The Mystery KH

[Grass]

-- So the mysteries from previous games will be answered in BbS?
Nomura: Well quite a few will be, but there will also be enough to leave you wondering what will happen next. This game is set the farthest in the past of any other, so it connect to KHI, but the main characters are three that haven’t appeared in the other games. So how their story will end, which will of course be shown in the game, will leave you wondering even more after the game has finished.

-- So is it possible that there will be another game connecting BbS and KH1? And might that be KH3...?
Nomura: Who knows? I already have ideas for the next installment. But since Birth by Sleep isn’t even out yet, I don’t have to think about it until awhile from now. Recently everyone kepts asking me when I’m planning on coming out with KH3. Even though I’m currently busy with Final Fantasy versus XIII, I’m also thinking that it’s almost time to start thinking about it seriously. Though it’s entirely possible that the next game in the series won’t be KH3.

-- So what will it be?
Nomura: I can’t say that quite yet, but it will be more “offical” than a side story. I actually told the producer this recently, and he said “...what?” It’s the mystery KH. (laugh) Of course, I am also thinking about KH3.

Nomura may have already told us what the "mystery KH" is.

For some time now we have assumed the Keyblade War to be that of the struggle between TAV and MX. But-

Master Xehanort: Look around. The Keyblade’s power is governed by the heart of it’s previous master’s until the end. On this ground a Keyblade battle of light and dark unfolded. These are the remnants of the Keyblade war.

The Keyblade War apparently happens before BbS.

To tell the story about the Keyblade War we need the capacity of hi-spec hardware and we need to accumulate all of our knowledge on this hardware. And in telling this story, we will need to tell it in separate episodes, and how specifically to tell it has yet to be figured out.

Nomura has already said that the Keyblade War may need "several episodes." And it looks like Birth by Sleep isn't one of them.

So, the "mystery KH" may not be between BbS and KH1, but rather before BbS (or maybe between BbS and KH1 as well, since it could be multiple "episodes").

Some people have already figured this, but I thought it would be nice to show some solid evidence.

Another interesting thing to note- remember back in the day, before the announcement of BbS, Days, and coded, that Nomura talked about them collectively as a "project"? Well he also talked, you'll recall, as if some aspect of this project may no longer be called "Kingdom Hearts."

Could the "Keyblade War" be that project?
One would not have to think hard about why they'd want to do that.

A spin-off of Kingdom Hearts, set within the same universe, does not necessarily have to use Disney.

Don't get me wrong. I am of the mind that Disney is practically the only thing that makes KH unique from other Square projects (and should be kept this way). But they would see that as a way of continuing the original story (ie milking it) without having such a difficult time of picking out a limited number of Disney films.

The scale of the "Keyblade War" lends credence to the idea- it sounds as though it really was a full scale war. That may mean that there were tons of original characters. And tons of original characters leaves less room for Disney.

[Allister Rose]

tetsuya nomura said it would be more official. Usually those are the games with Sora since kingdom hearts is his story.

A Spin off wont really be that official in the series.

[Grass]

Originally Posted by Allister Rose

tetsuya nomura said it would bm ore official. Usually those are the agmes with Sora since kingdom hearts is his story.

A Spin off wont really be that official in the series.

He said it would be more official than a side story, not a spin off. You're confusing the two.

A spin off can very well fall under that category and can be just as major and official as the original series that spawned it.
If it's a spin off, it would no longer be "Kingdom Hearts," meaning that it wouldn't have to be Sora's story.

[Chrono Mizaki]

Originally Posted by Allister Rose

A Spin off wont really be that official in the series.

Nope, but we may have to treat it as an alternate universe, otherwise it would cause some problems onto the continuity.

I assume when he says episodes, I keep thinking an 'OVA Anime series' or a 'series of movies like Kara no Kyoukai, but with CGI animation being used'. Personally, I would go for the former, using the studio who did the FF7 anime.

Anyway, I would be interested in this new 'project', it could be a breath of fresh air whilst using the elements of KH.

[Allister Rose]

Originally Posted by Grace Assassin

He said it would be more official than a side story, not a spin off. You're confusing the two.

A spin off can very well fall under that category and can be just as major and official as the original series that spawned it.
If it's a spin off, it would no longer be "Kingdom Hearts," meaning that it wouldn't have to be Sora's story.

