Xion Concern

[XIII Nobodies]

Thinking about it, it could be true that there is a connection. Here's my kind of theory on it. (Covers head to prepare for bashing).

Aqua's armor, as we know, is in the "Room of Sleep," which is hidden deep below Hollow Bastion. Xion had to have been born around the same time as Roxas. My best guess would be that Aqua's essence remains in her armor. When Sora came to Hollow Bastion, the armor picked up the Keyblade's presence, triggering a sort of memory inside of what essence of Aqua's remained inside of it. However, Xion was not born from this. It had to have happened when Sora used Riku's/Ansem's keyblade to release Kairi's heart, turning Sora into a heartless, and Roxas being born. If Roxas and Ven are the same, then Aqua's essence snsed that Ven had come back, and she wanted to be able to communicate in some way. With what that essence had, Xion was created, taking form of Kairi (whose heart was locked inside of Sora's) with dark blue hair, possibly coming from that essence of Aqua that was left inside that armor.

Keep in mind, this is a theory I have no belief in. But it might generate some ideas on any possibility of Aqua and Xion being connected. I think that Xion's role is limited to Sora's memories, and why Roxas left the Organization.

[KHearts35]

I think about that too. Xion has no connection to aqua or the timeline will be mess-up. Unless the ending of bbs is that aqua's heart is release and goes to kairi like when kairi's heart went to sora in destiny island

[Audo]

Originally Posted by Zeagal

She certainly would have to be for people who have played previous games to be surprised. Otherwise that comment from before would be irrelevant as a character changing appearances as severely as Xion would be surprising to anyone no matter their level of familiarity.

No, she wouldn't. The surprise doesn't have to be necessarily where she comes from, but more so where she ends up and how that plays into the series as a whole.

[xjeezlouisx]

I believe Xion is part of Aqua just like how Roxas looks like Ven

[Zeagal]

XIII Nobodies, you killed it when you brought in Kairi. It would be an okay idea if instead she based her appearance by parasiting off memories of Sora collected in CO through the Room of Awakening. That way it wouldn't conflict as much with what we already know about Xion.

However, I find it hard to believe that it was Roxas and his and Sora's connection with Ven that caused Aqua's supposed essence to stir while Xemnas being a probable connection to Terra who was active in the Room of Sleep triggered nothing of that severity.

Originally Posted by Audo

No, she wouldn't. The surprise doesn't have to be necessarily where she comes from, but more so where she ends up and how that plays into the series as a whole.

Would that not be true then no matter who Xion was?

[XIII Nobodies]

Just random stuff that came out of my head. It happens to everybody.

[Audo]

The thing is, with Xion's identity and what not being a key part of the game, it has to be self-contained.
The mystery surrounding her, how she got there, where she ends up, what it means - all of that has to be explained in-game otherwise the story would fall-through.
And i have huge doubts that they would spoil the end of BBS in some fashion, not to mention but -- how would they even begin to explain that? It would have to be through one of the characters obviously, but so far there have been no instances of characters who would actually know all of the answers to that (besides maybe Mickey, but I have doubts in his importance and role in the game).
I just don't see Xion coming from Aqua being the specific reason for her existence. Sure, maybe she could have some ties in there - some - but i don't think it is going to be on the level of being explicit. And I don't think, whatever reason it may be, that Xion will actually BE Aqua, if it were to go down the road of having ties to her.

[Zeagal]

See then I started thinking about how it could have been a connection through body. Like Xion is a collection of memories in Aqua's body that would be lifeless on it's own and that to me makes sense. Though it would still spoil some things for BBS and be just as confusing as her being a conscious Aqua.

[Audo]

If it was in Aqua's body I don't see why Xion would look like a fourteen year old girl and not a twenty-something like Aqua is.

[Zeagal]

big thing here being "collection of memories" they would alter her appearance much like SoD Xehanort was able to use Riku's body, and this way Xion would technically be a nobody

[Audo]

I'm not so sure memories alone can affect an outward appearance that much.
I mean, if memories are all that a person is, appearance wise, than why would there be any difference in Nobodies and their complete selves? A normal Nobody retains all of their memories, so, according to that, they should look exactly like they used to. But they don't.

[Zeagal]

I imagine it would boil down to the strength of the heart and the nature of the memories involved. Those nobodies who did manage to retain human form look very similar to their old selves, really only using Xemnas and Roxas here, but I imagine the same would hold for the other members.

[Inutaihanyou]

Personally..i feel that it is only natural Xion turn out to be Aqua or something related to her, considering that apparently her body changes in response to sora/roxas, and if we assume that these two do have a connection to ven, it would tie into the tagline of "i can't remember something important", and the line possibly being connected to Sora/Roxas's life as Ven or Xion's life as Aqua. Throwing Kairi into the mix with her intentionally being named, along with Namine wanting to meet Xion as well also throws in a new dimension.

Considering how it was implied that Xion came to be in the secret room where Aqua's armor was found..there seems to be a lot of evidence pointing to this conclusion. How it will tie into what type of existance she's got specifically and how it will tie into the other games is something else entirely (which it was siad that these three will tie into a future KH game, so it would acutally seem to be expected.

[Zeagal]

There's two problems with that though. One her being Xion wouldn't make sense right now, but I agree that there is a lot more evidence for it. The other problem is that technically she wasn't born in the same room. Her armor is in the Room of Sleep and Xion was supposedly born in the Room of Awakening, but that's not soo much of a problem as it clarification issue.

Another thought I had was the possibility of Xion relating to DS in BBS, not being the same, but similar conditions/beings. I don't think it's likely but it would be one hell of a twist.

[Smile]

I really don't get what it's all about. Aqua'd hardly have to become Xion during BBS. With all the possibilities we know of, I find it likely that she wasn't even involved to begin the process until after Xehanort was born. So I really doubt BBS will show us anything conclusive about it.
Maybe about the nature of Memories that would indicate the thing is possible, and maybe, just maybe, if we're lucky (and the theory's true) then during the credit scenes we'll see how Aqua got there. Like, either she's exploring CO, or meeting up with Xehanort or something.

As for Days, they'd hardly have to go into Aqua even existing on that one. The identity issue could really be self contained, with Xion either never being truly properly explained, or just shrugged off as a nameless test subject or something. Implications will arise as to where she truly came from, I'd imagine, but it'd be silly to expect them to tie the two games that closely at this point in time.
I'm not sure even Coded's good enough to have them tie it up together, though with Xion being related to Sora's Memories and Coded being about the Journal and all, it's a likely possibility. I don't really see them being remotely able to even go there truly properly before KH3, though, with Aqua being Xion being kind of a major issue about her entrance in that game, be it as an active force or a retrospective character.

SoD Ansem was pretty much 'self contained' in KH1. Kind of in CoM. Then came KH2. It being retcon aside, the point holds. Just because a concept's introduced in one game hardly means it has to be self contained; it just means it takes supposedly trickier machinations to get it to work.

Call me bias which I probably am, but I really don't see why Xion being related to Aqua, even to the point of being Aqua, would interfere with anything.

TAV reunion in the Org. Is that too much to ask for? Probably.