riku is the true Keyblade Master. Nomura has said so, it's in Jiminy's Journal, etc. I think it has to do with Riku's heart not being strong enough at the moment, and thus Sora, who had the stronger heart, got it.

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And also lets not forget the whole "The fate of all occurs not by chance." it means that destiny is predetermined which means Sora was always supposed to get the KK and riku was always destined to fall into darkness.
Possibly, but who knows. Maybe Sora really was meant to get it, or maybe this time fate didn't know shit.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 08:52 AM   #5
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Riku is confirmed officially as the original wielder of the Kingdom Key.

Insta-fail thread.

Sora ending up getting the Keyblade does not make him the original wielder. It makes him the eventual wielder.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 08:57 AM   #6
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close thread now please. really theres no need for this to go on.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 09:06 AM   #7
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Ok so if we r talking about destiny here in kh being predetermined than the fact that sora got the KK doesn't mean that riku wasn't supose to have it. It just means riku was always going to fall to the darkness/ have a weaker heart than sora and thus have the key pass on to sora... He was always ment to have it but never would...

The basis of ur theory is busted...
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Old October 25th, 2009, 09:30 AM   #8
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wat! you just basically restated wat i just said its not busted if anything you proved me right.


And also if it was predetermined that sora would get the key thus " He was always ment to have it but never would...' doesn't make a lick of sense.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 09:39 AM   #9
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wat! you just basically restated wat i just said its not busted if anything you proved me right.


And also if it was predetermined that sora would get the key thus " He was always ment to have it but never would...' doesn't make a lick of sense.
No Sora wasn't predestined to be the keyblade wielder..........i mean c'mon what more do you want out of this. Please man, just get it
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Old October 25th, 2009, 09:47 AM   #10
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Oops ok looking at it again I proved ur second part... :P
but I disproved the first part
like I said before riku was the og kb wielder and was always suppose to get the kk but never would because he was also always suppose to fall to darkness

...the first part and the second part are contradictions to each other...
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Or MAYBE what was predetermined was that Sora would always steal the Keyblade.
Doesn't make him the original wielder of it though, because he isn't.
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And, just for the record, Sora didn't only obtain the Keyblade because Riku's heart was weakened because of Darkness. The Darkness that swallows Riku and Sora was Riku's own Darkness within his heart. So at that point, Sora was connected to Riku's heart pretty much, and that's when the Keyblade went to Riku but Sora stole it by accident, so it became his.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 11:27 AM   #13
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i dont think so because nomura said the keyblade was actually for riku, the reason sora got the keyblade was because his heart was stronger than riku's, if riku wouldnt have gone to darkness then he would of had the KK >.>

but that doesnt mean sora wasnt going to be one.....
Riku was originally meant to get The Keyblade. It wasn't about who's heart was stronger. Sora was at the right place at right time. When Sora and Riku were swallowed up by Darkness, Sora was reaching for Riku's hand and touched the light within the darkness which was The Keyblade and he got it. God only knows what would've happened if Riku got the Keyblade, but he preferred Darkness. I guess cause he had no fear, he knew it wouldn't control him.

I believe Riku's Heart is stronger than Sora's though. Look at how deep into the Darkness Riku fell and he still found his way out.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 11:33 AM   #14
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wrong, it has to do with how strong your heart is. the light was sora's (feeling) trying to save riku, that made him get the keyblade, in HB when sora meets riku rikus heart was stronger so he got the keyblade back but when sora meet up with riku again his heart was stronger and got the keyblade.

nomura even said so.... dude you need to play the game again...
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wrong, it has to do with how strong your heart is. the light was sora's (feeling) trying to save riku, that made him get the keyblade, in HB when sora meets riku rikus heart was stronger so he got the keyblade back but when sora meet up with riku again his heart was stronger and got the keyblade.

nomura even said so.... dude you need to play the game again...
In Hollow Bastion, both times, yea it had to deal with how strong their heart were after all they been through. When Riku took the Keyblade, his heart was stronger. When Sora took it back, his heart was stronger.

I meant that on Destiny Islands, that didn't matter. Sora was just there.
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