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Old October 25th, 2009, 08:45 AM   #16
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Yeah, Xemnas just used the power of these hearts in the end of KH2. If he used the real KH, then he probably would've beaten Sora.
He probably would of become a God like he wanted. Or whatever he wants.
What DOES he want anyway?
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Old October 25th, 2009, 08:47 AM   #17
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He probably would of become a God like he wanted. Or whatever he wants.
What DOES he want anyway?
well he wants to become somebody again and have more power for who knows what >.<
maybe we'll know in BBS
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Old October 25th, 2009, 08:49 AM   #18
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well he wants to become somebody again and have more power for who knows what >.<
maybe we'll know in BBS
Power, and a world of his own to rule it with. If not all the worlds at some point.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 08:50 AM   #19
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Power, and a world of his own to rule it with. If not all the worlds at some point.
yeah...that bitch >.>
but he fails XD
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Old October 25th, 2009, 09:01 AM   #20
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i mean, i kh1, it was a giant door, and in kh2 (correct me if im wrong cuz its been a few years since ive played it) it was a giant yellow heart-shaped moon with a blue out-glow. seriously, WTF?
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The giant door in KH1 was not KH. The door was the "Door to Darkness". A door to the dark realm. Within that realm, was Kingdom Hearts.

Also, the heart-shaped moon in KH2 was a fake Kingdom Hearts that the Organization was creating.
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Yeah, the Kingdom Hearts in KH2 wasn't the real Kingdom Hearts.

Nope, I've no idea why or how...
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Right, and this new Kingdom Hearts may be the real one.

Or it could be just something shaped like a heart, but not Kingdom Hearts itself.
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Kh1 = The true Kingdom Hearts (perhaps the same from BBS)

KHII = An artificial copy
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Yeah you guys pretty much summed it up. What I want to know is what purpose the real one has. And also if the one created by the ORG has the same power.
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Yeah and it wasn't even completed yet. I wonder what would happen if it was completed. Does it really have the power to grant Nobodys hearts of their own? man I have so many questions.
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Not even a copy really, just a bunch of Hearts forced together. No sign of an actual container, in that the amassed Hearts contain and are contained by themselves.
you are all wrong!!! how the hell do you all think there a fake kingdom hearts i mean really just stop and thing about it. i dont think such a power like kingdom hearts can be just copied like that. (sorry if it seems like I'im being rude, I'm not trying to be)

But i have been thinking about this a lot! and i think i know why it look different.

Kingdom hearts is the heart of all worlds which we already know. Now look at the world in KH1 where the door to darkness was open:

the world beyond the DTD looked a lot like the world the door appeared in

The same for KH2: the world beyond the DTD looked a LOT like TWTNW

So i think Kingdom hearts always looks like the world in which the DTD appear in.

this makes sense to think that a part of every world is in kingdom hearts.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 09:25 AM   #21
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you are all wrong!!! how the hell do you all think there a fake kingdom hearts i mean really just stop and thing about it. i dont think such a power like kingdom hearts can be just copied like that. (sorry if it seems like I'im being rude, I'm not trying to be)

But i have been thinking about this a lot! and i think i know why it look different.

Kingdom hearts is the heart of all worlds which we already know. Now look at the world in KH1 where the door to darkness was open:

the world beyond the DTD looked a lot like the world the door appeared in

The same for KH2: the world beyond the DTD looked a LOT like TWTNW

So i think Kingdom hearts always looks like the world in which the DTD appear in.

this makes sense to think that a part of every world is in kingdom hearts.
Well, we use the term 'Kingdom Hearts' as a collection of Hearts, not necessarily the omnipotent container of them, so we're still not in the wrong. The 'KH' in KH2 was just a bunch of Hearts forced together, yet it was called 'Kingdom Hearts' by Organization XIII for something like two thirds of a year.

There's nothing to suggest the power of a Kingdom Hearts like the one in KH1 couldn't be copied. I mean, it'd take a lot, but there's nothing to suggest it's impossible.

The last part makes sense, but the inside of the KH1 one was significantly different to the outside world, when comparing TWTNW to the KH2 KH.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 10:53 AM   #22
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Kingdom Hearts in KH1 was the the one opened by the seven PoH's.
Actually, the PoH were used to open "The Final Keyhole" on Hollow Bastion, from which immense darkness poured out. But in KH2 they were said to be used the open the The Door to Darkness. I'm not sure if they're meant to open both, or it was an continuity error on Nomura's part.
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The giant door in KH1 was not KH. The door was the "Door to Darkness". A door to the dark realm. Within that realm, was Kingdom Hearts.

Also, the heart-shaped moon in KH2 was a fake Kingdom Hearts that the Organization was creating.
all this time and i didn't know that the real Kingdom Hearts hasn't been revealed yet.
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Could it be the Kingdom Hearts in BBS is the real one? O_O
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If the kindom hearts atBBS was the real one, why was it summond very easy?
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^Interesting what keyblades can do
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Old October 25th, 2009, 04:49 PM   #27
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Kingdom HEARTS In KH I was a dark moon a black thing in moon shape that was behind the door to darkness =3
the one in KH 2 and 358/2 days is a fake one created by the org
and the one in bbs... Its suposed to be created by the hearts of all the keyblade bearers thats why its blue

and ACTUALLY... If u read some of the reports from 358/2 days... I think xemnas didnt wanted to become whole HE WANTED TO BECOME ONE WITH KINGDOM HEARTS!... hes so sellfish he wasnt giving a heart to the organization he was just using them to become one with kingdom hearts
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hes so sellfish he wasnt giving a heart to the organization he was just using them to become one with kingdom hearts
Wow jerk move Xemnas. But all these doors and big heart moons that aren't real and not seeing the real KH yet is very confusing.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 05:19 PM   #29
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Still a fake kingdom hearts its a fake kingdom hearts.... Besides the one in KH II wasnt complete... and still xemnas was powerful welp at least he was kinda eternal xD and cocky but still no powerful =O anyways I wounder what could happen if he did fused with kingdom hearts.... the secret reports said that kingdom hearts had an intelligence of its own, and that it was rejecting xemnas... maybe thats why sora can talk to kingdom hearts in KH I
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Old October 25th, 2009, 10:20 PM   #30
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Could it be the Kingdom Hearts in BBS is the real one? O_O
Depends on how you define 'real' because in KH1 it was world's Hearts, so surely there are other KHs for different varieties of Hearts?
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