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Old September 5th, 2009, 07:00 PM   #1
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This has been on my mind for awhile, and it should be elaborated on. The main question in this theory is “What is a Heart made of?” There will be 3 parts (threads) to this theory since it is so long. Formation and Sleep is part 1. The Unversed (not a theory that Unversed are unborn Hearts, because they’re not the “Unbirths” anymore) and Replica’s will be in part 2 (some spoiler boxes, but not enough to have my theory make no sense for those who haven’t played Days). VAT’s, MX’s, DS’s, Xehanort’s, and Roxas’ connections will be in part 3 (final part). Without further ado, let’s get cracking with part 1 this theory. I will post links on other parts of this theory on my threads as they are made.

Part 2: http://forums.khinsider.com/future-k...en-needed.html

This part should come first, before we get to the other stuff. What inspired me to go into this is GA’s “Revelation of the Unbirth” thread. However, I have a different take on the prongs then GA has. It is quite easy to explain how many ingredients a Heart has because there is three prongs on both the Heartless and Nobody symbol. If you don’t believe me, take a look for yourself.

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Now that we know how many things make a Heart, what are those things? The three ingredients are Aura, Existence, and Emotion. I shall explain how all of these come about.

First off is Aura. This is just another way of saying “The Power of the Heart”, and is divided into two categories which are Light & Darkness. There is HoPL, so every Heart has Aura. Plus, there is the fact that Light and Darkness coexist, so I had no choice then to put them in the same category. Next is the Existence, which is the part of the Heart that comes naturally. This can be proved because to Organization need Kingdom Hearts to become whole. Last is the Emotion. Since Emotion is often triggered by curtain events and from the parents, it’s safe to say that Emotion is created by bonds. This also doesn’t have to apply to just parents (shown in part 2 and 3).

Now, how are all of these held together? They are held by Sleep. Credit for the sleep idea goes to Reno/Axel, RelixBBS, Zeagal, and Kitsune_XIII.
For one, “Sleep” is a psychic state when the Heart is inactive and can be messed with easily, so it can reveal or hide the truth. So, how does “Sleep” help create Hearts? Well, the title of the new game is called Birth by Sleep, so that is pretty much self explanatory. The way Sleep creates a Heart is that once two Hearts have strong feelings for each other (mostly with couples having a baby, but not always as explained in parts 2 and 3), the reaction between those two Hearts creates full emotion. While this is happening, Existence and Aura are magnetically drawn to the emotion and get trapped in it, thus forming a Heart. I know that might seem like a long shot, but we have all seen how great emotions can affect the Heart.

If this is true, then what of the most powerful Heart in the universe, Kingdom Hearts? As we all know, Kingdom Heart affects a great amount of Hearts. What if at first, there was only Aura and Existence? Once Light and Darkness started intertwining and the bond between Light and Darkness being close, only to lead to the creation of Kingdom Hearts, which lead to smaller portions of Aura. This would also be why Aura and Existence alone can’t create a Heart, because the bond between Light and Darkness was already made from the beginning of time, and has never let go of the bond.

That is the end of Part 1, stay tune for the other two parts.

Last edited by Horizon's Knight; September 6th, 2009 at 07:59 PM. Reason: adding part 2 link
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Old September 5th, 2009, 07:04 PM   #2
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That actually makes the KH birth of hearts make sense. Can't wait to see pt. 2 though. :)
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The way Sleep creates a Heart is that once two Hearts have strong feelings for each other (mostly with couples having a baby, but not always as explained in parts 2 and 3), the reaction between those two Hearts creates full emotion. While this is happening, Existence and Aura are magnetically drawn to the emotion and get trapped in it, thus forming a Heart. I know that might seem like a long shot, but we have all seen how great emotions can affect the Heart.
i really dont have much to say about this part of the theory as a whole ..cant say i agree or disagree with most of it but im viewing your ideas with an open mind and ill wait for the other parts of your theory before i say anythin about what i think .. i just have one question though ..