Spin off is often called sub-series...maybe the keyblade wars will be explained in BBS, we dont know if it will or not. a keyblade war game would be unnecessary even as a spin off but still possible.

[Kitsune_XIII]

Personally, I'd love a game about the "Keyblade War".

[Allister Rose]

i have no opinion towards keyblade wars game. i jsut cannot imagine a game soley on the keyblade wars.

[Grass]

Originally Posted by Allister Rose

Spin off is often called sub-series...maybe the keyblade wars will be explained in BBS, we dont know if it will or not.

No, a spin off CAN be a sub series, but it doesn't have to be.
Start Trek The Next Generation isn't any lesser than the original series.

Originally Posted by Allister Rose

a keyblade war game would be unnecessary even as a spin off but still possible.

Saying it's unnecessary is redundant.
KH3 is unnecessary.

Similarly, any idea we've pitched so far about the mystery KH, such as it taking place between BbS and KH1, could be deemed unnecessary.

[Allister Rose]

Originally Posted by Grace Assassin

No, a spin off CAN be a sub series, but it doesn't have to be.
Start Trek The Next Generation isn't any lesser than the original series.




Saying it's unnecessary is redundant.
KH3 is unnecessary.

Similarly, any idea we've pitched so far about the mystery KH, such as it taking place between BbS and KH1, could be deemed unnecessary.

I agree with Kh3. unless BBS had something to do with kh3, thne both bbs and kh3 would be necessary.

kh1 deemed unnecessary? how? it's the beginning.

anyways, spin off's usually hold no importance in the series, so there's no point having it.

Also i remember the first quote of mystery kh game, but where did you get the quote about keyblade wars?

[Grass]

Originally Posted by Allister Rose

kh1 deemed unnecessary? how? it's the beginning.

I never said that.

If we're talking about games necessary to the series, the only one is KH1.
We didn't have to expand or learn about new mysteries. Even Nomura said that he would have been content with just KH1 and leaving the game open ended.

But that's not the point. Just because something isn't necessary (ie all of the KH games after KH1), doesn't mean it won't (and shouldn't) be made.

Originally Posted by Allister Rose

anyways, spin off's usually hold no importance in the series, so there's no point having it.

Again, not the point.

Doesn't matter if it holds no importance to the main series, the very idea of a spin off is to create a new one (set within the same or similar universe).

Originally Posted by Allister Rose

Also i remember the first quote of mystery kh game, but where did you get the quote about keyblade wars?

Which one?
I got the MX quote from Heartstation's report on TGS.

And I got the "hi spec" quote from Another Report.

[Allister Rose]

Originally Posted by Grace Assassin

Which one?
I got the MX quote from Heartstation's report on TGS.

And I got the "hi spec" quote from Another Report.

the one that says keyblade war will be needed to need all this high spec and everything. I honestly cannot imagine a plot to it.

BBS will most likely explain bits and pieces of the keyblade war within the story. It's high unlikely they would make a game soley on keyblade wars, maybe on how it got started? still thinking about it.

[Lonbilly]

I'm thinking that if it is in fact the "Keyblade Wars" it'll get tied into MX's girlfriend/Kairi's Grandmother's story. They look like they may in fact connect quite well.

[Grass]

Originally Posted by Allister Rose

the one that says keyblade war will be needed to need all this high spec and everything. I honestly cannot imagine a plot to it.

That's like saying you can't imagine a plot to KH3- it could be virtually anything.

Originally Posted by Allister Rose

It's high unlikely they would make a game soley on keyblade wars,

And you're basing this on...?
Let me guess.
The classic. "Intuition."

[Allister Rose]

Originally Posted by lonbilly

I'm thinking that if it is in fact the "Keyblade Wars" it'll get tied into MX's girlfriend/Kairi's Grandmother's story. They look like they may in fact connect quite well.

ughh...MX girlfriend? kairi's grandmother may have a chance in this theory.

EDIT:grace assassin, it's nto intuition. it's opinion.

[Zeagal]

I would like more Keyblade war stuff and have guessed this too. I wonder what disney characters could have been involved in that war that are not around already. I also wonder how much time passed between BBS and the keyblade war. Not sure if I would prefer a few years before or a few hundered.