in the part of your theory i quoted above (which entails how a heart is created) ..i think the details oh how exactly they are created is just as important as where ..and id like to know where you think this would occur with respect to your theory ..i personally think that all hearts are created within kingdom hearts ..id just like to know if you think this occurs there too or if you think it happens somewhere else, and if so, where - this will help me better analyze your theory
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This is well thought. I don't know how likely it is to happen, but the way being said seems possible. I personally think they won't delves into question as what the Heart is made of in details, but heh, maybe.
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I like where you're going with this, not sure about your theory about how hearts are created but I'll just have to wait for the next 2 parts.
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Old September 5th, 2009, 07:35 PM   #6
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i really dont have much to say about this part of the theory as a whole ..cant say i agree or disagree with most of it but im viewing your ideas with an open mind and ill wait for the other parts of your theory before i say anythin about what i think .. i just have one question though ..

in the part of your theory i quoted above (which entails how a heart is created) ..i think the details oh how exactly they are created is just as important as where ..and id like to know where you think this would occur with respect to your theory ..i personally think that all hearts are created within kingdom hearts ..id just like to know if you think this occurs there too or if you think it happens somewhere else, and if so, where - this will help me better analyze your theory
I do think that Kingdom Hearts has an important part in this process, but it isn't directly created there. Think of it this way. When a Heart is to be made, two people must be near each other and both be in the "State of Sleep". While this happens, the emotions connect to Kingdom Hearts, and then a small part of the Aura and Existence from Kingdom hearts gets drawn and compacted to the emotion. This in turn forms a Full Heart (hint to part 2, might be a different thread).
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Er, "Power of the heart" is something that describes the strength and abilities of the heart, not what makes up a heart. Existence and emotion are what you get when you have a heart in KH, again, not what makes up one. I would be more inclined to say that hearts are comprised more of memories, or identity or a sense of self or something. I doubt as if it's even possible to exactly pinpoint what a heart is made out of in the KH universe.

In the words of Roxas, "a heart isn't something you can see, it's not something you can feel either". Didn't Ansem the Wise's teach us that hearts are unquantifiable, above human comprehension and classification with that whole monologue at the end of KH2?

I don't understand how sleep would hold a heart together. I think it stays together until death, or even after death, with or without sleep. The aura and emotions attraction stuff was confusing and... I didn't get it.

Also, I doubt as if they're going to get into the nitty gritty details on how hearts are born, because that would be a touchy subject, like death. No need to ruffle people's feathers unnecessarily. That and knowing the exact details are probably irrelevant to the story.
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Er, "Power of the heart" is something that describes the strength and abilities of the heart, not what makes up a heart. Existence and emotion are what you get when you have a heart in KH, again, not what makes up a one. I would be more inclined to say that hearts are comprised more of memories, or identity or a sense of self or something. I doubt as if it's even possible to exactly pinpoint what a heart is made out of in the KH univese.

In the words of Roxas, "a heart isn't something you can see, it's not something you can feel either".' Didn't Ansem the Wise's teach us that hearts are unquantifiable, above human comprehension and classification with that whole monologue at the end of KH2?

I don't understand how sleep would hold a heart together. I think it stays together until death, or even after death, with or without sleep. The aura and emotions attraction stuff was confusing and... I didn't get it.

Also, I doubt as if they're going to get into the nitty gritty details on how hearts are born, because that would be a touchy subject, like death, bordering on religious topics and whatnot. No need to ruffle people's feathers unnecissarliy. That and knowing the exact details are probably irrelevent.
The reason why we theorize in the first place is because we don't know about it. Whose to say that they won't bring up the creation of the Heart? That is one mystery of KH that needs to be explored.
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So far i don't have any big complaints...just a few questions that i will space out through out the thread.
Are you saying in order for a heart to be created someone or some people should be in the state of sleep?
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You know, it pretty much makes sense. But I'll see if this is really relevant.
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So far i don't have any big complaints...just a few questions that i will space out through out the thread.
Are you saying in order for a heart to be created someone or some people should be in the state of sleep?
Yes, that is what I'm saying. Expect Part 2 very soon.
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